Comments on: Free Agent Focu$: A$ante $amuel http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:15:44 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: sth11 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70108 sth11 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:32:03 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70108 The point I was trying to make was that we have much larger issues on the lines. We need depth, and fast. Picking up a FA like Samuels would be like putting a band-aid on a knife wound. You can't justify adding a top-tier FA like Samuels to the DB corps when our d-line is in shambles. The Giants d-line has already proved this. I can see going after Gay, because he is a solid FA who would add depth but not at the cost of preventing us from addressing the true issues of this team. You are definitely right in that stats can be misleading, and I am hardly a stat-hound, but it doesnt change the fact that our biggest problem is run defense. If the game is all about ball control, and we cant stop the run, then wouldn't that prove my point that adding a corner like Samuels would be counterproductive, because it draws capspace away from positions that need to be addressed(OLB/DE, NT) much more than a corner. Adding one solid player to each of these positions (much easier said than done) will address both the run and pass defenses. If teams run the ball all over us and have very little need to pass in order to win, what point does signing the biggest FA corner this year do for us? Nothing!, except waste money that could be spread around to the positions that truly need to be upgraded. The point I was trying to make was that we have much larger issues on the lines. We need depth, and fast. Picking up a FA like Samuels would be like putting a band-aid on a knife wound. You can’t justify adding a top-tier FA like Samuels to the DB corps when our d-line is in shambles. The Giants d-line has already proved this. I can see going after Gay, because he is a solid FA who would add depth but not at the cost of preventing us from addressing the true issues of this team.

You are definitely right in that stats can be misleading, and I am hardly a stat-hound, but it doesnt change the fact that our biggest problem is run defense. If the game is all about ball control, and we cant stop the run, then wouldn’t that prove my point that adding a corner like Samuels would be counterproductive, because it draws capspace away from positions that need to be addressed(OLB/DE, NT) much more than a corner. Adding one solid player to each of these positions (much easier said than done) will address both the run and pass defenses.

If teams run the ball all over us and have very little need to pass in order to win, what point does signing the biggest FA corner this year do for us? Nothing!, except waste money that could be spread around to the positions that truly need to be upgraded.

]]> By: pound4pound http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70072 pound4pound Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:55:29 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70072 You nailed it on the head, KJ. We were 9th in yards per game, but 24th in yards per attempt, and 25th in sacks. Teams simply didn't have to pass against us very much late in games, partly because they had so much success early in games. You nailed it on the head, KJ. We were 9th in yards per game, but 24th in yards per attempt, and 25th in sacks. Teams simply didn’t have to pass against us very much late in games, partly because they had so much success early in games.

]]> By: KJ http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70070 KJ Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:27:24 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70070 sth11, Stats can be misleading. That only shows that teams ran the ball on us freely. Why pass the ball if you're ahead, and have success running the ball? The game is all about ball control. If you watch the games, our pass-D wasn't good. sth11,

Stats can be misleading. That only shows that teams ran the ball on us freely. Why pass the ball if you’re ahead, and have success running the ball?

The game is all about ball control. If you watch the games, our pass-D wasn’t good.

]]> By: sth11 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70050 sth11 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:44:34 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70050 The jets were 9th in pass defense last year, 3 spots ahead of the SB champion Giants(12th) and only 2 spots behind NE(7th). And all without any semblance of a pass rush. Contrastingly, we were 29th in run defense last year. You figure it out. The jets were 9th in pass defense last year, 3 spots ahead of the SB champion Giants(12th) and only 2 spots behind NE(7th). And all without any semblance of a pass rush. Contrastingly, we were 29th in run defense last year. You figure it out.

]]> By: GlockNSoul http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70042 GlockNSoul Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:26:56 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70042 From the poicture, judging by the looks in their eyes, it might be time to get a room :< Caption from Asante: "Yeah baby !" From the poicture, judging by the looks in their eyes, it might be time to get a room :<

Caption from Asante: “Yeah baby !”

]]> By: JP http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70040 JP Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:09:40 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70040 Remember that Mangini knows both Samuel and Gay well, he was the defensive backs coach in NE if I recall correctly. Given this, I'm willing to trust his judgment of which one to go with; I do expect them to sign one of them on or close to the start of the FA period. Remember that Mangini knows both Samuel and Gay well, he was the defensive backs coach in NE if I recall correctly. Given this, I’m willing to trust his judgment of which one to go with; I do expect them to sign one of them on or close to the start of the FA period.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70036 Jeff Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:34:23 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70036 Asante Samuel is great in zone coverage, a perfect fit for a cover-2 scheme. However he is overrated, I feel Revis will be 2x better than him. i would rather sign a PB guard to a big contract than to a CB. At least signing a guard can help the run and pass game. If I was Mangini I would steer clear of Samuel, we already have Rhodes and Revis Asante Samuel is great in zone coverage, a perfect fit for a cover-2 scheme. However he is overrated, I feel Revis will be 2x better than him. i would rather sign a PB guard to a big contract than to a CB. At least signing a guard can help the run and pass game.

If I was Mangini I would steer clear of Samuel, we already have Rhodes and Revis

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70034 Bent Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:29:21 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70034 Personally, I'm sick of NOT being patient. Let's do this right. Personally, I’m sick of NOT being patient.

Let’s do this right.

]]> By: The NYC Parking Expert http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70032 The NYC Parking Expert Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:56:13 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70032 I agree with most of what Garrett wrote, except the thing about "we need to be in or close to a superbowl in the next 2 years". There are 32 teams in the league - all of them want to be in or close to the SB every year but each year, only 4 are close. Should every team fire their gm & coach every 3 years if they don't make it to the championship game? There is so much luck involved and as much as I want it, the truth is that we don't deserve it any more than anyone else, simply by the fact that we are in NY. People talk about a curse, but we aren't the only team not to win a SB in a long time and there are quite a few teams that have never won it. I'm sick of being patient, too, but the truth is, the only shot we've got is to have some stability. Fire these guys, bring in a new coach & GM & what do you have: another 5 year plan. As much as we all diss herm, he was doing pretty good until '05 and not much of that was his fault. That many injuries on any team will bring a 4-12 record. He does stink in KC - maybe the team he inherited wasn't as good as most thought. He's certainly had QB issues. I say stick with Tangini for at least another 3 years and if the team is showing improvement, stay with them longer. I agree with most of what Garrett wrote, except the thing about “we need to be in or close to a superbowl in the next 2 years”. There are 32 teams in the league – all of them want to be in or close to the SB every year but each year, only 4 are close. Should every team fire their gm & coach every 3 years if they don’t make it to the championship game? There is so much luck involved and as much as I want it, the truth is that we don’t deserve it any more than anyone else, simply by the fact that we are in NY. People talk about a curse, but we aren’t the only team not to win a SB in a long time and there are quite a few teams that have never won it. I’m sick of being patient, too, but the truth is, the only shot we’ve got is to have some stability. Fire these guys, bring in a new coach & GM & what do you have: another 5 year plan. As much as we all diss herm, he was doing pretty good until ‘05 and not much of that was his fault. That many injuries on any team will bring a 4-12 record. He does stink in KC – maybe the team he inherited wasn’t as good as most thought. He’s certainly had QB issues. I say stick with Tangini for at least another 3 years and if the team is showing improvement, stay with them longer.

]]> By: garrett http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/22/free-agent-focu-aante-amuel/comment-page-1/#comment-70029 garrett Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:26:53 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3478#comment-70029 The Jets definitely need to get a move on signing these guys or else i am afraid of another 4-12 season. We have so many needs and we need to act fast. Once free agency starts. Mangini and Tannabaum better start signing like crazy. We need OL, WR, OLB, CB, and that Wide out has to be a big play maker like Chad Johnson. This is just like the 2005 season, the team is a mess and we have yet another quarterback controversy. I think that if the Jets aren't close or in a superbowl within the next 2 years Mangini and Tannabaum have to go because i can't stand this "well maybe but we still don't know" stuff. They know as good we do that we need a good Corner to go with Revis and a big WR with play making ability. We are under the cap. I don't really want to trade Vilma but if we have to. We need to RESIGN Rhodes and L. Coles or otherwise we'll have a repeat of Pete Kendall. I mean, I just wish the Jets would get something right and win a Super bowl! The Jets definitely need to get a move on signing these guys or else i am afraid of another 4-12 season. We have so many needs and we need to act fast. Once free agency starts. Mangini and Tannabaum better start signing like crazy. We need OL, WR, OLB, CB, and that Wide out has to be a big play maker like Chad Johnson. This is just like the 2005 season, the team is a mess and we have yet another quarterback controversy. I think that if the Jets aren’t close or in a superbowl within the next 2 years Mangini and Tannabaum have to go because i can’t stand this “well maybe but we still don’t know” stuff. They know as good we do that we need a good Corner to go with Revis and a big WR with play making ability. We are under the cap. I don’t really want to trade Vilma but if we have to. We need to RESIGN Rhodes and L. Coles or otherwise we’ll have a repeat of Pete Kendall. I mean, I just wish the Jets would get something right and win a Super bowl!

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