Comments on: One Jets LB Is Getting Used To The New York Pace

By: RK

RK — Fri, 30 May 2008 03:57:23 +0000

11 sacks in a game can pad stats but it’s only one game and most likely a horrendous loss by the team that gave up the sacks but having 3 or 4 sacks in a game doesn’t mean you won or lost or that you shut a team down. On the contrary that may mean the opposing team had the ball so many times it gave you the opportunity to get a few more sacks or the sacks came in garbage time.

Sacks are only one metric but getting 11 in a game usually is a good indicator of destruction in a game.

So a game in which there are 11 sacks by one team the outcome of that game is evident but 3 or 4 sacks maybe not so much.

By: Fonzie/Naples

Fonzie/Naples — Fri, 30 May 2008 00:03:00 +0000

RK:
I don’t quite understand your last statement :”Sacks are just one metric and do not always give a clear indication of how effective or ineffective a defense is. That being said, watching a team give up 11 sacks in a game pretty much tells that story.”
Seems contradictory, however you can pressure all you want but if you don’t break through a decent QB will tear you appart.

By: RK

RK — Thu, 29 May 2008 18:31:34 +0000

Again I think the point about sacks being overrated is not that the stat in unimportant but that the don’t tell the whole story exclusively.

Just because you don’t get the sack doesn’t mean you didn’t force a turn over or pressure the passer time and again into throwing the ball away or creating holding penalties and then punts.

Sacks are just one metric and do not always give a clear indication of how effective or ineffective a defense is. That being said, watching a team give up 11 sacks in a game pretty much tells that story.

By: chris

chris — Thu, 29 May 2008 14:43:35 +0000

sacks can’t be over-rated if we want to beat the Patriots. look at the Giants

By: Fonzie/Naples

Fonzie/Naples — Thu, 29 May 2008 11:15:15 +0000

If a defese can not crush the pocket or atleast have the potential to do so with a decent QB, GAME IS OVER folks.

By: Fonzie/Naples

Fonzie/Naples — Thu, 29 May 2008 11:08:53 +0000

Reprocity:

In answer to your question, I would take Pace over A. Thomas in a NY second, hands down. Thomas is on his down side @30 and Pace is all upside, better than a rookie in a new position @ 27. Look at last years stats and Pace out played him while learning a new position. He will be even better with the Jets because he has a lot more help

By: JustAGreenGuy

JustAGreenGuy — Thu, 29 May 2008 01:31:00 +0000

People just take things so literal. Sacks are great, but they aren’t the end all be all. If Pace gives 6 he is better then Hobson. I like the Pace signing because he plays the ball. We have real defenders. Wow! We need more then 29 sacks. We can win without getting sacks tho. They just make it easier to win.

By: Broadway12

Broadway12 — Thu, 29 May 2008 00:53:52 +0000

Sacks are not overrated . Just ask The Giants? Pace has mentioned before that going against ELITE TACKLES every down was diffucult especially on the weakside. He’s happy playing LB so as long as he plays the run tuff and can cover TE’S and have 5-7 sacks i think he has done his job

By: Reprocity

Reprocity — Thu, 29 May 2008 00:09:34 +0000

Who would you guys take Adalius thomas or Calvin Pace?

INTs and Fumbles then any play for a loss either run or sack is the pecking order.

By: Fonzie

Fonzie — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:41:00 +0000

Hey Al:

Read RK and you’ll see he is not saying that at all. What Pace is saying is that he can’t beat everyone all the time , that football is a game of matchups, therefore in his new position he can pick his mach ups and kick some butts. He is going to be twice as good with the Jets than the Cards. Tens sacks at least this year. Mangini will use all his skills, just watch, and I know, have confidence!!!