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	<title>Comments on: Jets Cut Three: WR Justin McCareins, CB Andre Dyson, OG Adrien Clarke</title>
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		<title>By: pound4pound</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/02/26/jets-cut-three-wr-justin-mccareins-cb-andre-dyson-og-adrien-clarke/#comment-70455</link>
		<dc:creator>pound4pound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harlan, I agree that Flozell is too old to help us in a couple of years when we&#039;re hopefully contending, but Faneca should have 4-5 good years left. He&#039;s in much better shape than Flozell. His run blocking is still top-notch, and while he&#039;s lost a half-step in pass protection, he would be next to 2 guys with uncommon agility and quickness in Brick and Mangold.

I think the other big benefit of Faneca beyond run blocking is that he&#039;s a tough SOB and a smart competitor. I&#039;d love to see his intensity rub off on the rest of our line. If we can get him and still have money for a mid-tier FA like Gay and for our draft picks, I&#039;m all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlan, I agree that Flozell is too old to help us in a couple of years when we&#8217;re hopefully contending, but Faneca should have 4-5 good years left. He&#8217;s in much better shape than Flozell. His run blocking is still top-notch, and while he&#8217;s lost a half-step in pass protection, he would be next to 2 guys with uncommon agility and quickness in Brick and Mangold.</p>
<p>I think the other big benefit of Faneca beyond run blocking is that he&#8217;s a tough SOB and a smart competitor. I&#8217;d love to see his intensity rub off on the rest of our line. If we can get him and still have money for a mid-tier FA like Gay and for our draft picks, I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: thejetsblog.com &#187; Film Room: Justin&#8217;s Bad Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>thejetsblog.com &#187; Film Room: Justin&#8217;s Bad Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comments Rambo on Vilma Trade Watch: New Orleans or Jacksonville?muff on Jets Cut Three: WR Justin McCareins, CB Andre Dyson, OG Adrien Clarkegreepills on Jets Re-Sign Brad KassellIlan on News: Vernon Gholston Clocks an (Unofficial) 4.64 in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: muff</title>
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		<dc:creator>muff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mccarriens and david barrett were both players that were signed as an overraction to losing the big fish.  coles left and we needed something to make a big splash.  winfeilds wife chose minnasota over long island, so our guys over paid for david barrett.

mccarriens though did play with heart. when he wasn&#039;t on the feild, he was chomping to do anything on special teams, and as i remember made a few good plays.  so not quite as we expected and missed what could have ben some key plays would be a fair asessment  rather than what its being made out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mccarriens and david barrett were both players that were signed as an overraction to losing the big fish.  coles left and we needed something to make a big splash.  winfeilds wife chose minnasota over long island, so our guys over paid for david barrett.</p>
<p>mccarriens though did play with heart. when he wasn&#8217;t on the feild, he was chomping to do anything on special teams, and as i remember made a few good plays.  so not quite as we expected and missed what could have ben some key plays would be a fair asessment  rather than what its being made out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Harlan. I&#039;d like to see the Jets make a push for Smiley assuming they think his shoulders will not be an issue. Coming off of an injury, he may come relatively cheaply for a guy who could have a lot of value as a drive-blocking guard.

On another note, the Detroit News is reporting that the Lions are getting close to making a deal that would send Shaun Rogers to Denver. This might kill two options for the Jets as Rogers would be in Denver and Denver would have gotten the DT they are looking for. This might open up the Jets to make a play for Roy Williams if Detroit is still interested in Vilma. Somehow, I don&#039;t think the Jets FO was ever really interested in Rogers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Harlan. I&#8217;d like to see the Jets make a push for Smiley assuming they think his shoulders will not be an issue. Coming off of an injury, he may come relatively cheaply for a guy who could have a lot of value as a drive-blocking guard.</p>
<p>On another note, the Detroit News is reporting that the Lions are getting close to making a deal that would send Shaun Rogers to Denver. This might kill two options for the Jets as Rogers would be in Denver and Denver would have gotten the DT they are looking for. This might open up the Jets to make a play for Roy Williams if Detroit is still interested in Vilma. Somehow, I don&#8217;t think the Jets FO was ever really interested in Rogers.</p>
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		<title>By: R in CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>R in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, harlan knows how to take care of bidness!

Signing aging big-name players during a rebuilding phase only keeps the bandwagon fans and media happy, but often does little to fix the team long-term. I&#039;m encouraged that this FO seems to ignore what the media stirs a certain element of the fan base into thinking and has taken its lumps in the process. Hopefully now that will lead to long-term success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, harlan knows how to take care of bidness!</p>
<p>Signing aging big-name players during a rebuilding phase only keeps the bandwagon fans and media happy, but often does little to fix the team long-term. I&#8217;m encouraged that this FO seems to ignore what the media stirs a certain element of the fan base into thinking and has taken its lumps in the process. Hopefully now that will lead to long-term success.</p>
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		<title>By: Harlan Lachman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harlan Lachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bassett, could you explain to me the fascination with overpaying aging, declining skills, name players as opposed to signing younger players with more upside? I hope you are completely wrong when you write:

&quot;the Jets sound primed to make a push for a Guard like Alan Faneca or a Tackle like Flozell Adams come Friday &quot;

Players like Justin Smiley and Jake Scott (or both so we can cut Moore) will almost certainly be around to contribute longer and better than Faneca or Adams. Plus, there are probably better RT at our second pick in the draft than Adams (at this point in his career) or Max Starks. 

Looking at the current FA crop and draft, I think the best moves would be to sign one or two younger guards and a CB (probably Gay over Samuel). Score a RT with our second pick and maybe a safety in the draft or if one comes free in FA, and we will be set for the next five years on the OL and DBs. 

The only other FA I would be interested in is a stud younger WR if is available for trade or is a salary cap casualty. So saving money for that would be fine too. We could then trade or cut Coles and let him find out his true market value.

While our pass rush and rush D will still be inept, no one with half a brain thinks we will be competing with the Colts or Pats after only one off season anyway.

harlan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bassett, could you explain to me the fascination with overpaying aging, declining skills, name players as opposed to signing younger players with more upside? I hope you are completely wrong when you write:</p>
<p>&#8220;the Jets sound primed to make a push for a Guard like Alan Faneca or a Tackle like Flozell Adams come Friday &#8221;</p>
<p>Players like Justin Smiley and Jake Scott (or both so we can cut Moore) will almost certainly be around to contribute longer and better than Faneca or Adams. Plus, there are probably better RT at our second pick in the draft than Adams (at this point in his career) or Max Starks. </p>
<p>Looking at the current FA crop and draft, I think the best moves would be to sign one or two younger guards and a CB (probably Gay over Samuel). Score a RT with our second pick and maybe a safety in the draft or if one comes free in FA, and we will be set for the next five years on the OL and DBs. </p>
<p>The only other FA I would be interested in is a stud younger WR if is available for trade or is a salary cap casualty. So saving money for that would be fine too. We could then trade or cut Coles and let him find out his true market value.</p>
<p>While our pass rush and rush D will still be inept, no one with half a brain thinks we will be competing with the Colts or Pats after only one off season anyway.</p>
<p>harlan</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now they only have about 35 more players to cut, and then we will be a good team, this roster has very little to be optomistic about. Besides L Washington, T Jones, Mangold, Ferguson, Rhodes, Harris, and Revis who would you really be sad to see go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now they only have about 35 more players to cut, and then we will be a good team, this roster has very little to be optomistic about. Besides L Washington, T Jones, Mangold, Ferguson, Rhodes, Harris, and Revis who would you really be sad to see go?</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was made very happy by the cutting of McCareins</description>
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		<title>By: Doctor K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KC it takes at least 3-4 years before a previous regime&#039;s mess is finally cleaned up completely.  I think Year 3 of the Mangini Era will be it&#039;s true defining point in where this franchise is going.  Certainly we have mixed results (great draft, poor FA signings, disgruntled employee fiasco and poor subsequent replacement), but this year is huge in terms of player chemistry and team culture.  The presure is on Mike and Eric.  Let&#039;s hope they can come through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KC it takes at least 3-4 years before a previous regime&#8217;s mess is finally cleaned up completely.  I think Year 3 of the Mangini Era will be it&#8217;s true defining point in where this franchise is going.  Certainly we have mixed results (great draft, poor FA signings, disgruntled employee fiasco and poor subsequent replacement), but this year is huge in terms of player chemistry and team culture.  The presure is on Mike and Eric.  Let&#8217;s hope they can come through.</p>
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		<title>By: Bent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, Dyson did NOT let the door hit him on his way out.  &quot;Now you know how Plaxico Burress feels&quot; said the door.

As for McCareins, &quot;had a bad day&quot; doesn&#039;t quite do it.  Has anyone ever done a song called &quot;had a bad career&quot;.  &quot;Oops, I did it again&quot; might be more appropriate.  Or &quot;Born Slippy&quot;.  Or &quot;Can&#039;t Hold On&quot;.  Or the little known cult classic &quot;I don&#039;t care if he has offered to contribute to special teams, Eric, the guy couldn&#039;t catch a cold (except in preseason)&quot;.  And Matt - I can recall several examples of where J-Mac didn&#039;t contest an underthrown pass, leading to an interception, which constitutes a lack of heart in my book.

Oh, and as bad as Barrett is (although he bizarrely always seems to do better when matched up with someone good), he&#039;s still better than Justin Miller in my book.  But, since you asked, I calculate that the cap hit on Barrett is less than his salary, so the Jets would save $2-3m by cutting him.  (Cutting Miller has hardly any effect on the cap).

What are the chances of any of these three being on a roster come opening day?  For Clarke, I would say no chance whatsoever, but the others might stick somewhere with a lower salary and the hope that &quot;a change of scenery will do them good&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Dyson did NOT let the door hit him on his way out.  &#8220;Now you know how Plaxico Burress feels&#8221; said the door.</p>
<p>As for McCareins, &#8220;had a bad day&#8221; doesn&#8217;t quite do it.  Has anyone ever done a song called &#8220;had a bad career&#8221;.  &#8220;Oops, I did it again&#8221; might be more appropriate.  Or &#8220;Born Slippy&#8221;.  Or &#8220;Can&#8217;t Hold On&#8221;.  Or the little known cult classic &#8220;I don&#8217;t care if he has offered to contribute to special teams, Eric, the guy couldn&#8217;t catch a cold (except in preseason)&#8221;.  And Matt &#8211; I can recall several examples of where J-Mac didn&#8217;t contest an underthrown pass, leading to an interception, which constitutes a lack of heart in my book.</p>
<p>Oh, and as bad as Barrett is (although he bizarrely always seems to do better when matched up with someone good), he&#8217;s still better than Justin Miller in my book.  But, since you asked, I calculate that the cap hit on Barrett is less than his salary, so the Jets would save $2-3m by cutting him.  (Cutting Miller has hardly any effect on the cap).</p>
<p>What are the chances of any of these three being on a roster come opening day?  For Clarke, I would say no chance whatsoever, but the others might stick somewhere with a lower salary and the hope that &#8220;a change of scenery will do them good&#8221;.</p>
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