Final Score: Bills 17 Jets 14
As a Jets fan there are 100 things that are going through my mind this morning. I stupidly didn’t know the situation with DirectTV (I was out and taped the wrong channel — apparently they black out games shown locally, so now I know), and didn’t get to see the game. From everything I’ve read, people I’ve talked to who saw the game, and reading your comments, here are some of the things going through my mind:
Now THAT’S a heartbreaking loss — In a weekend full of upsets in NCAA and the NFL, even if you are cynically optimistic about this Jets team like I am, that’s a game you expect your team to win. A team with a rookie QB (who could be great in the NFL, who am I to argue with Bill Walsh?) and decimated by injuries did what it took to win. The Jets split their games last year with the Bills, and the difference in that one win was turnovers, in the game yesterday the Jets had two big ones.
Who gets the blame? – We fans love to blame stuff. From what I am seeing in your comments, I think there is plenty to go around and am not going to hang the loss on any one group or player, but certainly there were some things that didn’t help: the missed field goal, the lack of serious running game, the front seven being manhandled on the rushing Bills’ TD, short passes, the turnovers, the defense being ill-prepared to defend the passing game of a rookie, they were all contributing factors in a game that pretty much crushed Jets fans spirits around the world yesterday.
Why did we have high expectations of this team? – Because we’re Jets fans and it’s in our DNA. The truth of the situation last year was one in which I was afraid of, and had written about. As the Jets started their late season push for the playoffs, I was concerned that everyone would want him to be named Coach of the Year, and that would basically be the albatross around his neck this season. He lost to Sean Payton, who isn’t having that great of a year himself if you’ll take note. This team is a work in progress and this game proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt, am I sorry I was right about this? Absolutely.
You gotta score at least 20 to win — I’m not sure what the adage is, but if you look at the Week 4 games alone, only two teams who scored less than 20 points won their game, the Bills and the Giants.
Is is over? — Until the team has more than six losses, it’s not exactly over, but to be going into Week 5 with just one win, it’s hard to imagine any other scenario playing out. From this point on, the Jets would need to go 9-3 over the next thirteen weeks, and it’s hard to believe from what we’ve seen thus far that that is a real possibility. I never expected this team to make the playoffs this year and I’ve been pretty vocal about it, with 20 of 22 starters returning (though more changes than that), the schedule IS the difference.
It’s not the coaching (yet) — The good news is that Brian Schottenheimer might not get that head coaching job at the end of this season, but I can’t blame the difference this year on the coaches … really what are they doing different? What does frustrate me is the shaded nose stuff in the 3-4, sack up, get a 330+ pound beast and let’s go. I will say that the Jets failed to properly address some spots on both of their lines (NT, OG, RT) and the hubris in the Kendall situation is biting them in the ass, and to not address these CRITICAL NEEDS properly this offseason will be at their own peril. Fans will have pitchforks and torches soon if they can’t upgrade their lines.
When do you fish/cut bait? — Do they even want Clemens to succeed Pennington at any point? If so, they have to start thinking about that situation. With three losses already, when do you quit with the “we’ll do what’s best to help us win this week” talk and put your Quarterback of the future out there? When does winning this week become less important than winning next year? Have they determined who the guy is for next year?
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RAJ says:
This is the QB of the future? A run and shoot college QB who is as inaccurate as Browing Nagle with just as strong an arm. How about replacing a poor offensive line who can’t run or pass protect, including the over rated Nick Mangold.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/7798/index.html
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docdhc says:
Does fish mean bench Chad or is that cutting bait? Anyway, its time in my mind. Watching Clemens, with a live arm, driving down the field against Baltimore in crunch time and contrasting that to the dink and dunk fest trying to come back against Buffalo is convincing enough to me. We will never consistently beat good teams if we fall behind with a QB that doesn’t have a major league arm. 10-6 is our ceiling with Chad and that is not good enough, especially with the poor start this year.
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Jay says:
With the play calling being so predictable I don’t care who the QB is, Schott is overated because of his name. He gets credit for “creative” play calling, but look at the results. He constantly puts the team in 3rd and long situations because of his bad 1st down play calls, I have only seen this team look good when they are in a hurry up, or 2 minute offense. He plays into the defense, rather than the opposite, I never see a slant pass, or screen pass, how about a play action to the TE at the goalline (ala Bills).
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GlockNSoul says:
Unfortunately, I think we’re in for a long year. This team is so un-exciting, it’s like watching paint dry. I have said it before, and I’ll say it again. Football is won and lost in the trenches, and we are getting bogged down in both of ours. The Marshawn Lynch TD run was typical Jets – jump on and enjoy the ride, fellas ! Our D is not strong enough to stand up against anyone’s run game, and not athletic enough to rush the passer. The 3-4 is (and will continue) to be a recipe for disaster. When you objectively sit back and look at it, the problem with the Jets is simple – not enough play-makers on the roster.
And while I think Mangini will be a very good coach, the mark of the great ones is that they mold their system to fit the players, and not vice versa. Mangini’s stubbornness in sticking with the 3-4 is hurting the entire team.
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Jonathan says:
If we’re not going to use Thomas Jones, let’s return to sender, as they would surely use him.
Seems like Schottenheimer can only involve some of the parts each week (Leon this week, but not in Baltimore; Brad this week, but not others), but not several consistently.We did nothing to shake the confidence of the young QB early. Our defense provokes fear in no one. I hate starting the Jets’ opposing RBs in fantasy, but it’s sadly a sure thing.
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Mr. Keto says:
You say “The good news is that Brian Schottenheimer might not get that head coaching job at the end of this season.”
Why is that good news? Has he distinguished himself? How? By calling for play after play that goes a maximum of 2 yards past the line of scrimmage when we need 10? By under- utilizing Thomas Jones? Do you see creativity that I don’t? What has this offense done to surprise you or our opponents this year?
I see a scared ****less playcaller – reminds me of his dad.
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Sean says:
Forget about trying to run the 3-4 period. I dont want this defense to be the second coming of the Pats D. We need our JETS to have their own identity. They have the personnel to run a solid 4-3 defense. Robertson is (not great) but pretty effective in the 4-3, while Vilma proved in his Rookie (of the year) Season that he terrorizes offenses when he can roam the field and Thomas is a decent end. Slide K. Coleman inside and run the 4-3. Otherwise, make the next inevitable wrong move and trade Vilma and watch him become one of the top 5 linebackers in football. You build your schemes around your talent, not the opposite way around.
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Wormfather (AKA Aaron) says:
Hey, hey, hey. Let’s all take a second and thank our stars that we arnt Mets fans (to those of you who are, my condolences)
Now, seriously people, this is buffalo we were playing. In the AFC East when it comes to division games you’ve got to throw the records and the rosters out the window.
The Jets offense was no better or worse than it has been at any point this season. The defense was obviously expecting one game and got another. Nugent missed a field goal, kickers not named Adam V. do that from time to time.
Our season is far from over. Over the next four weeks the teams we’re playing are 5-8. The Giants being the only team that’s at least .500 and a win against them will put us at 2-3 with a full head of steam heading into 3 more beatable games. Next month this time we could be looking at a 5-3 record and happier times.
Lets not jump off the bridge yet guys.
Worm-out.
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TOON2388 says:
Will try not to be long-winded here, but this will help me cope with the darkest day in the Tangini era – thank goodness Yanks are in playoffs so I only have to spend 3 days instead of 6 dwelling on this crap (and my condokences to Willie & all of you Mets fans – I feel for you).
Part I – Blame for yesterday (this has potential to be longer than Caro’s 4 part LBJ biography). These are in no pzrticular order
***The Defense as a whole. Same old story – could not get off field, does not put opponent into 2nd/3rd & long situations, cannot generate a pass rush without sending at least 5. Obviously did not do a good job in disguising coverage as rookie QB was decisive and knew where he was going with ball quickly. Bills had too many guys that were wide open all day
***Offensive Line cannot run block. That 3rd & 1 on ist drive of 2nd half sums it up – everyone knew we were running and line got caved in for a 2 yard loss
***Coaching decision to not go for it on 4th & 1 on 1st drive. 1) why not challenge spot – which looked sketchy, and even if you lose, you are only losing same TO you were probably going to use to call the play to go for it
***Special Teams – We lost by 3, Nugent missed a FG from less than 40 – good Kickers should not miss those
***QB – horrible INT early in 4th. Chad just cannot throw that ballPart II: QB Situation
Until yesterday, despite Clemen’s 2nd half successin Baltimore, I agreed with Mangini that Chad gave team best chance to win. It took Clemens over a half to start making good/quick decisions, while Buff’s rookie QB was prepared from play 1. Yesterday, a below average NFL defense, that is banged up, was able to crowd the line of scrimmage because they did not have to worry about getting beat deep. With 6:48 left, we went into a hurry-up offense and it took over 3:30 of game time to score – that is way too much time. Chad averaged less than 10 yards a completion. We are just not a good enough team in every other area to win with a QB that cannot throw 20 yard outs on a rope – and he has to because the CBs know that they are not at risk to get burned on a 40 yard pump & go. Chad was suited for the West Coast Offense – he had his bst year by far in 2002 – has not come close to approaching that efficiency for an extended period since that time.This now has to become Kellen’s team
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klecko71 says:
good points sean. this team has some playmakers on defense who arent being allowed to make them. (except david barrett of course…nice whiff on a 3rd down tackle). and there are some guys on offense who can make plays, cotch, leon, coles makes EVERY FREAKIN TOUGH CATCH!!, but either shott doesnt trust chad or chad is looking for the dumpoff waaaaay to much. That game was beyond nauseating to watch…..i know all of us on this post are lunatic jet fans like myself, so all of us had to be ill when chads last pass / womanly effort was picked. I love the guy and he has talent, but that game was an abomination on offense.
and last but not least…..i will mail a check to someone to tells me the last time this defense forced a 3 and out. 10$ to the winner! -
CanadianJet says:
Making Clemens the starter of this team would be a very, very bad mistake. I am not sure where all this ‘second coming’ talk is coming from, but have you seen him play? He’s the worst of the worst of all the 2nd string QB’s in the NFL.
But, what can we do? Pennington (love the kid, by the way), he’s just not cutting it. So I guess the choice is what’s the lesser of two evils, and for me it’s Pennington. Sorry. I would rather have a 1-15 season with Chad at the helm than have a 1-15 season with Clemens at the helm. At least let Chad finish what he started and work on someone else for next year.
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Wormfeather, who cares that our opponents coming up are 5-8. The Bills were 1-2, and near dead last in offense and defense. I’m not drinking any of this KoolAid until I see the Jets come up with some personnel/schemes that allow them to block the person in front of them and not catch blocks all day long on D.
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jet4lif says:
Sorry guys, but Chads gotta go. I have been the staunchest supporter of Chad for all these years with his game control and will power. That all stopped in the last 2 drives yesterday. We needed 2 scores with least amount of time and how many times did they throw the ball downfield? Never. The defense usually gives lotsa cushion in these situations but eh billd D knew all along not to bother with cushion.
Chads gotta ago but we can use Chad in some situations:
Red zone,
backup role,
2 Min drill before 1st half,
Maybe OTBut Chads gotta go
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yeselson says:
Hate to say I told ya so–but told ya so. What Sean said about the 3-4, and what I said from the first mags training camp–you adjust schemes to personnel, not the other way around. That’s why Pat Riley won in the NBA with both fast breaks and walking it up the court. Vilma is lost, a non-factor–how does that help the defense? There’s no legitimate NT–how do you run a 3-4 w/out a NT. It’s a mistake.
As was getting with Kendall over chump change. Great–they set an example. The example being: The Jets are a lousy place to go if you want management to give you a good deal. They probably cost themselves another half dozen good free agents–and destroyed their OL in the bargain.
Tougher schedule reveals the vulnerabilities. They’re not that good–average offense, substantially below average defense with zero pass rush that all the schemes in the world can’t compensate for, inconsistent special teams. No superstars at the skill positions–no pro bowler who frightens the other team’s defensive coordinator. But on this day, we long time fans of certain NY sports teams have to look at the bright side: At least the Jets aren’t the Mets.
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wayne says:
I thought they should have gone for it on 4th and 1 early, and while I did not consider at the time challenging the spot makes sense.
This was a close game, not getting 20+ carries for TJ is absurd, unless he was hurt as someone with me suggested. Yes they were stacking the box, but does that mean you submit to their defense? Continue running, then use play action.
Chad had one of his best statistical games, to blame this on him is absurd. Inablity to run or play calling yes, place some blame there, but the QB is not the reason they lost.
Penalites and mistakes cost them the game. They were called for a lot of questionable penalties at crucial times, usually in the red zone.
You can not place the blame on the defense, you are supposed to win in the NFL when you allow 17 points. If you tried to tell me they would lose while holding Evans and Lynch to 150 yards COMBINED I would have locked you up in an asylum and thrown away the key.
In summary, they lost because A) bad penalties (McCarreins?) B) inability to run and/or abandoning the running game too soon C) bad coaching.
It is time to take off the rose coloured glasses and place some blame where it belongs, with the Mangenius (Manidiot?).
Lets not fall into the Herm Edwards blame game trap by trashing the coordinators. Their game plan sucked, they never adjusted and played sloppy from the start. Unprepared.
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It really is sad to see the whole world continue to blame a defensive system for a team’s shortcomings.
They allow 17 points, only 3.0 ypc, hold Evans and Lynch (behind the superstar filled, largest in the NFL offensive line) to 150 yards combined, yet here we go again blaming the 3-4 scheme.
Open your eyes, there are more problems here than a scheme and failure to sign a 36 year old guard.
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While there certainly is room for debate over the reasons for this dismal beginning to the season, can we please retire the “tougher schedule” argument?
Are you watching the 2006 or 2007 seasons?
They were blown out in the second half versus the best team in the NFL this year and possibly this century.
They LOST to two 1-3 teams starting back up quarterbacks.
They held on for dear life to 0-4 team that is possibly the worst team in the NFL, AT HOME.
Three of these teams are division opponents that they played in 2006.
In 2006, the year of the easy schedule, the Jets were 2-2 at this point with W’s at BUF and TN, and losses at home to NE and IND.
How in the world can anyone attribute 1-3 to a tougher schedule?
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Ilan says:
I agree with Bassett in the fact that I expected the Jets to take a step back this year although I wasn’t hoping to see it happen. I do agree that there are positions that need upgrading. In partcular (NT, OG, RT) that Bassett mentioned but also LB. As for Clemens, I don’t know is it’s time yet to pull the trigger but if the Jets don’t win a couple games it better happen soon because they need to know wha they have with this guy. Is he another J.P. Losman, or is he a guy that can be efficient, complete passes (and not just dumpoffs), and make the right decisions or do the Jets need to think about addressing the QB position again.
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Good, but Not Great says:
After a bad loss it is only natural to look for someone to blame. But the recent focus on Chad is not just part of the “blame game”. Rather it is recognition that the QB position is the greatest position of leverage on a football team. QB play changes everything. It changes the running game, it changes the passing game, and it changes how opposing defenses attack. The problem with Chad is not his bad performance in the Buffalo game. The problem with Chad is that the Buffalo performance fits a pattern of play that we have seen for several years under various coaches.
Is he a smart man?
Yes. That is obvious.Is he a warrior?
Again, yes. He has proven it over and over.Is he good enough to win?
Sometimes, yes (and sometimes no). When he plays mistake free and the team is performing well in all other phases they can beat the “good” teams. But when he plays poorly they can lose to teams that are decimated by injuries.
Unless the Jets build a team like Trent Dilfer’s 2000 Ravens he will NEVER be the guy that takes them where they want to go. This will not change! His limitations are physical and cannot be coached up.Is he better than K. Clemens?
Yes. Clemens has not played enough.Should they make the switch?
Yes. The inexperienced guy is usually going to cost you in the near-term, but young QB’s need 1st team practice reps and real game experience to develop.Should they wait till 2008?
No!!! The kid will need several games to get used to the NFL speed, and the coaches need as much information about him prior to the off-season as possible. If he develops, then they go with him in 2008. If not, then they need to find someone else in the offseason. While starting Chad this year will likely result in a few more wins, not developing the kid could put next year’s season at risk too!Does the focus on the QB mean that the rest of the team is fine?
No! The defensive front 7 is average at best and there are many questions about the offensive line. But QB is the most important position on the team, and the problem at QB is not simply 1 bad game.Time to make the change!
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slink88 says:
I still see the problem is more with the defense than anything else. Somehow folks are happy to “hold” the potent Bills with a back-up QB to 17 points after they scored a total of 10 points the past 2 weeks. I never get the “feel” that the Jets are going to stop anyone at any point in the game unless the opposing offense takes a penalty, drops a pass, etc…There is no sense of a defense forcing it’s will on anyone. Sorry but a Marshawn Lynch/Trent Edwards led offense is pathetic by NFL standards and yet the Jets defense makes them seem potent.
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SackDance99 says:
I didn’t expect a step back. I expected a step forward. The whole “schedule is tougher” b.s. never held water to me. The Jets were 10-6 last season because they were prepared to win almost every game. The games they lost, they deserved to lose because they fell behind and couldn’t come back or were simply facing better teams. This Buffalo game is a step back because this has “same old jets” written all over it. Nugent’s missed FG isn’t getting enough play. That was a huge miss and deflated the Jets and energized the Bills and their fans. Chad looked great on that drive, too. Plus, the fake spike was a thing of beauty. But, did you see how flat they were coming out of the locker room at half? That was Mets-like…they looked like they were down rather than tied.
I can’t pin this on the defense. This loss gets pinned right on Chad. I posted before, but I think that this offense is stuck in second gear with Chad. Teams just stack the line and dare him to beat them. Chad can do it, but if we expect the running game to click, there has to be the threat of verticality. There is none with Chad. Why play action? The safety won’t bite because he’s not afraid of anyone getting past him because of Chad’s weak arm. I think Chad’s arm looks worse this season. He just has no zip…maybe it’s because he can’t plant his feet because of the injury, maybe it’s because the left side of the OL is too porous and he has to hurry, but there hasn’t been a deep pass thrown by Chad all season.
What can Mangini do to save the season? We won’t see the 4-3 and as others have posted, the Jets don’t have 4-3 players. I’m kind of mystified by how everyone here is down on the run D, it was real good yesterday, with only one breakdown where lynch cut back and squeaked through a tiny hole for the TD. He’s a good back, deceptively strong and shifty. Chalk one up for him there. Remember, the Jets stopped him the next time at the goal line. The problem with the D is no pass rush and without Abraham, what would the Jets have to do? Blitz, and in theory, the 3-4 is the better blitzing defense. So, forget the 3-4. Kendall? I think the whole Kendall thing is BS. Yesterday, Chad had plenty of time to throw and, sure, Kendall could help Brick out, but is that what we spent the no. 4 pick in the draft for? For someone that can’t field his position without help?
It’s Chad. Does anyone else get the feeling that Schott has a 100 chapter playbook, but Chad just plays with the first 20 because of his limitations? Peyton Manning has Tony Ugoh protecting his left side, that hasn’t slowed him down one bit. Compare the Colts line to the Jets’, is it really that much better? The difference is QB. Stacking the line against Manning is suicide, against Chad it’s the league standard. Even great backs like Larry Johnson and LT struggle against 8 in the box. Chad has to be perfect to win in the NFL. When he’s less than perfect, the Jets have no margin for error, like missed FGs or great cutback runs. No team can win under those conditions consistently. -
Good but not Great, I hear where you’re coming from, but I don’t agree! Kellen Clemens will never be a great QB in this league or any other. And I know we all hear stories about those unknown QB’s who take over a team and end up being Super Bowl champions, but that guy just isn’t Clemens. No amount of development time is going to change that. You either are good, or you are not. He is not.
I guess what I am saying is why waste the time on him, an adequate replacement at best? Even giving him ‘a chance’ isn’t going to put the Jets in any better position than they are now.
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CanadianJet, if you’re right about Clemens (and, to be fair, his body of work so far has been encouraging), then the Jets should find that out ASAP. If he stinks, then the Jets have to draft or deal for a QB. We know what we have with Chad, and it’s not enough. Maybe if the Jets had the ’85 Bears defense or the “Hogs” from the Redskins teams of the 80s, maybe all the Jets would need is a dinker and dunker who is an expert game manager. But, the Jets have 2 outstanding WRs that need to have the ball out to them deeper and faster. That will help the Jets’ average OL and help their running game by forcing the safeties and corners to play deeper. Clemens has a stronger arm, quicker release and lots more mobility. I’m a Chad guy and I thought he was poised to have a great season, but he’s been exposed and I just am tired of seeing the boring offense that OC’s feel they have to employ with Chad. Like I said before, he leaves no margin for error.
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Klecko,
It was on the Bills’ last drive of the game. You can email me and I’ll send you my address.
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For the record, this is Scouts Inc.’s 2007 report on Clemens from ESPN Insider:
Has adequate bulk and is well-built. Has trimmed down and has noticeably improved his speed and quickness. Gets set quickly. Is able to scramble and seems most comfortable on the run. Has a strong arm. Gets good RPM’s on the deep out route. Can fit the ball into tight spots and can make all the throws in the NFL. Has good vision and some elusiveness as a runner. Is quicker than fast. He throws well on the run. He has adequate mechanics. A quick and high release. Will follow through. Does a good job of getting his shoulder’s square when throwing on the run. Has just decent arm strength but gets rid of the ball quickly and has good accuracy in the short-to-intermediate zones. Shows touch and timing underneath. He’s a high-energy QB and a vocal leader. Plays the game hard and has continued to improve. Is competitive and tough.
Doesn’t exactly sound like the write up of a bust.
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Sean says:
Actually, the Jets were 10-6 last year because they faced an incredibly easy schedule, plain and simple. Football Outsiders’ DVOA indicates they were the 19th best team in the league last year based on their per-play execution. People work backwards from results to infer cause, and there is no stat that is easier to misinterpret than a win (or a loss, for that matter).
Chad is a limited player in that he is not Peyton Manning, but his limitations are really overstated, or more specifically, the things he is good at are more important for an offense than the things he is weak at. He’s certainly not the reason the team lost, and when you look at how he has played over the three games he’s been in, there is no reason to assume the team will be better by throwing in Clemens, who played one good quarter against a team nursing a 17 point lead and who generated barely 100 yards against that same team when they were actually playing hard.
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You’re right Sack, he should have a chance. So put him into a game that we are sure to lose, such as Vs. New England. Because it’s a game everyone has chalked up as a loss anyway.
Unfortunately, the barometer on why to put Clemens in is “Look what he did vs. Baltimore!”. Ok, fair enough. But examine that statement for a bit.
Baltimore is ranked 10th in Defense. Should it be scary to you that #1-9 are New England, Pittsburgh, KC, J’Ville, TB, Denver, Philadelphia, Dallas and Tennessee?
Well, we don’t play J’Ville, TB, or Denver. So 6 out of 9 opportunities for Clemens to come in and ‘prove’ himself. How about Pittsburgh? :) I’m not convinced with his play vs. Baltimore (a game we lost by the way) enough to get on the Clemens bandwagon. Love to see him win a game against a really tough team. Baltimore got creamed by Cleveland yesterday for God’s sake!
You’ll see when he plays a team like NE or Pitt what kind of QB he is.
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Canadian Jet (and some others), I’m curious where you’re getting the assumption that Clemens can’t do it. Scouts loved him until his injury his senior year – Scouts Inc had him rated well above Cutler and tied with Young during their season preview that year.
In case you think the scouts are just plain wrong here, the stats guys like him a lot too. Football Outsiders has studied QB’s over the past 10 years and found that completion % and # of college starts are the best predictors for pro success. Clemens rates well on both. He completed 60% of his passes as early as his sophomore year, and went up to 64% by his senior year.
Look, there are never any guarantees with young QB’s, but I certainly think Clemens has a real chance to be very good. If we get to the point where we feel this season is lost (I’m not there yet), it makes a ton of sense to give him a full-time shot.
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It should be pointed out that the same projection system thought Pennington would develop into one of the top three quarterbacks in the league. His college stats are awesome. That’s not a knock on the projection system but rather an indication that Pennington may be a better player than he’s being credit for here.
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Canadian J, no ones relying on Clemens game against baltimore. The logic being that clemens is an untested backup QB, and Chad just cant get it done(no matter how good his stats look). Clemens has to be given sufficient time to play so we can draft or get a FA QB. If Clemens is not the solution, then we need to dump either Chad or Clemens next yr.
Agree with SD99, Chad only wins us games when everything else is flawless and we are not in a deep hole. I wonder when was the last time Chad got us out of 14 point deficit in 4th quarter. Its a joke amongst other team’s players of how to defend the JETS. Stack up!!!
I would say, if we dont win 3 out of next 5 games, lets give it to KC and sing hail mary.
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Clemens played for Oregon and missed his last 4 games with an ankle injury. Young and Cutler were ranked #1 and #3 Quarterbacks in the Draft. Who did we take first in that Draft? D’Brickishaw Ferguson! Then we took Clemens and Brad Smith (WHY?!), when we could have had Cutler or Leinart.
In retrospect, how much would you like to have either of those guys now instead of the Brick, or Clemens? Year after year, the New York Jets fail at draft by not making franchise moves.
Now we’re stuck with a Quarterback whose perenially hurt, or a couple of backups who played for Oregona and Missouri and have little business in the CFL, nonetheless in the NFL. When we could be sitting here saying “Pennington’s hurt? Bring in Cutler!”
But Clemens? From Oregon? With this O’Line?
D’Brickabust…we could have put some side of beef there to block for all he’s worth. What a waste of a draft pick.
Oh wait, then we take Revis when whose sitting there all alone? Oh yeah, Brady Quinn, that’s all. We couldn’t find one solitary CB to fill that spot? Not one? Phht…
Franchise moves for Franchise players. And that’s something we NEVER do as a team. Never since 1975 when I started really paying attention anyway. We’ll get those players someday….you know like when we got Testaverde after all his usefulness was wasted on other teams. Franchise Quarterbacks make teams better, just ask Green Bay, or New England, or the 1984 49ers, or a hundred other teams who have been lucky to have them.
Clemens is a crappy QB. You don’t have to believe me, just make sure your seat back is in the upright and locked position, your tray tables are up, and you are in the proper brace position. Because when he takes over piloting the plane, you’ll see for yourself soon enough.
P.S. To further prove my point, when Clemens was drafted, Devin Hester and Maurice Jones-Drew were still on the board.
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jet4lif – I understand the need to develop young QB’s for starting roles someday. But Clemens is a waste of time (IMO).
Sometimes I sit in my garage and try to develop a hunk of lead into gold…
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Jeff says:
I cant blame Chad for the loss but rather the coaching. It seemed that our D expected a different kind of game because we were always looking for the run and they just passed for days. Our D-line is horrendous we cant pressure no-one or stop anyone. its a golden rule in the NFL. “Doesnt matter how good your secondary is, if the QB has time he will complete every pass”
I remember last year that because of our lack of a running game we threw alot more, heck Chad was one of the top QB’s in the league at completing passes over 20yds. This year we have TJ and we strayed away from our successful yet efficient offense. We didnt wow anyone but we sure made plays lst year.The 3-4 is really hurting our team. Yea you have that extra rusher at ILB, which gives you one more cover man. But! If your D-line is undersized then you cant stop the other team. Then all the guards knock over your LB’s and its daylight for the running back. Vilma is one of the top-2 linebackers in the NFL in the 4-3 the other being Urlacher. But in the 3-4 his speed and range is useless since he has to shed blockers and his playmaking is diffused because of shared tackling. I think thecoaching staff has to shed the scheme for now, at least until we get the right personel. Okam should be a nice NT for a 3-4 or we can always grab an edge rusher at OLB but first things first. Also why didnt we get Alan Branch who would have been perfect as NT or DE
The impact of Pennington’s weak arm was truly on display. I don’t know exactly which drive it was — I believe midway through the 2nd qtr – starting from their own 20 or so. First, CP lobbed a pass to Coles on the left sideline – because it was such a floater, the Bill conerback was able to bat it down. The next play (or 2 plays later), CP floated a short one to Cotchery over the middle – it was a high pass that Jericho caught, but he got crunched – lucky he didn’t get hurt. Both of those passes should have been bullets.