Comments on: Mangini Getting All Spy Game On Us http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: thejetsblog.com » Jets Bring in Tory James & Artrell Hawkins http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-44332 thejetsblog.com » Jets Bring in Tory James & Artrell Hawkins Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:12:13 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-44332 [...] thing about the Dolphins fan is not surprising.  I find my bumbling post from a few weeks ago quoting Spy Game as prophetic … in the way that old crazy divination lady from Harry Potter is prophetic [...] [...] thing about the Dolphins fan is not surprising.  I find my bumbling post from a few weeks ago quoting Spy Game as prophetic … in the way that old crazy divination lady from Harry Potter is prophetic [...]

]]> By: thejetsblog.com » Goodell Determined Patriots ‘Violated League Rules” http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-42148 thejetsblog.com » Goodell Determined Patriots ‘Violated League Rules” Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:04:45 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-42148 [...] find it interesting that we had a conversation on TJB just last week about winning at all costs by bringing in those players. Looks like BB upped the stakes. Not sure how this all happens? Tom [...] [...] find it interesting that we had a conversation on TJB just last week about winning at all costs by bringing in those players. Looks like BB upped the stakes. Not sure how this all happens? Tom [...]

]]> By: Sean http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40875 Sean Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:40:45 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40875 The real question is why the team let Caldwell leave without a contract. According to FO, he was better last year than any of the receivers the Pats brought in this offseason, and he's undoubtedly better than Brad Smith or anyone below Smith on the depth chart. He would be quality depth and would likely come pretty cheap. The real question is why the team let Caldwell leave without a contract. According to FO, he was better last year than any of the receivers the Pats brought in this offseason, and he’s undoubtedly better than Brad Smith or anyone below Smith on the depth chart. He would be quality depth and would likely come pretty cheap.

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40853 SackDance99 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:48:27 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40853 I guess we don't think that Caldwell can be a useful player? Can he play LG? Yes, he would be signed for one reason only: to find out how the Pats intend to use Randy Moss. If Caldwell can help the Jets get a little edge, then so be it. I'm tired of seeing the Pats beat us on our home field. I guess we don’t think that Caldwell can be a useful player? Can he play LG? Yes, he would be signed for one reason only: to find out how the Pats intend to use Randy Moss. If Caldwell can help the Jets get a little edge, then so be it. I’m tired of seeing the Pats beat us on our home field.

]]> By: Wormfather (AKA Aaron) http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40835 Wormfather (AKA Aaron) Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:16:27 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40835 Sign the paper then talk. Sign the paper then talk.

]]> By: Thurdeye http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40834 Thurdeye Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:07:09 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40834 So say your Caldwell (what big eyes you have!) and the Pats pick up 4 WR in the offseason. Then after going thru all of training camp they cut you. If a rival team then picks you up and asks you, what type of plays you were running and what the audibles were, would you answer? truthfully? I'm not really sure what I would do. I could see myself being pissed I got cut and tell all the secrets hoping that the team that cut me gets romped. But I could also see myself thinking this new team is just using me and they have no intention of signing me so screw them. So say your Caldwell (what big eyes you have!) and the Pats pick up 4 WR in the offseason. Then after going thru all of training camp they cut you. If a rival team then picks you up and asks you, what type of plays you were running and what the audibles were, would you answer? truthfully? I’m not really sure what I would do. I could see myself being pissed I got cut and tell all the secrets hoping that the team that cut me gets romped. But I could also see myself thinking this new team is just using me and they have no intention of signing me so screw them.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40813 Bent Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:19:47 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40813 Until there's a rule against it, you have to push the envelope. Whilst everyone would like a roster filled with 53 Chrebets to heroically overcome the odds and win a Superbowl in movie style-fashion, sport is a business and I love that our guys are prepared to do anything within the rules to gain an advantage. How much of an advantage is debateable, but any advantage at all is worthwhile. That's why nobody can have a problem with some baseball teams spending more money than others...because they can. Even in the NBA, where there is a cap, certain teams get round the cap legally by over-using exceptions or by paying minimum salaries to ring-hungry vets...if it's legal, why not? If it was found out that a team had been doing something illegal after the fact (say a team was all found to be on steroids or something), then that'd be different. Until there’s a rule against it, you have to push the envelope.

Whilst everyone would like a roster filled with 53 Chrebets to heroically overcome the odds and win a Superbowl in movie style-fashion, sport is a business and I love that our guys are prepared to do anything within the rules to gain an advantage. How much of an advantage is debateable, but any advantage at all is worthwhile.

That’s why nobody can have a problem with some baseball teams spending more money than others…because they can. Even in the NBA, where there is a cap, certain teams get round the cap legally by over-using exceptions or by paying minimum salaries to ring-hungry vets…if it’s legal, why not?

If it was found out that a team had been doing something illegal after the fact (say a team was all found to be on steroids or something), then that’d be different.

]]> By: jet4lif http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40807 jet4lif Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:08:32 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40807 Maybe its not to pick brains, but to throw some kind of smokescreens. Coaches(especially like BB) tend to overthink and overanalyze when these things happen, and would waste more time on changing good plays instead of implementing them. Its all good. Maybe its not to pick brains, but to throw some kind of smokescreens. Coaches(especially like BB) tend to overthink and overanalyze when these things happen, and would waste more time on changing good plays instead of implementing them.
Its all good.

]]> By: The NYC Parking Expert http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40798 The NYC Parking Expert Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:37:34 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40798 I don't see anything unethical about it at all. Philly signed Kimo and we play them, we traded Kedall to the Skins and we play them, too. It's just part of the game. I don’t see anything unethical about it at all. Philly signed Kimo and we play them, we traded Kedall to the Skins and we play them, too. It’s just part of the game.

]]> By: Ferragamo http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/09/05/mangini-getting-all-spy-game-on-us/#comment-40794 Ferragamo Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:09:29 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=2624#comment-40794 I was really thinking about this whole thing and asking myself how much information can we really get from a guy like Caldwell or Artrell Hawkins, who was brought in last week for a visit. I could understand trying to get into a kid like Mike Elgin's head, whose been with the Patroits the entire offseason and is now a part of our Practice Squad. But if we're just bringing in Caldwell or Hawkins for a visit, how much time do they really spend out at Hofstra? And if the Jets aren't really that serious about signing either of them, why would they or there agents let the Jets staff pick there brains? Who knows, I'm just throwing it out there. As far as ethics go, hey whatever it takes to win right, I mean we're not breaking any rules..... "All's fair in love and war" I was really thinking about this whole thing and asking myself how much information can we really get from a guy like Caldwell or Artrell Hawkins, who was brought in last week for a visit. I could understand trying to get into a kid like Mike Elgin’s head, whose been with the Patroits the entire offseason and is now a part of our Practice Squad. But if we’re just bringing in Caldwell or Hawkins for a visit, how much time do they really spend out at Hofstra? And if the Jets aren’t really that serious about signing either of them, why would they or there agents let the Jets staff pick there brains? Who knows, I’m just throwing it out there. As far as ethics go, hey whatever it takes to win right, I mean we’re not breaking any rules….. “All’s fair in love and war”

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