Buzz: The Jets Were Taping Too?
Sen. Arlen Specter said during his press conference that Matt Walsh indicated he saw the Jets taping signals at one point during a Jets-Patriots game, but Walsh did not say anything about it at the time.
As far as I can tell, it wasn’t specified when Walsh said this happened, but it would stand to reason that it was during his time with the team, 2001 or 2002.
29 Responses to Buzz: The Jets Were Taping Too?
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dakar says:
pat
well said…
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nart says:
What a Jerk off…I bet the pats paid him to say that and to not say anything about the rams superbowl videos.
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KC says:
The Jets were taping Walsh taping the signals
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Jeff says:
accusations without verifications!
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nyckage says:
my god i wonder how much the pats paid him to hide the rams superbowl tape and say that 4 a month i actually liked this guy but now i realize hes a money loving jerkoff
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Clarke says:
Oh come on, does this really surprise anyone? This is why I can’t stand this whole controversy, as much as I hate the Pats… With the way people go from job to job in this league, do we really think it was just Pats who were doing this? I would bet nearly the whole league did it at one point or another, the Pats were just so arrogant and self-righteous they got themselves caught.
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Josh says:
Oh whatever. The Pats taped and won, and the Jets taped and lost. Figures. I doubt it’s true, but leave it to the Jets to cheat and still be consistent losers.
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hank/naples says:
This is great!!!This is gotten so silly that now we say that we’re taping the tapers. It is common knowledge and readily admitted by most coaches that taping was done by mostly everyone. My problem is with the person more than the act. Balicheats character is dismal at best starting with the fact that he ran out on New York after having a contractual obligation to coach the Jets, “recruiting” six or seven Jet players to get him to his first superbowl in 2001 and hating Mangini for bettering himself and his family by taking the Jets job. On top of everything Belicheat comes into his stadium and tries to steal his signals after Mangini warns him not to try it.
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Ed L says:
he is a tool…..
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I smell a couple of Pats fans in the last two replies. I think KC hit it on the head– they were taping Walsh.
BTW, Pats fans, Arlen Specter’ is not going away. But don’t take my word for it, read his floor statement in the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/sports/football/14specterstatement.html?ref=football
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ralphinHP says:
I think we can expect the Pats to come at us for the rest of the Jets existence, off the field and on the field.
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well look at it this way atleast we r getting publicity its been a while since the jets made the front page of the news
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Thurdeye says:
This is turning into political mudslinging and I hate politics. I can’t wait for the swiftboat ads…….Please just make it stop.
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belicheck is a scumbag plain & simple. He’s gotten away with murder. There can be little doubt that their superbowl victories are tarnished by the possibility that their illegal taping helped them achieve those close wins. If you want to let it go, then let it go. Either way, I ind it sad that the outcome of 3 superbowls are in question. I’m a Jet fan first, but I’m a footbal fan. When a team wins the superbowl, I want to know (not think, not hope) that they did so fair and square. All teams want an edge and would love to get the other teams defensive signals. Only one was caught blatantly and illegally taping another team’s signals and that teams’ coach, a supposed genius and devoted student of football, “didn’t understand’ that he was doing something wrong. Oh, and by the way that team won 3 of the last 7 superbowls. Very sad.
Many people here on this blog have said that they were adequately punished. I don’t care if it’s the harshest fine in history or not – hpw much punishment was it really? Both Kraft and belicheck laugh at the money they were fined, it may be unprecedented, but how much does half a mill hurt a guy like belicheck who must have a minimum of 20x that in the bank? Krafy owns a pro team and 250k is supposed to phase him? They lose the 31st pick but keep the 7th – that’s logic for you. While they would’ve surely loved the 31st pick, how much more would losing both of their firsts have impacted them? Or even just losing the better of their two firsts? A punishment should not just look good on the books, it should actually impact those being punished.
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Not that it matters but Belicheat was fined 750K not 500K. Either way Kraft signed Belicheat to an extension right after the fine which is just the pats way of not making Bill have to pay out of his own pocket. I personally believe the NFL’s fine on the Pats and Bill was just ,for the Jets game infraction, but when 6 more videos come out I can’t justify not having a bigger penalty.
God, why am I so mad about this?
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oh maybe the 750K was the total between Bill and the Pats, my bad, either way screm em.
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Dean Barbella says:
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Joe F says:
I still think this is a complete non-issue, fueled by the desperate publicity-craving urgings of a US Senator.
Even as a Jets fan, I can acknowledge that *every* team does it to one degree or another. For Pete’s sake, follow the Belichick ‘tree’ in both directions and count how many current NFL heavyweights sit on the boughs, and then tell me the Patriots were really the only team doing this kind of thing.
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Joe F:
Ask yourself these questions:
Why would Belichick continue to cheat after receiving a directive only a couple of months before from the Czar warning of severe punishment for those that continued to tape?
Why would Belichick , knowing how insulted Mangini was after locking him out of his own office, come in to Manginis own house and tape him when Mangini had warned Belichick not to do it to him?
Why would the Czar instantly destroy all evidence (tapes, notes testimonies ect.) before it was even exposed and without a proper investigation or proper discourse?
Why was the attorney for the Patriots (representing Belichick?) allowed to be present when the Czar questioned Matt Walsh about the incident.?
And why would a very respected US Senator whose job is to investigate for Congress all illegal affairs that affect the people of this country get involoved?. Is it maybe because the transparency of the sport of football can have an impact on its millions of fans and its youth?
Do you really belive that $500M (which by the way was paid by Kraft through his contract extension) and allowed the Patriots to sit confortably right behind us ready to stomp over us at the first chance they got, do you consider that fair punishment?
I don’t know about you, but as a devoted Jets fan since before Joe Willy and a football fan all my life I am very very grateful that Sen. Specter is not allowing the Czar to bury this thing and allow it to fester and rot.
And all of as true fans should not allow that this whitewash of our sport of football by Czar Goodell remains uncovered. -
Press conferences are for the illiterate. Read Specter’s floor statement on the NYT website. Spygate is not going away, but clearly the league covered up the scope of the Patriots cheating.
The point that really stands out in my mind is, if you’re not playing an opponent a second time in the same season, what’s the point of videotaping? Answer: They did it so they could do in game adjustments in the second half. You take a Quarterback with Brady’s accuracy, give him good line protection in the no huddle, so the defense can’t substitute, hence limiting their playcalling, then you’re OC tells him what play the defense is running and, voila! Vinitiari kicks the game winning field goal. That’s how they won 2 out of their 3 Superbowls!
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Fonzie says:
I question what type of person Roger Goodell really is?
I mean after months and months of investigation when everything heats up he says its a whitewash. Who is he to represent the image of football as a microcosm of life and say by not hammering Matt Walsh its okay to cheat in football because I believe Bellicheat was not punished enough its okay to cheat in life. Roger Goodell has a lot to look at now. -
On a side note.
Tom Brady says he doesn’t “respect the Jets” well the Pats are not going to screw us again and September 14 we will beat the Patriots at home!!!
Remember Micheal Strahan after the Super Bowl and after the parade “We flat out kicked their butt” and Tom Brady “respected” them. However he did it once and stopped their history from receiving more glory. Now its our time to do it to them every single year. It will strike Bellicheat in the heart and eventually Bellicheat’s kryptonite Mangini will take over the AFC East. -
Sorry for that. It was suppose to say after the parade said “We flat out..”
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Jason says:
I call bullshi*, if we did the Chad would have thrown for fifty touchdowns
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pat d says:
Joe F
Very good questions and points.The tapes were given to a player. This player was told to memorize the signals. The player would stand next to the offensive coach and tell the coach when he reconized a signal the next time they played that team. This is what Walsh said was done with the tapes. Now what player would stand next to the offensive coach during a game. Maybe a quarterback. The six tapes that Walsh had was when Drew Bledsoe was playing quarterback. The quarterback that was standing next to the offensive coach at this time was Tom Brady.
So my question is why wouldn’t they name the player the press conference. Is the Czar protecting one of there star players.
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Goddell is just doing part of his job, which is to protect the NFL brand. He’s stuck between a rock and a hard place. If the whole, unadulterated truth came out, it would probably tarnish the game itself and the Commissioner can’t allow that to happen.
There’s no denying, they got off easy. But among their peers, Robert Kraft, Bill Bellicheat and the Patriots will, from now on, be viewed with suspicion and contempt. I’ll bet there wasn’t a player, coach or owner in the league that wasn’t tickled that the Giants beat them in the Superbowl. Fair and square, I may add.
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hank
well said and i agree 100%…rather than being steady and firm to the oath he made to protect the NFL shield he tried his best to cover up…i feel this fiasco has been swept under the rug like regular dirt…i feel goodell tarnished the NFL shield more by destroying evidence and by doing that he responded in haste to protect his good friend b.kraft…and whats that tell us about the man who promised to clean up the NFL from all illegal activities…i see him as a protector of the LIARS and CHEATERS of the NFL the NE PATRIOTS…just my thoughts…
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cbiscuit says:
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Ask yourself this question – why would a “well respected” Senator from PA spend so much time keeping this issue alive?
Could it be that the Mr. Specter’s main source of PAC money is Comcast Cable, presently locked in a battle with the NFL Network over cable rights? Sounds like a conflict of interest to me and this dude should get taken off the case for someone who could be a little more objective. If I paid taxes in PA I would wonder why this tool is not spending more time working on issues that have a bearing in my state.
prove it.