Comments on: It’s Up to Us Fans to Push the League on Concussions http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:56:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dave http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18523 dave Tue, 15 May 2007 16:38:19 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18523 I've been concussed a couple times in football, but most memorably the evening before Jet-Bills in 2004 or 5, in Buffalo, drinking too much and falling backwards into a table. I do remember testaverde throwing a horrible pick, mawae fumbling a snap, and kelly holcomb playing like peyton manning. I’ve been concussed a couple times in football, but most memorably the evening before Jet-Bills in 2004 or 5, in Buffalo, drinking too much and falling backwards into a table. I do remember testaverde throwing a horrible pick, mawae fumbling a snap, and kelly holcomb playing like peyton manning.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18520 Bent Tue, 15 May 2007 16:12:47 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18520 A friend of mine is a rugby player and they automatically \"ban\" you for a period of time after a concusiion to make sure you recover fully. However, he got a concussion and managed to conceal it by simply grabbing onto the nearest guy to him for the remainder of the game and going with the flow. He said he could see two horizons and they were vertical instead of horizontal. Another friend was concussed when he fell and hit his head at a basketball game, but he had to drive us home (50 miles). I guess this was not as serious, but he was pretty sick. A friend of mine is a rugby player and they automatically \”ban\” you for a period of time after a concusiion to make sure you recover fully. However, he got a concussion and managed to conceal it by simply grabbing onto the nearest guy to him for the remainder of the game and going with the flow. He said he could see two horizons and they were vertical instead of horizontal.

Another friend was concussed when he fell and hit his head at a basketball game, but he had to drive us home (50 miles). I guess this was not as serious, but he was pretty sick.

]]> By: wayne http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18517 wayne Tue, 15 May 2007 16:04:41 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18517 I would say a knockout should be treated as a knockout, it is pretty obvious, players will not be able to hide it. This is the type of issue that can be exposed by blogs, for the most part the media is in bed with the league on this stuff. One of the problems is that NFL contracts are not guaranteed so players are reluctant to disclose problems. There should be a clause that would guarantee payments of existing contract if an injury is incurred on the field which prohibits future participation. Teams should also get a cap waiver for that contract. In every other sport concussions are taken way more seriously and I believe the non guaranteed contracts are a major cause, both from the team and players perspective. I would say a knockout should be treated as a knockout, it is pretty obvious, players will not be able to hide it.

This is the type of issue that can be exposed by blogs, for the most part the media is in bed with the league on this stuff.

One of the problems is that NFL contracts are not guaranteed so players are reluctant to disclose problems. There should be a clause that would guarantee payments of existing contract if an injury is incurred on the field which prohibits future participation.

Teams should also get a cap waiver for that contract.

In every other sport concussions are taken way more seriously and I believe the non guaranteed contracts are a major cause, both from the team and players perspective.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18516 Bent Tue, 15 May 2007 16:02:56 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18516 Yeah, I get that on IE, but not other browsers. He is currently still listed as active, but hasn't wrestled for years although he still works for WWE and sometime appears on the show backstage in a managerial capacity. Last I heard, he was not planning to get back into the ring again, due to the head traumas. Yeah, I get that on IE, but not other browsers.

He is currently still listed as active, but hasn’t wrestled for years although he still works for WWE and sometime appears on the show backstage in a managerial capacity. Last I heard, he was not planning to get back into the ring again, due to the head traumas.

]]> By: dave http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18513 dave Tue, 15 May 2007 15:49:43 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18513 i've had at least 10 concussions, and i'm the smartest person i know. the problem with head injuries is that they are often very subjective with regard to severity. sometimes a concussion puts you out for a couple hours, sometimes a couple seconds. it's hard to put the doctors at fault when most players will be reluctant to acknowledge concussions when there's mandates that wont let them play after x knockouts... does anyone else have problems with the comment blocks?? I can't see the type on the right side after 20 or so words... i’ve had at least 10 concussions, and i’m the smartest person i know.

the problem with head injuries is that they are often very subjective with regard to severity. sometimes a concussion puts you out for a couple hours, sometimes a couple seconds. it’s hard to put the doctors at fault when most players will be reluctant to acknowledge concussions when there’s mandates that wont let them play after x knockouts…

does anyone else have problems with the comment blocks?? I can’t see the type on the right side after 20 or so words…

]]> By: Bassett http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18511 Bassett Tue, 15 May 2007 15:22:51 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18511 Hey Bent, yes it is. I didn't know who he was when he mentioned it, as I don't follow wrestling. Apparently, he wrote the book, based out of his own experience with concussions and the subsequent damage he did by getting back in the ring too early. Hey Bent, yes it is. I didn’t know who he was when he mentioned it, as I don’t follow wrestling. Apparently, he wrote the book, based out of his own experience with concussions and the subsequent damage he did by getting back in the ring too early.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18508 Bent Tue, 15 May 2007 14:38:02 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18508 Is that Chris Nowinski the former WWE wrestler? I would consider him a former wrestler rather than an author. Is that Chris Nowinski the former WWE wrestler?

I would consider him a former wrestler rather than an author.

]]> By: jetsgrumbler http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/its-up-to-us-fans-to-push-the-league-on-concussions/#comment-18507 jetsgrumbler Tue, 15 May 2007 14:34:14 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2141#comment-18507 i completely agree that the NFL needs to make some policy changes regarding head injuries. a good example of a sports league handling head injuries properly is the new MMA league, IFL. one of there fighters suffered a vicious knockout last year, and they gave him a 180 day medical suspension. in the NFL, he would have been forced to play the next week or been subject to ridicule and pressure from coaches and teammates. i completely agree that the NFL needs to make some policy changes regarding head injuries.

a good example of a sports league handling head injuries properly is the new MMA league, IFL. one of there fighters suffered a vicious knockout last year, and they gave him a 180 day medical suspension. in the NFL, he would have been forced to play the next week or been subject to ridicule and pressure from coaches and teammates.

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