Comments on: Cap Comfortable: Jets Rank 10th in 2008 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:30:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: muff http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63185 muff Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:24:24 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63185 i think parcells had some responsibilty with T bradway on these issues. when bradway and herm took over, the team was in a good place, actaully great place, much like dallas and wade phillips this year, but the cap was out of whack from signing guys like mo lewis and marvin jones to contracts beyond there prime years to keep them for the short term. i think parcells had some responsibilty with T bradway on these issues. when bradway and herm took over, the team was in a good place, actaully great place, much like dallas and wade phillips this year, but the cap was out of whack from signing guys like mo lewis and marvin jones to contracts beyond there prime years to keep them for the short term.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63136 Bent Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:29:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63136 Whilst the Jets are often branded foolish for letting guys like Jason Ferguson and Kareem McKenzie go, you have to bear in mind that the Jets were totally capped out, so there was no way we could have afforded them. The real foolishness was getting into that position in the first place, part of which was the Fabini extension that SD referred to. (And trying to replace them with guys like Adrian Jones and Lance Legree). The blame for this pretty much lies with Bradway. Re: What SD said about the DL's tackle statistics, Coleman leads all defensive linemen, Robertson is 5th amongst tackles (for the second straight year) and Ellis is 17th amongst DE's. P.S. There are no NT's in this draft. Not until day two and those guys will be projects/longshots. Whilst the Jets are often branded foolish for letting guys like Jason Ferguson and Kareem McKenzie go, you have to bear in mind that the Jets were totally capped out, so there was no way we could have afforded them.

The real foolishness was getting into that position in the first place, part of which was the Fabini extension that SD referred to. (And trying to replace them with guys like Adrian Jones and Lance Legree). The blame for this pretty much lies with Bradway.

Re: What SD said about the DL’s tackle statistics, Coleman leads all defensive linemen, Robertson is 5th amongst tackles (for the second straight year) and Ellis is 17th amongst DE’s.

P.S. There are no NT’s in this draft. Not until day two and those guys will be projects/longshots.

]]> By: pound4pound http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63100 pound4pound Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:39:22 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63100 Ah, I didn't know that part of the Merriman story. If that's the case, yeah, that makes it different. Ah, I didn’t know that part of the Merriman story. If that’s the case, yeah, that makes it different.

]]> By: K-Man http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63099 K-Man Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:37:15 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63099 Let's put this in perspective... We cannot stop the run WHATSOEVER. We cannot run the ball WHATSOEVER. We need massive amounts of help in the trenches on both sides of the ball. We get beat up just about every game on both sides of the line. Stopping the run and being able to run is the first step. That will change everything. I actually think we can stay put with our LB's, DB's, WR's, etc. We need attitude, strength, and nastiness in the trenches! Let’s put this in perspective… We cannot stop the run WHATSOEVER. We cannot run the ball WHATSOEVER. We need massive amounts of help in the trenches on both sides of the ball. We get beat up just about every game on both sides of the line. Stopping the run and being able to run is the first step. That will change everything. I actually think we can stay put with our LB’s, DB’s, WR’s, etc. We need attitude, strength, and nastiness in the trenches!

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63084 SackDance99 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:58:24 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63084 By the way, the Jets let Mawae, Randy Thomas and Kareem McKenzie (the entire right side of the NFL rushing leader's OL) all sign with other teams. Add in Kendall, and whoever you want at LT, and that's one heck of an offensive line. It's not that the Jets let these guys leave, it's that they let them leave with inadequate replacements. Also, choosing to pay Fabini, but not McKenzie or Thomas, seemed smart at the time because LT is a more valuable position, but that turned out badly. By the way, the Jets let Mawae, Randy Thomas and Kareem McKenzie (the entire right side of the NFL rushing leader’s OL) all sign with other teams. Add in Kendall, and whoever you want at LT, and that’s one heck of an offensive line. It’s not that the Jets let these guys leave, it’s that they let them leave with inadequate replacements. Also, choosing to pay Fabini, but not McKenzie or Thomas, seemed smart at the time because LT is a more valuable position, but that turned out badly.

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63083 SackDance99 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:45:39 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63083 pound4pound, Mawae exacted on the field punishment for what the Titans thought was a cheap shot to Vince Young by Merriman (and, it was). I guess we disagree, because if my QB is delivered a cheap shot by the opposing defense, I want my offensive linemen to exact retribution by taking out the offending player. I wish Brick played with the controlled malice that it takes to succeed as an offensive lineman. Harlan, believe it or not, the last I checked, D-Rob, Coleman and Eliis were all among the NFL leaders in tackles at the DL position. I'm not saying that the DL isn't a problem, but when 3 of 4 LBs in a 3-4 defense, which is all about the LBs making plays, stink, then that's a priority. Ilan, I'm all for taking McFadden if he's there when the Jets pick, but I don't think we can convince Tangini of that. But, McFadden would be a wasted pick if the Jets don't improve the OL. pound4pound, Mawae exacted on the field punishment for what the Titans thought was a cheap shot to Vince Young by Merriman (and, it was). I guess we disagree, because if my QB is delivered a cheap shot by the opposing defense, I want my offensive linemen to exact retribution by taking out the offending player. I wish Brick played with the controlled malice that it takes to succeed as an offensive lineman.

Harlan, believe it or not, the last I checked, D-Rob, Coleman and Eliis were all among the NFL leaders in tackles at the DL position. I’m not saying that the DL isn’t a problem, but when 3 of 4 LBs in a 3-4 defense, which is all about the LBs making plays, stink, then that’s a priority.

Ilan, I’m all for taking McFadden if he’s there when the Jets pick, but I don’t think we can convince Tangini of that. But, McFadden would be a wasted pick if the Jets don’t improve the OL.

]]> By: Ilan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63076 Ilan Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:56:48 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63076 Speaking of explosive playmakers. I don't think the Jets have them on either side of the ball. Both the offense and defense have those needs. I will say it again, if McFadden is available when the Jets pick they can't pass him up. Speaking of explosive playmakers. I don’t think the Jets have them on either side of the ball. Both the offense and defense have those needs. I will say it again, if McFadden is available when the Jets pick they can’t pass him up.

]]> By: pound4pound http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63069 pound4pound Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:14:29 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63069 SD99, actually I'm kind of glad that Brick isn't the kind of guy who'd be looking to cheap-shot an opponent. If that's the kind of "leadership" Mawae is providing these days, no thanks. I do want to see Brick do a better job on run blocking, and I agree that Faneca would be a terrific fit. He just turned 31, and he's incredibly durable, so he should have 4-5 prime years left in him. Add him, play Bender, and draft a RT / RG in the later rounds, and we should be set on the OL. My top priorities are pass-rushing OLB, NT, and OG. NT is the toughest of those to fill, and there won't be one worth taking in the first couple of rounds in the draft. A pure pass rusher makes a huge difference in the play of the rest of the unit, because he causes fumbles and turnovers, and can make the other team more conservative on offense. We don't have a single player in the top 50 in the NFL in sacks! Not surprisingly, we've only gotten 5 fumbles this year - lowest in the Niffle. To date, Team Tangini has done a good job of plugging holes with solid, dependable guys, but we don't yet have game-breakers on either side of the ball. If we're going to keep building, we need to add an explosive playmaker on the defense. SD99, actually I’m kind of glad that Brick isn’t the kind of guy who’d be looking to cheap-shot an opponent. If that’s the kind of “leadership” Mawae is providing these days, no thanks. I do want to see Brick do a better job on run blocking, and I agree that Faneca would be a terrific fit. He just turned 31, and he’s incredibly durable, so he should have 4-5 prime years left in him. Add him, play Bender, and draft a RT / RG in the later rounds, and we should be set on the OL.

My top priorities are pass-rushing OLB, NT, and OG. NT is the toughest of those to fill, and there won’t be one worth taking in the first couple of rounds in the draft. A pure pass rusher makes a huge difference in the play of the rest of the unit, because he causes fumbles and turnovers, and can make the other team more conservative on offense. We don’t have a single player in the top 50 in the NFL in sacks! Not surprisingly, we’ve only gotten 5 fumbles this year – lowest in the Niffle.

To date, Team Tangini has done a good job of plugging holes with solid, dependable guys, but we don’t yet have game-breakers on either side of the ball. If we’re going to keep building, we need to add an explosive playmaker on the defense.

]]> By: Harlan Lachman http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63055 Harlan Lachman Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:46:14 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63055 SD 99. I think DE could be added to the list of front 7 problems. Ellis has played horrifically this year and Kenyon Coleman wins the Kimo Von O award for the most stupid, wasteful and meaningless offseason move by Tangini. OLB is a disaster. ILB is a problem with a smaller NT. But DE is a position of need too. h SD 99. I think DE could be added to the list of front 7 problems. Ellis has played horrifically this year and Kenyon Coleman wins the Kimo Von O award for the most stupid, wasteful and meaningless offseason move by Tangini.

OLB is a disaster. ILB is a problem with a smaller NT. But DE is a position of need too.

h

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/10/salary-cap/#comment-63049 SackDance99 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:03:33 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3095#comment-63049 Here's an indication of the vacuum on the OL (and why I like Faneca, a similar "old school" player)...veteran leadership and killer instinct left this team when Mawae (not Kendall) was cut: The newspaper said that several Chargers told Merriman that Titans center Kevin Mawae and another player were involved in the play with intentions of hurting Merriman. Do we ever think that we'll see a quote like "Brick and another player were involved in the play with intentions of hurting Merriman?" By the way, please no "NT" with the first pick. The front 7 problems are at OLB and the 2nd ILB position...look how much better the run D is with just Harris replacing Vilma. Team Harris with Laurinaitis and the middle will be plugged. But, I think the Jets need a bona fide pass rusher, someone the opposing offense fears and someone who draws double teams. Suggs is the perfect player to fit that role...switch BT to LOLB and Suggs at ROLB with Harris and Laurinaitis in the middle and no one will be complaining about NT. Here’s an indication of the vacuum on the OL (and why I like Faneca, a similar “old school” player)…veteran leadership and killer instinct left this team when Mawae (not Kendall) was cut:

The newspaper said that several Chargers told Merriman that Titans center Kevin Mawae and another player were involved in the play with intentions of hurting Merriman.

Do we ever think that we’ll see a quote like “Brick and another player were involved in the play with intentions of hurting Merriman?”

By the way, please no “NT” with the first pick. The front 7 problems are at OLB and the 2nd ILB position…look how much better the run D is with just Harris replacing Vilma. Team Harris with Laurinaitis and the middle will be plugged. But, I think the Jets need a bona fide pass rusher, someone the opposing offense fears and someone who draws double teams. Suggs is the perfect player to fit that role…switch BT to LOLB and Suggs at ROLB with Harris and Laurinaitis in the middle and no one will be complaining about NT.

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