Comments on: Daily Links: Tackling Champ? http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:11:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: billvv http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-85068 billvv Tue, 20 May 2008 11:25:50 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-85068 Bilal: Jets odds http://nflblogs.profootballweekly.com/Handicapping/2008/05/2009_super_bowl_odds_from_patr.html Bilal:
Jets odds
http://nflblogs.profootballweekly.com/Handicapping/2008/05/2009_super_bowl_odds_from_patr.html

]]> By: bubbybrister/shovelpass http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84872 bubbybrister/shovelpass Mon, 19 May 2008 15:26:01 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84872 I agree with most of what Mike G. said, but what I'm afraid of most is the next next "obvious" phrase that will be coming out of camp and uttered into the fall... Team chemistry and cohesiveness. I can hear the quotes now..."well, when you change this much personnel, it's gonna take some time to jell..blah-blah-blah..." I remember Herm and Donny Henderson once spewing that junk all season long. The good news is that our bye-week comes earlier this year, and history has shown we play better after the bye-week. I like the moves, in general, but I'll be annoyed if it takes forever to see the results on the field. Let's hope they all stay healthy and motivated! I agree with most of what Mike G. said, but what I’m afraid of most is the next next “obvious” phrase that will be coming out of camp and uttered into the fall… Team chemistry and cohesiveness. I can hear the quotes now…”well, when you change this much personnel, it’s gonna take some time to jell..blah-blah-blah…” I remember Herm and Donny Henderson once spewing that junk all season long. The good news is that our bye-week comes earlier this year, and history has shown we play better after the bye-week. I like the moves, in general, but I’ll be annoyed if it takes forever to see the results on the field. Let’s hope they all stay healthy and motivated!

]]> By: ramble914 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84831 ramble914 Mon, 19 May 2008 11:24:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84831 Mike G/ Dakar, I agree. I think an 11-5 season is within our grasp. To me, the most important early season game is the first one against Miami. WE HAVE TO WIN THAT GAME! It will set the tone for the whole season. If we win, we are the team on the rise, the team who made all the right moves. If we lose that game, then its Miami who did everything right and is on the rise. We have to win that first game. Everything the team does from now until kickoff should begeared toward wining that game. Mike G/ Dakar,

I agree. I think an 11-5 season is within our grasp.

To me, the most important early season game is the first one against Miami. WE HAVE TO WIN THAT GAME! It will set the tone for the whole season. If we win, we are the team on the rise, the team who made all the right moves. If we lose that game, then its Miami who did everything right and is on the rise. We have to win that first game. Everything the team does from now until kickoff should begeared toward wining that game.

]]> By: dakar http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84827 dakar Mon, 19 May 2008 09:42:34 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84827 mike g well said...and i agree with your optimizum...we do look like a very good team on paper...lets just hope mangini brings it out in the games...and get those wins... mike g

well said…and i agree with your optimizum…we do look like a very good team on paper…lets just hope mangini brings it out in the games…and get those wins…

]]> By: Mike G http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84818 Mike G Mon, 19 May 2008 06:02:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84818 As a long time jet fan I have always been cautious with my expectations for this team. But I cant help but feel that if a few things work out for us this could be our best team sine 1998. For the Jets to be this good they obviously need a few questions answered. The QB: With our current situation, the competition between KC and CP, QB is obviously a question mark for us. However, with our improved defense and O-Line I feel optimistic that whoever is annointed the starter can be successful. I have reasonable confidence in both CP and KC. While it remains a question who our starter will be, I have confidence Mangini and co will make the right decision. The O-Line/Running Game: Clearly our biggest weakness last year was the O-Line. The signings of Faneca, Woody, Richardson and Franks should improve the unit tremendously. Obviously the question above concerning the QB situation will ultimately rest on the success of the offensive line. With Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, and Jesse Chatman, the Jets have a lot of talent at the RB position. With our offseason additions, this unit has potential to be dominant. And a dominant running game is only going to make our QB that much better. The Pass Rush: If the additions of Kris Jenkins, Calvin Pace and Vernon Gholsten dont improve our pass rush I don't know what will. With Bryan Thomas, who has a lot to prove, the Jets have 3 very athletic and talented OLB's. Throw in David Bowens and you have 4. Jenkins should clog up the middle and make it VERY easy for these OLB's to run free and create havoc. Plus, with David Harris in his first full year as a starter, we have a stud in the making at MLB. I can see our pass rush being very good, especially if Jenkins can dominate the middle. Our secondary was pretty damn good last year even without a respectable pass rush. Imagine how much better they would be with constant pressure on the QB. #2 CB: I disagree for the most part with many of your opinions of this situation. With Darrelle Revis (top 5 cb in the nfl), and an improved pass rush, the second cb spot holds a lot less responsibility. Throw in Kerry Rhodes helping out from the Saftey spot, and it is even easier. I feel between Hank Poteat, Justin Miller, and David Barret the jets have an above average #2 cb. If most of our moves pan out, I can see the Jets making some serious noise. Maybe even 10-13 wins. With a schedule that includes 2 games against Miami, and games against Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis, San Francisco, Arizona, Denver, and Cincinatti, I feel the Jets have 9 games against teams that they should be better then. Plus 2 games against the bills, who I think we are even with, if not better than. @ Tennessee doesnt scare me, and that is another winnable game. The remaining games are 2 against New England, and 1 vs San Diego and Seattle. I would love to be able to split with the pats, and why should we not believe we can beat SD? We did it the last 2 times when we were underdogs didnt we? and as far as Seattle, obviously a tough game, but Seattle is beatable. With that said, the Jets should be able to win a ton of games. I dont think I've been this excited for a season since 99. We all know what happened in the first game of that season. Lets hope this year goes much better. Jets For Life. -Mike G As a long time jet fan I have always been cautious with my expectations for this team. But I cant help but feel that if a few things work out for us this could be our best team sine 1998. For the Jets to be this good they obviously need a few questions answered.

The QB:
With our current situation, the competition between KC and CP, QB is obviously a question mark for us. However, with our improved defense and O-Line I feel optimistic that whoever is annointed the starter can be successful. I have reasonable confidence in both CP and KC. While it remains a question who our starter will be, I have confidence Mangini and co will make the right decision.

The O-Line/Running Game:
Clearly our biggest weakness last year was the
O-Line. The signings of Faneca, Woody, Richardson and Franks should improve the unit tremendously. Obviously the question above concerning the QB situation will ultimately rest on the success of the offensive line. With Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, and Jesse Chatman, the Jets have a lot of talent at the RB position. With our offseason additions, this unit has potential to be dominant. And a dominant running game is only going to make our QB that much better.

The Pass Rush:
If the additions of Kris Jenkins, Calvin Pace and Vernon Gholsten dont improve our pass rush I don’t know what will. With Bryan Thomas, who has a lot to prove, the Jets have 3 very athletic and talented OLB’s. Throw in David Bowens and you have 4. Jenkins should clog up the middle and make it VERY easy for these OLB’s to run free and create havoc. Plus, with David Harris in his first full year as a starter, we have a stud in the making at MLB. I can see our pass rush being very good, especially if Jenkins can dominate the middle. Our secondary was pretty damn good last year even without a respectable pass rush. Imagine how much better they would be with constant pressure on the QB.

#2 CB:
I disagree for the most part with many of your opinions of this situation. With Darrelle Revis (top 5 cb in the nfl), and an improved pass rush, the second cb spot holds a lot less responsibility. Throw in Kerry Rhodes helping out from the Saftey spot, and it is even easier. I feel between Hank Poteat, Justin Miller, and David Barret the jets have an above average #2 cb.

If most of our moves pan out, I can see the Jets making some serious noise. Maybe even 10-13 wins. With a schedule that includes 2 games against Miami, and games against Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis, San Francisco, Arizona, Denver, and Cincinatti, I feel the Jets have 9 games against teams that they should be better then. Plus 2 games against the bills, who I think we are even with, if not better than. @ Tennessee doesnt scare me, and that is another winnable game. The remaining games are 2 against New England, and 1 vs San Diego and Seattle. I would love to be able to split with the pats, and why should we not believe we can beat SD? We did it the last 2 times when we were underdogs didnt we? and as far as Seattle, obviously a tough game, but Seattle is beatable. With that said, the Jets should be able to win a ton of games. I dont think I’ve been this excited for a season since 99. We all know what happened in the first game of that season. Lets hope this year goes much better.
Jets For Life.

-Mike G

]]> By: RK http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84817 RK Mon, 19 May 2008 05:59:27 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84817 According to Urban Dictionary here is the origin of "thrown under the bus": http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=under+the+bus According to Urban Dictionary here is the origin of “thrown under the bus”:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=under+the+bus

]]> By: Bilal http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84805 Bilal Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:19 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84805 First of all... I don't remember any post where Coleman was being "thrown under the bus." He was fairly productive but the the combo of Ellis and Coleman at the 3/4 DE wasn't as strong as you would like. The Vegas odds for the Jets making it is 40 to 1 odds. Where did you get 25 to 1? Since the subway series is going on, I was curious of the baseball fan makeup on this blog. Care for baseball? Mets or Yanks? Die hard Mets fan here! First of all… I don’t remember any post where Coleman was being “thrown under the bus.” He was fairly productive but the the combo of Ellis and Coleman at the 3/4 DE wasn’t as strong as you would like.

The Vegas odds for the Jets making it is 40 to 1 odds. Where did you get 25 to 1?

Since the subway series is going on, I was curious of the baseball fan makeup on this blog.

Care for baseball?
Mets or Yanks?

Die hard Mets fan here!

]]> By: swizzle http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84803 swizzle Mon, 19 May 2008 02:04:57 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84803 I thought Coleman was solid last year, he was one of the few D Line who actually played well against the run. Look for the Jets to possibly put Gholston at DE on some plays, not sure if that would be be a good thing, and possibly Bowens who actually did ok when given the chance as well. I thought Coleman was solid last year, he was one of the few D Line who actually played well against the run. Look for the Jets to possibly put Gholston at DE on some plays, not sure if that would be be a good thing, and possibly Bowens who actually did ok when given the chance as well.

]]> By: billvv http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84795 billvv Mon, 19 May 2008 00:29:20 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84795 If you take a look at the Vegas odds of the Jets making the 2009 SB, we're 25-1 odds. But looking at it another way we're tied for 15th with three other teams. I'd say the odds makers have it about right for not even seeing the team play a down! The odds for the rest of the teams range all the way down to 120 -1! If you take a look at the Vegas odds of the Jets making the 2009 SB, we’re 25-1 odds. But looking at it another way we’re tied for 15th with three other teams. I’d say the odds makers have it about right for not even seeing the team play a down! The odds for the rest of the teams range all the way down to 120 -1!

]]> By: Mike G http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/05/18/daily-links-tackling-champ/#comment-84788 Mike G Sun, 18 May 2008 23:19:25 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=4248#comment-84788 Ramble, I couldnt agree more with everything you said. I'm almost hesitant about saying it, but I truly think this defense is gonna be unbelievable. It looks like all the pieces are in place. And like ramble said, with Revis locking down the #1 WR, and with our imrpoved pass rush, its gonna make it so much easier for Barret, Miller, Poteat, etc. Now its up to the coaches. Ramble, I couldnt agree more with everything you said.
I’m almost hesitant about saying it, but I truly think this defense is gonna be unbelievable. It looks like all the pieces are in place. And like ramble said, with Revis locking down the #1 WR, and with our imrpoved pass rush, its gonna make it so much easier for Barret, Miller, Poteat, etc. Now its up to the coaches.

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