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		<title>By: Jetski</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/05/peter-king-ranks-all-32-teams/#comment-82405</link>
		<dc:creator>Jetski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sign Chris Simms! The only difference between Manning and Clemens is that Manning gets the calls from the refs, which if you watch sports than you&#039;d know it means everyhing. Manning gets the calls because of his last name/pedigree (his daddy and big bro) and their influence/connections in the league. If the Jets sign Simms than they get all of this plus Simms has at least the same talent as Manning and was playing well. The Jets should take the gamble on his health and trade for him. Mark my words, if they don&#039;t trade for Simms the Jets will regret it when he wins the Comeback Player of the Year award and he&#039;s leading a team like Chicago to the playoffs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sign Chris Simms! The only difference between Manning and Clemens is that Manning gets the calls from the refs, which if you watch sports than you&#8217;d know it means everyhing. Manning gets the calls because of his last name/pedigree (his daddy and big bro) and their influence/connections in the league. If the Jets sign Simms than they get all of this plus Simms has at least the same talent as Manning and was playing well. The Jets should take the gamble on his health and trade for him. Mark my words, if they don&#8217;t trade for Simms the Jets will regret it when he wins the Comeback Player of the Year award and he&#8217;s leading a team like Chicago to the playoffs!</p>
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		<title>By: HOZ THE JET</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/05/peter-king-ranks-all-32-teams/#comment-82389</link>
		<dc:creator>HOZ THE JET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant wait to see clemens throw that rocket up in the air and marcus henry go up and get it for a td...johnny shyne</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny Styne</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/05/peter-king-ranks-all-32-teams/#comment-82378</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Styne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, Coles was a Redskin in 04 -- I meant Baker -- (How could I possibly confuse the two?) --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, Coles was a Redskin in 04 &#8212; I meant Baker &#8212; (How could I possibly confuse the two?) &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Styne</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/05/peter-king-ranks-all-32-teams/#comment-82377</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Styne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was so refreshing to see the Jets go vertical when Quincy Carter threw deep to Laveranues and Santana Moss against Baltimore in 04. Of course, Herm took the ball out of Quincy&#039;s hands and called for the halfback option as not to show up Chad&#039;s torn rotator cuff. At that moment it was sealed that we would have the privilege of watching Chad Pennington start at quarterback for the Jets until the end of time.

It was so refreshing to see the Jets go vertical when Kellen Clemens threw deep against Baltimore in 07. Of course, Justin McCareins dropped the game winning touchdown two times as not to show up Chad&#039;s torn rotator cuff. At that moment it was sealed that we would have the privilege of watching Chad Pennington start at quarterback for the Jets until the end of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was so refreshing to see the Jets go vertical when Quincy Carter threw deep to Laveranues and Santana Moss against Baltimore in 04. Of course, Herm took the ball out of Quincy&#8217;s hands and called for the halfback option as not to show up Chad&#8217;s torn rotator cuff. At that moment it was sealed that we would have the privilege of watching Chad Pennington start at quarterback for the Jets until the end of time.</p>
<p>It was so refreshing to see the Jets go vertical when Kellen Clemens threw deep against Baltimore in 07. Of course, Justin McCareins dropped the game winning touchdown two times as not to show up Chad&#8217;s torn rotator cuff. At that moment it was sealed that we would have the privilege of watching Chad Pennington start at quarterback for the Jets until the end of time.</p>
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		<title>By: HOZ THE JET</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOZ THE JET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and kellen clemens can scramble for the 1st down he is faster than i thought he was!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and kellen clemens can scramble for the 1st down he is faster than i thought he was!</p>
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		<title>By: Najy</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/05/peter-king-ranks-all-32-teams/#comment-82371</link>
		<dc:creator>Najy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tommiesmithjohncarlos,

Excellent post.</description>
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<p>Excellent post.</p>
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		<title>By: sjfalcon2001</title>
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		<dc:creator>sjfalcon2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand your logic, SD99.  So the only QB worth starting is one selected in the first round?  Let&#039;s say the QB we are talking about was Brady Quinn and he had similar numbers to Clemens due to the offensive line play last season in his first year as a starter.  Would you be making the same argument?  Would Chad still present the best opportunity to win?

Look, I am okay with a camp/preseason competition at QB.  If Chad still presents the best chance to win, then I am okay with that.  Next season we can draft a QB and drop Chad.  But if KC (or even Ainge for that matter) proves he is ready to start, then he should start Week 1 regardless of who the opponent is.  Our starting QB should not be babied into the first 2-3 games of the season because if he loses he will be out on his ear.  And who says that will be the case anyway.

What if KC plays exceptionally well as the starter, scoring 30+ points per game, but our defense falls apart and gives up 40 points in each of the first 4 games.  Is KC going to be thrown out because we are 0-4?

What if he plays mediocre in those losses, but Chad has lost the ability to make throws and Ainge isn&#039;t ready?  KC would then present himself as the best option right?  Are you going to tank the season by inserting Chad or Ainge?

Let&#039;s see how preseason plays out and then make some decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand your logic, SD99.  So the only QB worth starting is one selected in the first round?  Let&#8217;s say the QB we are talking about was Brady Quinn and he had similar numbers to Clemens due to the offensive line play last season in his first year as a starter.  Would you be making the same argument?  Would Chad still present the best opportunity to win?</p>
<p>Look, I am okay with a camp/preseason competition at QB.  If Chad still presents the best chance to win, then I am okay with that.  Next season we can draft a QB and drop Chad.  But if KC (or even Ainge for that matter) proves he is ready to start, then he should start Week 1 regardless of who the opponent is.  Our starting QB should not be babied into the first 2-3 games of the season because if he loses he will be out on his ear.  And who says that will be the case anyway.</p>
<p>What if KC plays exceptionally well as the starter, scoring 30+ points per game, but our defense falls apart and gives up 40 points in each of the first 4 games.  Is KC going to be thrown out because we are 0-4?</p>
<p>What if he plays mediocre in those losses, but Chad has lost the ability to make throws and Ainge isn&#8217;t ready?  KC would then present himself as the best option right?  Are you going to tank the season by inserting Chad or Ainge?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how preseason plays out and then make some decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, meant to say:

For the health &lt;i&gt;of our franchise&lt;/i&gt;, both short term and long term, we must give Kellen the opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, meant to say:</p>
<p>For the health <i>of our franchise</i>, both short term and long term, we must give Kellen the opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sack, Parking Expert, Nikolas - 

I couldn&#039;t disagree with you more. Kellen not only gives us the best chance to win in the future (since he and Ainge have the potential to improve while Chad only has the certainty to regress), Kellen gives us the best chance to win right now.  And it&#039;s not even really that close.

I know that Kellen Clemens is still real raw, undisciplined in the pocket, takes too many sacks and is inaccurate.  I know that he only had a 52% completion percentage and that he finished 2008 with a lower QB rating than Chad did.  However, I also know that Kellen is 24 and healthy while Chad is 31 and abused.  I know that during Kellen&#039;s last two years at Oregon, when he was playing behind a line that actually gave him more than 0.3 seconds to look at the field before having to switch into panic mode, he went 408 for 661 (61%) for 4954 yards (7.4 YPA) and 41 TD&#039;s against 14 INT&#039;s (a 2.92 ratio).  The last time Chad had a TD-INT ration that approached 3 to 1 was in 2002, and that was two arm surgeries ago.  I know that Chad Pennington&#039;s game, while extremely accurate on short slants and dumpoffs, is so limited vertically that in the fourth quarter, where defenses tighten and load up for the pass, Chad&#039;s inability to go deep lead to CB&#039;s keying on short routes and Chad posting a miserable 59.7 rating with 1 TD against 5 INT&#039;s.

I know that Chad will be better in 2008 than in 2007, because our team is improved and Chad&#039;s a game manager... you surround him with talented people and he&#039;ll distribute the ball and move the offense.  But, we also know that 2008, 2009, and 2010 Chad Pennington is a very limited quarterback who has, with increasing frequency, played horribly (especially against good defenses) and singlehandedly cost us games because he just can&#039;t make every throw and can&#039;t dictate the offense, instead only working within the space the defense allows him to work in.  There will be multiple situations in every game where Chad will need to make a play that he simply is incapable of making.  It&#039;s like when Jim Abbott pitched in the NL his last year - he&#039;s still a decent pitcher who will keep you in most games, but there&#039;s going to come a time where you really need him to sacrifice bunt over the guy on second and he&#039;s going to end up striking out instead because his body just isn&#039;t capable of that.

I concede that Kellen may end up bombing the joint out and he could be worse than Chad.  However, Tony Romo could have very easily been worse than Drew Bledsoe; Jason Campbell could have been worse than Mark Brunell; David Garrard could have been worse than Byron Leftwich; Matt Hasselbeck could have been worse than Jon Kitna; etc. etc. etc... and, yes, Chad Pennington could have been worse than Vinny Testaverde.  But all of them had the potential to be better, which Kellen has.  All of them have upside and physical ability and needed to be given an opportunity to start and show if they could hack it or not.  For the health, both short term and long term, we must give Kellen the opportunity.  We know that Chad   If he fails, Chad will be there to take the second half of the season.

Again, there will be multiple situations in every game where Chad will need to make a play that he simply is incapable of making, and the defenses know this and adjust accordingly, thus reducing our offensive effectiveness before the ball is even snapped.  Kellen only has the potential to play poorly; he therefore also has the potential to play excellently.  Chad will play slightly above average QB in many situations and horrible QB in several others.  Those are not potentials, those are absolutes.

It&#039;s simply foolish to not play Kellen Clemens from Week One.  Name him the starter, give him the confidence and the practice week reps, let him lead the drills in camp and build a relationship with the WR&#039;s.  Let him sink or swim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sack, Parking Expert, Nikolas &#8211; </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t disagree with you more. Kellen not only gives us the best chance to win in the future (since he and Ainge have the potential to improve while Chad only has the certainty to regress), Kellen gives us the best chance to win right now.  And it&#8217;s not even really that close.</p>
<p>I know that Kellen Clemens is still real raw, undisciplined in the pocket, takes too many sacks and is inaccurate.  I know that he only had a 52% completion percentage and that he finished 2008 with a lower QB rating than Chad did.  However, I also know that Kellen is 24 and healthy while Chad is 31 and abused.  I know that during Kellen&#8217;s last two years at Oregon, when he was playing behind a line that actually gave him more than 0.3 seconds to look at the field before having to switch into panic mode, he went 408 for 661 (61%) for 4954 yards (7.4 YPA) and 41 TD&#8217;s against 14 INT&#8217;s (a 2.92 ratio).  The last time Chad had a TD-INT ration that approached 3 to 1 was in 2002, and that was two arm surgeries ago.  I know that Chad Pennington&#8217;s game, while extremely accurate on short slants and dumpoffs, is so limited vertically that in the fourth quarter, where defenses tighten and load up for the pass, Chad&#8217;s inability to go deep lead to CB&#8217;s keying on short routes and Chad posting a miserable 59.7 rating with 1 TD against 5 INT&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I know that Chad will be better in 2008 than in 2007, because our team is improved and Chad&#8217;s a game manager&#8230; you surround him with talented people and he&#8217;ll distribute the ball and move the offense.  But, we also know that 2008, 2009, and 2010 Chad Pennington is a very limited quarterback who has, with increasing frequency, played horribly (especially against good defenses) and singlehandedly cost us games because he just can&#8217;t make every throw and can&#8217;t dictate the offense, instead only working within the space the defense allows him to work in.  There will be multiple situations in every game where Chad will need to make a play that he simply is incapable of making.  It&#8217;s like when Jim Abbott pitched in the NL his last year &#8211; he&#8217;s still a decent pitcher who will keep you in most games, but there&#8217;s going to come a time where you really need him to sacrifice bunt over the guy on second and he&#8217;s going to end up striking out instead because his body just isn&#8217;t capable of that.</p>
<p>I concede that Kellen may end up bombing the joint out and he could be worse than Chad.  However, Tony Romo could have very easily been worse than Drew Bledsoe; Jason Campbell could have been worse than Mark Brunell; David Garrard could have been worse than Byron Leftwich; Matt Hasselbeck could have been worse than Jon Kitna; etc. etc. etc&#8230; and, yes, Chad Pennington could have been worse than Vinny Testaverde.  But all of them had the potential to be better, which Kellen has.  All of them have upside and physical ability and needed to be given an opportunity to start and show if they could hack it or not.  For the health, both short term and long term, we must give Kellen the opportunity.  We know that Chad   If he fails, Chad will be there to take the second half of the season.</p>
<p>Again, there will be multiple situations in every game where Chad will need to make a play that he simply is incapable of making, and the defenses know this and adjust accordingly, thus reducing our offensive effectiveness before the ball is even snapped.  Kellen only has the potential to play poorly; he therefore also has the potential to play excellently.  Chad will play slightly above average QB in many situations and horrible QB in several others.  Those are not potentials, those are absolutes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply foolish to not play Kellen Clemens from Week One.  Name him the starter, give him the confidence and the practice week reps, let him lead the drills in camp and build a relationship with the WR&#8217;s.  Let him sink or swim.</p>
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		<title>By: SackDance99</title>
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		<dc:creator>SackDance99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were confident that KC could become a good NFL QB, then I&#039;d say play KC and let him learn because he&#039;s the future.  I can&#039;t say that after KC&#039;s terrible 2007 campaign.  If he were Aikman, Peyton or Palmer, then sure, play him because no. 1 picks with prototype size and stellar college resumes are the types of guys that you have to invest in, even if it means growing pains.  KC, on the other hand, was very much a 2nd round project.  He was hurt in college, had pocket poise issues in college, and he does not have prototype size.  As everyone knows who follows my posts, I hope he&#039;s supplanted by Ainge or someone else, but for now, I&#039;d like to see the Jets win and Chad gives the Jets the best chance to win IF he can make the same throws he made in 2006.  Let KC sit and learn more and, if he comes in, he&#039;ll be coming in more prepared and on a better team.  But, if he starts from game 1 and the Jets fall into an 0-3 hole and KC doesn&#039;t look good losing, he&#039;s done as an NFL QB (or, at least, the Jets QB).  It&#039;s better for him and the Jets that Chad gets first crack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were confident that KC could become a good NFL QB, then I&#8217;d say play KC and let him learn because he&#8217;s the future.  I can&#8217;t say that after KC&#8217;s terrible 2007 campaign.  If he were Aikman, Peyton or Palmer, then sure, play him because no. 1 picks with prototype size and stellar college resumes are the types of guys that you have to invest in, even if it means growing pains.  KC, on the other hand, was very much a 2nd round project.  He was hurt in college, had pocket poise issues in college, and he does not have prototype size.  As everyone knows who follows my posts, I hope he&#8217;s supplanted by Ainge or someone else, but for now, I&#8217;d like to see the Jets win and Chad gives the Jets the best chance to win IF he can make the same throws he made in 2006.  Let KC sit and learn more and, if he comes in, he&#8217;ll be coming in more prepared and on a better team.  But, if he starts from game 1 and the Jets fall into an 0-3 hole and KC doesn&#8217;t look good losing, he&#8217;s done as an NFL QB (or, at least, the Jets QB).  It&#8217;s better for him and the Jets that Chad gets first crack.</p>
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