Comments on: Audible: The Quarterbacks for 2008 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alex http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67328 Alex Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:19:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67328 Sorry did not complete the sentence I don’t really believe there is anyone available that just makes the idea of giving Kellen an opportunity with a good line (which means an improved running game) and a deep threat receiver not worthwhile. Sorry did not complete the sentence

I don’t really believe there is anyone available that just makes the idea of giving Kellen an opportunity with a good line (which means an improved running game) and a deep threat receiver not worthwhile.

]]> By: Alex http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67327 Alex Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:17:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67327 to sum up the position, Our quarterbacks are very likeable team leaders who sucked this season... Chad is a smart and precise quarterback without any arm strength Kellen has some arm strength, don't know if I saw much of anything else, but given the circumstances I don't know if the young quarterback had the opportunity to show us anything else. Time will not improve Chad's arm strength, cornerbacks are still going to jump his routes. I like Chad, I got an autographed football and everything, but it is time to shop him and see what we can get. Another year on the bench may lower his trade value. I don't really believe there is anyone available that just makes the idea of giving Kellen an opportunity with a good line (which means an improved running game) and a deep threat receiver. I am just not as hyped on Matt Ryan. Pick-up Chad Henne or Flacco (might have misspelled his name) in a later round and let him sit on the bench and learn while you give Kellen his opportunity. to sum up the position, Our quarterbacks are very likeable team leaders who sucked this season…

Chad is a smart and precise quarterback without any arm strength

Kellen has some arm strength, don’t know if I saw much of anything else, but given the circumstances I don’t know if the young quarterback had the opportunity to show us anything else.

Time will not improve Chad’s arm strength, cornerbacks are still going to jump his routes. I like Chad, I got an autographed football and everything, but it is time to shop him and see what we can get. Another year on the bench may lower his trade value.

I don’t really believe there is anyone available that just makes the idea of giving Kellen an opportunity with a good line (which means an improved running game) and a deep threat receiver. I am just not as hyped on Matt Ryan. Pick-up Chad Henne or Flacco (might have misspelled his name) in a later round
and let him sit on the bench and learn while you give Kellen his opportunity.

]]> By: pound4pound http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67325 pound4pound Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:09:13 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67325 I don't understand the argument that we should keep Chad so we have a quality backup. First of all, Chad has made it clear he wants to have a chance to start. Either we give him that chance, and yet again have two totally different styles of QB that our offense has to get used to, and also never find out if KC can develop into a star. Or, we relegate Chad to the bench full-time when 3-5 teams still would value him as a starting candidate. So, we decrease his value while we could still trade him for significant assets. Neither path makes much sense to me. The biggest problem I have is exactly what Eric said. I want to win a Super Bowl, not just sneak into the playoffs so we can get pounded by 20 points by an elite team. Given how strong the top 4-5 teams in the AFC are, it's going to take another couple of years for us to build to that level - by which point Chad will be too old to possibly be the guy leading us. Why not get some value for him now? Yes, Chad might be a better QB than KC in 2008, but if KC gets injured, how much is Chad going to help us when he steps in? So we can maybe go 6-10 instead of 5-11? Who cares? I don’t understand the argument that we should keep Chad so we have a quality backup. First of all, Chad has made it clear he wants to have a chance to start. Either we give him that chance, and yet again have two totally different styles of QB that our offense has to get used to, and also never find out if KC can develop into a star. Or, we relegate Chad to the bench full-time when 3-5 teams still would value him as a starting candidate. So, we decrease his value while we could still trade him for significant assets. Neither path makes much sense to me.

The biggest problem I have is exactly what Eric said. I want to win a Super Bowl, not just sneak into the playoffs so we can get pounded by 20 points by an elite team. Given how strong the top 4-5 teams in the AFC are, it’s going to take another couple of years for us to build to that level – by which point Chad will be too old to possibly be the guy leading us. Why not get some value for him now? Yes, Chad might be a better QB than KC in 2008, but if KC gets injured, how much is Chad going to help us when he steps in? So we can maybe go 6-10 instead of 5-11? Who cares?

]]> By: chris http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67284 chris Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:11:27 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67284 i think the jets should keep both. no better back up then pennington. clemens did show what he can do when he has time to throw (i.e. pittsburgh) improve the line i believe (however boring that sounds) and get us to where we belong, the big one. go jets!!!! i think the jets should keep both. no better back up then pennington. clemens did show what he can do when he has time to throw (i.e. pittsburgh) improve the line i believe (however boring that sounds) and get us to where we belong, the big one. go jets!!!!

]]> By: muff http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67219 muff Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:00:10 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67219 the problem with eric from morrisania's argument is you have to make the playoffs in order to get too the SB. the problem with eric from morrisania’s argument is you have to make the playoffs in order to get too the SB.

]]> By: Pete http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67218 Pete Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:58:07 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67218 Eric, you're posts are right on. You cite excellent facts and truths. None of the Chad backers have addressed any of the issues you raised. Other than to simply say they believe Chad is good. Regardless, all of this is out of our hands and as always we just have to hope that whatever decisions the team makes, they are the right ones. It'll be so great one day when we do win the SB again and all of us will be enjoying it, and forgetting about past failures. Eric, you’re posts are right on. You cite excellent facts and truths. None of the Chad backers have addressed any of the issues you raised. Other than to simply say they believe Chad is good. Regardless, all of this is out of our hands and as always we just have to hope that whatever decisions the team makes, they are the right ones. It’ll be so great one day when we do win the SB again and all of us will be enjoying it, and forgetting about past failures.

]]> By: Harvlis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67180 Harvlis Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:54:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67180 I agree with Nikolas. I agree with Nikolas.

]]> By: jvsvn http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67177 jvsvn Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:48:35 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67177 I just wanted to add that I think that Man and Tan are pretty smart and have probably learned their lesson. From the two drafts they've run, they are obviously pretty good talent evaluators. They thought KC had the skills to be a franchise QB. Time to give him the keys and see what he can do in an offense built from day one around his skill set. That was obviously the plan from the begining. I think that KC has shown enough in his limited action to stick to the plan. Honestly, does anyone think that next season, not to mention the future of the franchise, rests on whether Chad, Rex Grossman, or whoever, is the backup QB? Trade Chad and Vilma now for the best deals you can get and use those assets, probably picks, to plug the known holes at OT, DL, etc. A few extra picks in rounds 3, 4, or 5 can be very useful. Look at what they did with mid-round picks last year to manuever to bring in blue chip talent for key positions. We need more of that and less worrying about giving one last shot to holdovers from the last regime. I know that's not sentimental but this is the NFL. Chad we love you but it's time to move on (for your good as well as ours). I just wanted to add that I think that Man and Tan are pretty smart and have probably learned their lesson. From the two drafts they’ve run, they are obviously pretty good talent evaluators. They thought KC had the skills to be a franchise QB. Time to give him the keys and see what he can do in an offense built from day one around his skill set. That was obviously the plan from the begining. I think that KC has shown enough in his limited action to stick to the plan. Honestly, does anyone think that next season, not to mention the future of the franchise, rests on whether Chad, Rex Grossman, or whoever, is the backup QB? Trade Chad and Vilma now for the best deals you can get and use those assets, probably picks, to plug the known holes at OT, DL, etc. A few extra picks in rounds 3, 4, or 5 can be very useful. Look at what they did with mid-round picks last year to manuever to bring in blue chip talent for key positions. We need more of that and less worrying about giving one last shot to holdovers from the last regime. I know that’s not sentimental but this is the NFL. Chad we love you but it’s time to move on (for your good as well as ours).

]]> By: jvsvn http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67175 jvsvn Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:26:43 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67175 I can't see any argument for keeping Chad on the team. Chad's been a pro's pro and deserves everyones respect but he clearly is not the future of the franchise at this point. If you look at the way they went after both KC and David Harris it seems clear that the Man and Tan regime did not regard either Vilma or Chad as the type of players that best fit the system they wanted to run on either side of the ball. Given that fact, they should have traded both Chad and Vilma last offseason when their value was at their highest. In retrospect, I think the surprising success of 2006 may actually have been a setback. It made them think that maybe, just maybe, they could succeed in the short term AND rebuild at the same time. That almost never works. Look at what Parcells does when he takes over a team. If a player or coach fits his philosophy, then fine. If not, they're gone immediately. To me, the 2007 Jets were a result of the team being run by two very young guys who, though talented, didn't completely trust their own instincts with respect to the direction of the team. I can’t see any argument for keeping Chad on the team. Chad’s been a pro’s pro and deserves everyones respect but he clearly is not the future of the franchise at this point. If you look at the way they went after both KC and David Harris it seems clear that the Man and Tan regime did not regard either Vilma or Chad as the type of players that best fit the system they wanted to run on either side of the ball. Given that fact, they should have traded both Chad and Vilma last offseason when their value was at their highest. In retrospect, I think the surprising success of 2006 may actually have been a setback. It made them think that maybe, just maybe, they could succeed in the short term AND rebuild at the same time. That almost never works. Look at what Parcells does when he takes over a team. If a player or coach fits his philosophy, then fine. If not, they’re gone immediately. To me, the 2007 Jets were a result of the team being run by two very young guys who, though talented, didn’t completely trust their own instincts with respect to the direction of the team.

]]> By: Nikolas http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/01/24/audible-the-quarterbacks-for-2008/#comment-67174 Nikolas Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:22:53 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3314#comment-67174 Eric from Morrisania... are you from the Morrisania or New England's Moronia. I bet you are from the Moronia.... Eric from Morrisania… are you from the Morrisania or New England’s Moronia. I bet you are from the Moronia….

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