what is it with this insane man crush on herman edwards?

herm took over the same team in 2001 that wade phillips has taken in dallas this year. it was a no brainer that he went to the playoffs three times. cmon, kotite could have the same success herm did.

its what is always left behind that is the guage of a regimes success.

Due to that disaster of a season and the mismanagement of the cap, the Jets had to make a zillion player moves just to field a roster in 2006. Not only did they field a roster, but they made the freaking playoffs! And, they beat the Patriots so badly that the Pats had to change their home turf.

This season has certainly been a disappointment, but this is nothing like 2005. This team has had two stinkers all season and they were against the “best team in the history of the world” and the the best team in the NFL – not bad. Naturally, I won’t accept a 3-12 season next year, but seeing that the effort is there this year, I can’t be too upset.

Lastly, RAJ, your “self-inflicted” wounds theory is a mess. First, the drafts have actually been good – if Mangold and Ferguson didn’t have to block for the LG as well as their own positions, the line would be much better off. Letting Kendall go was a terrible move, but that doesn’t mean the drafts have been bad. Also, letting Mawae and Mr. Injury go was very necessary. Mangold is playing just fine at center and Abraham would have killed our cap while not playing, ever.

Really lastly, Herm can certainly be blamed for LJ’s injuries – you may remember that Johnson ran the ball 400+ times last year, a ridiculous number. Herm has a history of doing that which is probably why LaMont Jordan is in Oakland and why Curtis is no longer playing.

Anyway, I’m not anti-Herm, he found a way to lead the team to the playoffs 3 out of his first 4 seasons (he had luck, but you need that in the NFL). However, I Mangini has done well in my eyes and I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do in Year 3 when he and Tannenbaum are able to fill a few more holes that were left over from the previous regime.

The losing of the Pro Bowl RB *WAS* a self-inflicted wound. You expect injuries amongst veterans on a Herm-coached team because he persistently underuses his backups, which is why his teams suck so badly when the injuries do happen.

You can’t really compare the 4-12 Jets to the current team. That team was getting crushed every week in the second half, whereas these Jets have been competitive all year. I would put my mortgage on the 2007 Jets if there was any way they could take on the 2005 team from the end of that season. By the way, that team was supposed to contend for a superbowl.

Drop the agenda. Ferguson has been pretty good more often than not, against some decent players. Clemmons (sic) must be struggling because he played the “run and shoot” in college.

Thank god Mangini dumped Abraham. Another guy who didn’t play hard for Herm… “I think I’ll sit out this playoff game because I am a free agent”. The Jets have actually drafted well, but I don’t see how Mangini can get blame or credit for that anyway, because he doesn’t draft the players.

About half of the 11 starters the Jets lost to injury in 2005 simply quit on the team. Another example of players not playing hard for Herm despite the fact he somehow has that reputation.

Of course Mangini supporters can use injuries as an excuse. The starting QB was hurt in week one and the position (the most important on the team) has been in flux ever since. Despite that, the Jets almost won in 10 of the 12 games they have lost.

Mangini may ultimately fail to bring any success here, but I’m much happier with where we are now that where we were two years ago.

The fact of the matter is, this season is a carbon copy of last season with a few differences.

One-the overall health of the team, chad was healthy the entire year and there were no other key injuries across the board. this year chad went down early, coles and cotch have been hurt, vilma, clemens, justin miller, etc etc etc.

Two- The jets essentially played perfect football more often last year than they did this year. Every time there was a chance to make a big play, the catch was made, the tackle was broken, the ball squeezed out of the opposing rb’s hands. This year, every time there was a game changing opportunity, it has been botched(see Mccareins, Justin), I love revis, but how many INT’s have just bounced of his hands?

Finally- I didnt think it would be as big a deal as others going into the season, but in light of the first two points, the tougher schedule has had an impact.

Maybe I drank the Kool-aid, but I’m not going to call for a coaching staff/front office’s head after 2 seasons.