Comments on: Links: At Least He Learned Something in NY http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/links-at-least-he-learned-something-in-ny/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:20:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/links-at-least-he-learned-something-in-ny/#comment-18524 Bent Tue, 15 May 2007 16:39:29 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2140#comment-18524 That's true. How many times did we hear "we're really going to open up the playbook this year" and "we'll be looking to stretch the field this season" during the even-Chrebet's-mom-know's-what's-coming-next era? This was true even before Chad's injuries gave him a potential excuse for not going long (and was still the case with Vinny back there). So, what we're saying is - despite what he says - don't be signing up any of these young guys for your fantasy team because the chances are they won't get as much chance as he says they will, right? That’s true. How many times did we hear “we’re really going to open up the playbook this year” and “we’ll be looking to stretch the field this season” during the even-Chrebet’s-mom-know’s-what’s-coming-next era?

This was true even before Chad’s injuries gave him a potential excuse for not going long (and was still the case with Vinny back there).

So, what we’re saying is – despite what he says – don’t be signing up any of these young guys for your fantasy team because the chances are they won’t get as much chance as he says they will, right?

]]> By: wayne http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/links-at-least-he-learned-something-in-ny/#comment-18522 wayne Tue, 15 May 2007 16:26:01 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2140#comment-18522 What Herm says and does are two differen things. SAID he was going to get more plays for Lamont for three years, but never did. I'll believe it when I see it. Bent, you are correct, he just as easily could have never made the playoffs. He is a terrific motivator and horrible game coach. This is why I hate the fact Jets play him in Week 17, that is when he is most dangerous, a meaningless game for KC but will have them motivated. Only reason he had any success here was he inherited a quality team from Parcells. So he made the playoff three years, whoop de dam doo. He underachieved with the talent he had, which is the true measure of a coach. What Herm says and does are two differen things. SAID he was going to get more plays for Lamont for three years, but never did.

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Bent, you are correct, he just as easily could have never made the playoffs.

He is a terrific motivator and horrible game coach. This is why I hate the fact Jets play him in Week 17, that is when he is most dangerous, a meaningless game for KC but will have them motivated.

Only reason he had any success here was he inherited a quality team from Parcells. So he made the playoff three years, whoop de dam doo.

He underachieved with the talent he had, which is the true measure of a coach.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/links-at-least-he-learned-something-in-ny/#comment-18519 Bent Tue, 15 May 2007 16:09:09 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2140#comment-18519 It's 4 playoff appearances I think, but could just as easily be none: 1. John Hall improbable 53yder at the gun in Oakland 2. Jets would've been eliminated if the Fins don't lose at the gun vs the Pats 3. Jets would've been eliminated if the Steelers Bills game isn't an upset 4. Chiefs would have been eliminated if any of five other playoff contenders hadn't lost. He could just as easily be 47-49 with no playoff appearances. (I realise I am pushing it a bit here). SD's point is dead on...he doesn't learn from his mistakes, as proven last year when he overworked LJ and was too conservative in the early season and too predictable in the playoff loss to the colts. It’s 4 playoff appearances I think, but could just as easily be none:

1. John Hall improbable 53yder at the gun in Oakland
2. Jets would’ve been eliminated if the Fins don’t lose at the gun vs the Pats
3. Jets would’ve been eliminated if the Steelers Bills game isn’t an upset
4. Chiefs would have been eliminated if any of five other playoff contenders hadn’t lost.

He could just as easily be 47-49 with no playoff appearances. (I realise I am pushing it a bit here).

SD’s point is dead on…he doesn’t learn from his mistakes, as proven last year when he overworked LJ and was too conservative in the early season and too predictable in the playoff loss to the colts.

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/links-at-least-he-learned-something-in-ny/#comment-18510 SackDance99 Tue, 15 May 2007 15:17:11 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2140#comment-18510 At least Herm is acknowledging that he made a mistake with Cotchery and is trying to learn. One of Herm's many problems was that it never seemed like he learned from his mistakes, like poor clock management, reliance upon mediocre veterans over promising rookies, over-working his primary running back, and failing to mandate that his players maintain their conditioning to lessen the chance of in-season injuries. We like to flame Herm, but he's, for the most part, been a successful head coach (48-48 over 6 seasons and 3 playoff appearances). I'm still laughing over the Chargers' hiring of Norv Turner. One playoff appearance in 9 years of NFL head coaching and a 58-82-1 regular season record. Herm's Lombardi compared to that clown. Why on earth would the Chargers trust the most talented team in the NFL to a perennial loser? At least Herm is acknowledging that he made a mistake with Cotchery and is trying to learn. One of Herm’s many problems was that it never seemed like he learned from his mistakes, like poor clock management, reliance upon mediocre veterans over promising rookies, over-working his primary running back, and failing to mandate that his players maintain their conditioning to lessen the chance of in-season injuries. We like to flame Herm, but he’s, for the most part, been a successful head coach (48-48 over 6 seasons and 3 playoff appearances). I’m still laughing over the Chargers’ hiring of Norv Turner. One playoff appearance in 9 years of NFL head coaching and a 58-82-1 regular season record. Herm’s Lombardi compared to that clown. Why on earth would the Chargers trust the most talented team in the NFL to a perennial loser?

]]> By: jerry http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/links-at-least-he-learned-something-in-ny/#comment-18499 jerry Tue, 15 May 2007 13:28:19 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2140#comment-18499 This was my favorite line from the Herm article: "Edwards said one of his biggest regrets last season was not playing Webb more. He indicated the Chiefs have simplified their playbook to make it easier for young receivers." So, I guess that means giving the ball to Larry Johnson on every down wasn't simple enough for the receivers to follow? This was my favorite line from the Herm article:
“Edwards said one of his biggest regrets last season was not playing Webb more. He indicated the Chiefs have simplified their playbook to make it easier for young receivers.”
So, I guess that means giving the ball to Larry Johnson on every down wasn’t simple enough for the receivers to follow?

]]> By: Ferragamo http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/05/15/links-at-least-he-learned-something-in-ny/#comment-18494 Ferragamo Tue, 15 May 2007 12:33:50 +0000 http://thejetsblog.com/?p=2140#comment-18494 That Herm story is hilarious, isn't it nice that he's finally learning from all his mistakes up in here in NY. Thanks Herm! If we can bring in Sam Adams for cheap I think we should do it. What's really the risk if we don't have to invest a lot in him. That Herm story is hilarious, isn’t it nice that he’s finally learning from all his mistakes up in here in NY. Thanks Herm!

If we can bring in Sam Adams for cheap I think we should do it. What’s really the risk if we don’t have to invest a lot in him.

]]>