Comments on: Have We The Holy Trinity?

By: seanmac31

seanmac31 — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:09:17 +0000

An accounting degree is probably the best qualification there is for a GM position in today's NFL. Seriously, I know the media loves to create some sort of friction between so-called “football guys” and non-football guys, but it's silly. There are many GMs who came to the NFL with a background in something else, and in the salary cap era, the most important thing that a GM can do is put a system into place that maximizes the production per dollar up and down the roster. Moneyball is here to stay.

By: Bob Jensen

Bob Jensen — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:23:58 +0000

As a Jet fan who went to his first game at the Polo Grounds in 1960, a loss to the Raiders, I feel like Leon Hess who said 'I'm too old to rebuild, I want to win now'.
Eric Mangini, according to all press reports , was hired by Mike Tannenbaum, the GM in waiting. Mangini and Tannenbaum formed a close friendship with the Parcells Jets where both were minor functionaries.
What exactly qualifies Tannenbaum to be an NFL GM anyway? A degree in accounting, a capologist who never played, coached or scouted at any level of football. Apparently Parcells gave a thumbs up on Tannenbaum and Mangini…. but it should never be forgotten that Parcells also gave Woody Johnson the thumbs up on Terry Bradway and Wellington Mara the thumbs up on Ray Handley.
If this group fails to at least duplicate Herman Edwards record in his first two years, a minimum of an AFC East title, then Tagliabue should intervene and force Woody Johnson to have a 'Bill Parcells' moment and make him hire an experienced, successful, highly qualified NFL executive as President/CEO/GM.
In my opinion, all three AFC East rivals have far better coaching staffs and I don't see much optimism for the coming season.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 08:04:51 +0000

I, for one, don't believe that luck plays a part in football over the long haul…In any one game it might but a team is only as good as it's record. If the Jets took care of business earlier in the season the Lions game (and it was a bad call) woudn't have mattered. Herm was a decent coach who kept the team competitive for most of his tenure until last season. The only knock I had is that he may have lacked the “killer” instinct to take the Jets deep into the playoffs. We'll see how Mangini and company do in the years to come but with the cap mess and the lack of talent in many key areas (not to mention major questions with Chad's health), it's going to be an uphill battle. Still, if he's “The Man” we should see signs of improvement in years 2-3. Next year is a rebuilding year for sure.

By: seanmac31

seanmac31 — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:47:42 +0000

I think the fan base became quite hostile towards Edwards over the course of the season, so that there was more impetus to fire him than to retain him. I'm not doubting that there are other factors that led to his departure as well, but I think Edwards' primary reason for forcing the team's hand was that he knew that another bad year would almost certainly result in his being fired and having to wait a long time before being a head coach again. If the team had agreed to extend his contract and truly supported him, I think he absolutely would have stayed.

By: seanmac31

seanmac31 — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:11:55 +0000

Well, they just had stability for the past five years, and it resulted in the longest period of sustained success in the franchise's history. Then the fan base decided that they wanted the blood of the coach and the GM and so went the stability. Short of a Super Bowl appearance or consecutive 12-4 seasons, I would expect the same pattern to rear its ugly head no later than three years from now.

By: cousinrk

cousinrk — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:31:47 +0000

My God, this team exacerbates me. Every writer buries them no matter what move they make. They seem to be more leaks in this organization than on the titanic. I need a Jets break, they depress me. But I do like the idea of Mangini and Schott building a new organization. THey are young and hopefully will build stability. Then when Terry gets the boot next year it'll be their show to run. Dump the baggage and build with youth, I'm all for it. Although its going to be a rough couple of years as we wait. We've waited this long already what's another few years I guess. Thank God for the Mets…I hope.

By: gdtrfb88toon

gdtrfb88toon — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:08:54 +0000

if the JETS do not improve in the next 2-3 years, the Media, as they love to past-post, will blast everyone in the organization for putting together such a young, inexperienced coaching staff. If 2005 was just an inury-plagued anomaly, then Mangini is a genius, the Assistants are innovators, and the Front Office is savvy. In today's Free-Agency and Salary Cap era, it is much more important to be lucky and healthy than it is to be good and deep. what is the point of developing depth? so another team can sign the reserves you developed? The NFL was a much better product pre-1990.
Case in point: Bellichick was a dummy in Cleveland, but then all of a sudden is a genius because Mo Lewis laid out Bledsoe, the NFL jobbed the Raiders in the tuck rule game, the zebras swallowed their whistles against the Colts in 2003, and Andy Reid refused to go to a hurry-up offense?
The JETS have been getting screwed by the Refs, with the exception of the Vinny QB sneak call (wich of course prompted the return of replay – yet where the **** was that when the Lions DB was lying out of bounds with the ball that knocked uf out of the 1997 playoffs). So, unless we expect the genius protege Mangini to get the same lucky breaks as boring Bill, we are kidding ourselves if we think he is savior.
In summary, with the talent spread evenly throughout the league, it is a matter of who stays healthy and gets a few breaks to win close games.

By: rillo

rillo — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:23:07 +0000

Only time will tell….should be a very intresting couple of months. Where did Sutton come from? Was he already on staff and got promoted?