Comments on: Time for Some Math Word Problems … http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel Fox http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64740 Daniel Fox Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:21:27 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64740 As usual, R_in_CT gets it right. I loved finishing the season with a win (even though I was stuck in South Florida and couldn't watch the game). How could the Jets let Herm come into the Meadowlands and bet them? Also, now the Jets don't have to pay a top 5 pick salary and can save some extra cap room for FA's. Happy New Year everybody! As usual, R_in_CT gets it right. I loved finishing the season with a win (even though I was stuck in South Florida and couldn’t watch the game). How could the Jets let Herm come into the Meadowlands and bet them?

Also, now the Jets don’t have to pay a top 5 pick salary and can save some extra cap room for FA’s.

Happy New Year everybody!

]]> By: Rich http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64683 Rich Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:20:25 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64683 We did quite well last year with Revis at 14 and Harris in the second round. Leon Washington was a 4th rounder. You never know. R in CT is right--Reggie Bush was the next Gale Sayers. He's been just OK. We did quite well last year with Revis at 14 and Harris in the second round. Leon Washington was a 4th rounder. You never know. R in CT is right–Reggie Bush was the next Gale Sayers. He’s been just OK.

]]> By: droseatwork http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64680 droseatwork Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:01:43 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64680 I think that we need 3 or for years to judge the FO. Let's be honest, as long as the PATS have brady, I don't see many division titles in our future. I want to see a LONG TERM growth strategy. I think we get too caught up in the IMPROVEMENT NOW and we lose sight of the long term. We're getting younger and more talented. That is the first step. If we want to be in this for the long run we need to give the FO some time. I think that we need 3 or for years to judge the FO. Let’s be honest, as long as the PATS have brady, I don’t see many division titles in our future. I want to see a LONG TERM growth strategy. I think we get too caught up in the IMPROVEMENT NOW and we lose sight of the long term.
We’re getting younger and more talented. That is the first step. If we want to be in this for the long run we need to give the FO some time.

]]> By: steviek http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64676 steviek Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:56:49 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64676 As usual, I have to agree with R in CT. I looked at the drafts for the about the last 15 years. We should get a really good player at 6, maybe just not the big name player that people would feel better about. Problems seem to happen when teams reach at that spot for offensive skill positions (Lawrence Phillips for one), and sometimes a Pro Bowler falls into your lap (Richard Seymour for another). The top of the 2nd has also shown to be a great spot to great value at guard. I still have confidence in the Jets scouting and drafting. Reading alot of nervousness about the FO and I think that comes in part because it's almost impossible to get any idea what their plan is outside of, "we're looking at every position and trying to get better." Yeah, we know. When you don't really know what the plan is, it's tough to have confidence in it. If Chad goes, if Vilma goes, it seems they are committed to completely remaking the team from the Herm version. But it still all comes down to QB. Clemens has the athleticism and the commitment, but had trouble with reads, pocket presence and consistency in accuracy. Those last 3 have to do with experience. Will he get better with experience? No guarantees. I'd feel more comfortable if once in a while he made a play that made me think wow, he's going to be good. But that's tough to do with 1 healthy wr, no running game and almost zero protection play to play. With the cap room and picks they are in a good position to improve what I think is a mediocre roster, not a terrible one. If things go bad again next year, then they're open to serious criticism and possibly change. But even if next year was 6-10, I don't think I'd be ready to blow things up and start all over again with a new system. As usual, I have to agree with R in CT. I looked at the drafts for the about the last 15 years. We should get a really good player at 6, maybe just not the big name player that people would feel better about.
Problems seem to happen when teams reach at that spot for offensive skill positions (Lawrence Phillips for one), and sometimes a Pro Bowler falls into your lap (Richard Seymour for another). The top of the 2nd has also shown to be a great spot to great value at guard.
I still have confidence in the Jets scouting and drafting. Reading alot of nervousness about the FO and I think that comes in part because it’s almost impossible to get any idea what their plan is outside of, “we’re looking at every position and trying to get better.” Yeah, we know. When you don’t really know what the plan is, it’s tough to have confidence in it.
If Chad goes, if Vilma goes, it seems they are committed to completely remaking the team from the Herm version.
But it still all comes down to QB. Clemens has the athleticism and the commitment, but had trouble with reads, pocket presence and consistency in accuracy. Those last 3 have to do with experience. Will he get better with experience? No guarantees. I’d feel more comfortable if once in a while he made a play that made me think wow, he’s going to be good. But that’s tough to do with 1 healthy wr, no running game and almost zero protection play to play.
With the cap room and picks they are in a good position to improve what I think is a mediocre roster, not a terrible one. If things go bad again next year, then they’re open to serious criticism and possibly change. But even if next year was 6-10, I don’t think I’d be ready to blow things up and start all over again with a new system.

]]> By: Nikolas http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64675 Nikolas Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:56:03 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64675 TimNY, if you think that a meaningless win is so important, irrespective on how it affects your future, then why you think teams who are already in playoffs do not play their statrters? Why don't they play to win? Maybe because sometimes even a win can be too costly? And the couple of pegs in the draft you are talkin about , i am soory to inform you that they are not a couple in a linear sense. If you look at the value chart is the equivalent of an extra first rounder!!!! TimNY, if you think that a meaningless win is so important, irrespective on how it affects your future, then why you think teams who are already in playoffs do not play their statrters? Why don’t they play to win? Maybe because sometimes even a win can be too costly? And the couple of pegs in the draft you are talkin about , i am soory to inform you that they are not a couple in a linear sense. If you look at the value chart is the equivalent of an extra first rounder!!!!

]]> By: TimNY http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64673 TimNY Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:44:33 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64673 Seriously, people are bitching that we won a game and dropped a couple pegs in the draft? ridiculous beyond words. Seriously, people are bitching that we won a game and dropped a couple pegs in the draft? ridiculous beyond words.

]]> By: TimNY http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64670 TimNY Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:24:34 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64670 absolutely. absolutely.

]]> By: R in CT http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64668 R in CT Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:15:15 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64668 I seem to be in the minority here, but I was HAPPY THAT THE JETS WON yesterday. I could care less about draft positions -- the draft, at best, is a crap shoot. Think about how everyone was going crazy about Reggie Bush a few years ago ("he's a once-in-a-lifetime player" "can't miss" etc.) -- he's been okay, not the be-all, end-all. Same now with McFadden. Next year, it'll be someone else. Look, I love draft day as much as the next guy, but personally, I am much happier with a win over Harm yesterday than picking three slots earlier and paying extra millions to a player who has never played a down in the NFL and may or may not be "great." (Or may not even pan out at all -- see the <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-worstfirstroundpicks042407&prov=yhoo&type=lgns" rel="nofollow">huge list of 1st-round busts</a>) I don't care if it's a lost season or "it doesn't matter." I may not agree with Harm on a lot of things, but he was right when he said, "You play to win the game." I jumped up a cheered when Nugent's kick went through the second time -- because my team had won! And to me, that's what it's about. [jumps off soap box and back into the fray0 I seem to be in the minority here, but I was HAPPY THAT THE JETS WON yesterday. I could care less about draft positions — the draft, at best, is a crap shoot. Think about how everyone was going crazy about Reggie Bush a few years ago (“he’s a once-in-a-lifetime player” “can’t miss” etc.) — he’s been okay, not the be-all, end-all. Same now with McFadden. Next year, it’ll be someone else.

Look, I love draft day as much as the next guy, but personally, I am much happier with a win over Harm yesterday than picking three slots earlier and paying extra millions to a player who has never played a down in the NFL and may or may not be “great.” (Or may not even pan out at all — see the huge list of 1st-round busts)

I don’t care if it’s a lost season or “it doesn’t matter.” I may not agree with Harm on a lot of things, but he was right when he said, “You play to win the game.” I jumped up a cheered when Nugent’s kick went through the second time — because my team had won! And to me, that’s what it’s about.

[jumps off soap box and back into the fray0

]]> By: RK http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64666 RK Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:04:20 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64666 Yeah I just did the math for the millionth time, the Jets opponents have 134 Wins and the the other three have 132. So they Jets get the 6th. If Indy had come last night it would have helped but they are definately the 6th unfortunately. Never has a meaningless end of the year victory meant so much Yeah I just did the math for the millionth time, the Jets opponents have 134 Wins and the the other three have 132. So they Jets get the 6th.

If Indy had come last night it would have helped but they are definately the 6th unfortunately. Never has a meaningless end of the year victory meant so much

]]> By: droseatwork http://www.thejetsblog.com/2007/12/31/time-for-some-math-word-problems/#comment-64665 droseatwork Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:04:08 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3203#comment-64665 I am, I was just commenting on the fact that there is a huge controversy over where we're picking. You need to simma down Keif I am, I was just commenting on the fact that there is a huge controversy over where we’re picking.

You need to simma down Keif

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