The Minute I Can’t Get Back from PK
PK thinks that the atmosphere could be downright electric at Radio City Sunday April 25th … talking about the possibility of teams trading up and including the Jets in the mix … on page two, the Guru of Guinness drops his mockable draft:
6. New York Jets. Michigan OT Jake Long. You and I and everyone else who does these things believe there’s no way Long lasts ’til number six. And he probably won’t. But funny things happen in unpredictable drafts like this one.
The benefit for the Jets: If D’Brickashaw Ferguson continues to be a C-plus left tackle, Long could play the right side this year, then the coaches could decide who’d be the best left tackle in 2009. But here’s my view if Ryan’s there: The Jets will hold an auction and try to get two first-day picks for this slot.
So, remind me, if Long isn’t lasting until #6 … WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME?
Number one, I guarantee PK will be talking about the marked improvement of D’Brick this season. Not everyone can get drafted to the Chargers like Marcus McNeil did the same year as D’Brick.
Numbe two, if Jake Long lasts until the sixth pick of the draft, I will chug a Guinness and then chase it with whatever cold Starbuck’s beverage Mr. King has procured wood on most recently.
21 Responses to The Minute I Can’t Get Back from PK
-
SackDance99 says:
Jake Long, sure. The Jets should try to have the most expensive OL of all-time by such a wide margin that the record will never be broken. What’s great about this pick is that the Jets will pay Jake Faneca-money to sit his rookie season. Or, the Jets will move Woody to RG, a position he failed at with Detroit, start Jake at RT and cut Brandon Moore, who may have been the best of the OL last season. I love this pick. It both bloats the payroll and makes the OL worse, while alienating Brick, who doesn’t seem the type to respond to “tough love.” Just rock solid analysis by PK, all he needs is the big red nose and floppy shoes to prove he’s really a clown.
-
jerry says:
Someone should tell Peter King that the Jets don’t have the 67th pick anymore.
-
18andOne says:
I would take Jake Long in a heartbeat if he’s available. Sure, RT isn’t the biggest need right now, but if your going to take the best player available then you have to take him at #6 if he’s there. He’s a mauler and would instantly make the Jets one of the best running teams in the league. Our line would be so good, Curtis Martin might unretire and run for 2,000 yards. Not to mention our qb could have all day in the pocket.
-
18andOne, who plays RG? What happens to Woody? And, what do you do with Brick? How will the Jets manage the cap? Drafting Jake Long would hamstring this franchise, but the Jets sure would have a nice OL…no money for WR, QB, DE/OLB or to extend Rhodes, etc….but a real nice OL. If they do this, let’s all pray that 2009 is uncapped!!!
Don’t get me wrong, I like Jake, he’s a real solid RT candidate, but drafting an RT this high is, to me, a drafting sin. I’d rather draft Kenny Phillips, and drafting a safety this high is another draft sin, but to me safety is more of a skill position than RT, which is a dime a dozen position, especially in this draft.
-
I read King’s mock this morning and thought the same. Maybe, Starbucks should print a disclaimer: Beware of Bassetts scortching hot comments… If 3rd degree burns occure consult a shrink to learn why (King) writes this hype?
Yet, his point is (Thanks to our overtime victory over Herm “You Play To Win The Game” Edwards), we now have to hope and pray one of the top five teams selects a quarterback and another takes a chance on Glenn Dorsey’s medical records.
In order for an elite prospect to fall. If Ryan falls to Jets, they trade down. Otherwise, they take another cornerback.
This sucks. I want Vernon!!!
-
The Ed(itor) says:
It just proves that SI knows nothing about what the JETS have done in the off season and what their needs are going into the draft. I don’t see jake long being there at 6 and if he is, I see the JETS trading down with someome that really wants him.
-
Ilan says:
King also has the Pats taking Sedrick Ellis. I want some of what he’s smoking.
-
Sack, I don’t understand what your saying. According to your math they can afford to draft McFadden or Gholston, but not J. Long? Either way your paying #6 pick money. If they draft Al Bundy, they still have to pay #6 pick money, even if he drives a crappy dodge. Woody and Moore are expendable. Fanaca won’t be around forever, and Brick still has plenty of questions to answer. If your going BPA you would have to draft Long. Sure, it makes you spend more then you like for linemen, but look what happen to the Jets when they didn’t spend money on the o-line.
-
will says:
IMO King is right about Ferguson, which is why drafting Jake Long (or even Ryan Clady) makes sense for the Jets if they cant trade down. And trading down is gonna be tough because if Jake Long is there at #6 then teams have figured out that there may be more value at Tackle later in the round (Williams, Otah, Cherlious, etc).
-
Rocky says:
If both McFadden and Gholston are gone then we gotta get a CB, that could give us a very powerful secondary and we could us the 36th pick on a hybrid. I’d be dissapointed we didn’t get McFadden or Gholston but I wouldn’t be as mad as i would be if we wasted another premier pick on a tackle (who would have to switch positions–can anyone say Robert Gallery!?)
-
You know I know says:
Can’t really go wrong if they take Jake Long – or best CB at #6 – assuming Gholston and McFadden are gone. I’d rather give Brick a year playing alongside Faneca before writing him off. Draft OL later and let Callahan develop them.
If NE jumps to #5 to steal Gholston, then I say let Baltimore jump KC and take Matt Ryan or Sedrick Ellis or Jake Long – whoever is there (KC needs any/all of them). Screw them right back – and get a 3rd round pick along the way. -
ian says:
if j.long were somehow available, i would be all for picking him. he certainly would be a better long term investment in the running game than mcfadden, as OT’s can play for 10+ yrs while RB’s are generally limited to 6 or 7 productive seasons. if d’brick shapes up, the three of them would give us a great o-line for a long (sorry) time.
but the real problem with king’s analysis is the rams, a 4-3 team, taking gholston, a 3-4 OLB in the NFL, when they desperately need offensive lineman and a one of the three or four best players available is an offensive tackle.
-
cbiscuit says:
Agree with 18-1. The key is to talk in depth to Jake Long, Gholston, DMac, Ryan and anyone else who may be available at #6. Our strategy is to go BPA and be flexible come draft day. If we get a phone call, we can move down and draft for need. If not, we have to be ready to pull the trigger on any of these guys. BTW – we could also go DL (Sed Ellis) even though we added Jenkins in FA. My 2 cents.
-
zenlaw says:
I predict it’s Dorsey who falls. Teams may be concerned about the injury risk and take a pass on Dorsey.
No chance Long lasts past KC.
-
Alex says:
Maybe PK and SI think we will convert Jake, just like the Eagles want to convert
Klecko to Full Back.How about Long lining up in the slot (there is the big target receiver) or splitting carries with Jones. Can’t you just see Long just barreling down the field, ball tucked away, running over people, a Jerome Bettis/bus image, except without a second and or third gear.
You got to think outside of the box and give PK and SI the benefit of the doubt.
Oh, Jake Long… the pass rushing OLB, he blocked him college, he has to know all the secrets to getting through the blocks at the NFL level. Solid analysts over there.
-
Harlan Lachman says:
Sack, I cannot allow your praise of Moore to go uncommented on. Moore was certainly better than Clement, Clarke, Bender, Wade, and possibly Brick. But that is because our OL was among the worst in football. We made 3-1 a challenging play (though not for opposing defenses). Third and 1.
Did you focus on line play this past year. Moore would not play for probably any other team in the league. He whiffed on both running and passing blocks. There is a reason he is paid so little. He s-cks!.
Jake Long won’t drop, but if he did, we should thank god and laugh and take him.
Harlan
-
sackdance–woody didn’t move from RG to RT because he failed at RG, he was moved to RT becuase george foster failed at RT. the lions had picked up foster from denver and tried to put a zone blocking, lightweight RT in mike mart’s scheme that prefers big lineman who can form a static pocket. when foster started to fall apart, they moved woody over to his RT spot. not exactly failing at RG.
here is a quote from a recent detroit free press article on drafting o-lineman: “FOSTER IMPROVING: The Lions think right tackle George Foster might be better than he was last year – when he struggled so badly he was benched multiple times and lost his job – basically because they will ask him to do less.”
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080324/SPORTS01/80324057
-
ian, Woody was signed as to play OG by Detroit, lost his starting job and then took over the RT spot. 18andOne, it’s not the money for the 6th pick, it’s the money sunk into one part of the team. With Long, the Jets would be spending more than $100 million on the OL. There are other areas the Jets need and the NFL has a salary cap. So, the higher percentage of the cap devoted to the OL, the less there is to spend on other needed areas, including QB.
Harlan, you get the voodoo doll for your comments. Taking Long to be, initially, a back up RT, or even a starting RT, means that the Jets are just wasting millions on a back up offensive lineman, whether it’s Long, Moore or Woody. Also, where did the Jets have the most success running last season? Off of Moore on the right side. He may not be an elite OG, but he’s above-average and will only look better with the multi-million dollar free agents around him. Last point, not drafting Long in the first round does not mean the Jets should not plan to replace Faneca and Woody, but there is a day 2 to the draft (and unsigned free agents), and that’s where a team can get real value for positions like OG and OT.
Taking Jake Long would be worse than taking Dave Cadigan and Mike Haight. It would be one of the Jets’ biggest draft blunders of all time. -
Sorry, I meant “undrafted free agents” many of which have become productive NFL offensive linemen, like pro-bowler Kris Dielman from the Chargers.
-
This is part of the reason I wasn’t crazy about the Woody pickup. He’s an average RT, and was a below-average RG. I felt like we could’ve filled the RT spot just as adequately in the middle rounds of the draft like most successful offensive teams have done. (Nick Kaczur was a 3rd rd pick, Shane Olivea was 7th rd, Ryan Diem was 4th rd.) That would’ve saved us millions that we could apply to WR, CB, or LB.
PS – For everyone who assumes Long would be an upgrade over D’Brick, I haven’t seen one scout so far who has Jake graded higher than Brick was in the 2006 draft. Give Brick a break – he played next to the worst guard in football last year, and still did a good job against speed rushers. Yes, he has to improve in the run game, but he’s still only 24, growing into his frame, and now has a future HOF’er next to him. Give the other 31 teams a choice of Brick or Jake and I think you’d find almost every one would take Brick.
Eh…I don’t want a RT with pick #6