Thanks again guys…

That’s actually exactly what I’d expect to see considering Defenses are going to play each QB differently. They’re more concious of the dink and dunk stuff with pennington and they’re concerned with “down the field” for clemens. these stats show nothing more than what the defense gave the offense when each qb was running the show.

To answer your question, it is unfortunate that the bye week is in week 5. Usually, that is the best time to make a qb change during the season.

Looking at the schedule, I think that Kellen should be evaluated on a 3 game period. I dont want to be stubborn and stick with Kellen if he sucks because that wont get us anywhere. If kellen has 4 bad games in a row, it might be time to pull the trigger.

Sack, we will be able to get a much better picture once preseason starts because this is all speculation right now. I need something new and tangible to look at so that I can give you a better opinion.

I dont think that there will be a number of starts that will be given for the qb. Every game is important and we cannot afford to lose any. It is just tough to sit and critique both qbs because they both sucked last year.

THE BOTH SUCKED!!!! I hope one of them has improved.

I think that it will all depend on how Kellen comes into preseason. If he looks impressive in preseason, then he will be the starter in hopes that his preseason performance can translate into the regular season.

Kellen will not start if he looks bad in preseaon. My personal opinion, Sack, is that the job is for Kellen to win. Chad is the security blanket. That is the only reason the team kept him is for security.

All kellen has to do is look impressive in preseason and he will be the starter. Just dont expect him to be handed the job because he has a big arm. Rex Grossman has a big arm too.

Personally, I am pulling for Kellen, hoping that he has improved and that he will be the starter because our organization needs a change of face and a new leader.

Chad may or may not return to his 2006 form and Kellen may or may not have improved. Preseason will tell us the story better than anyone on this blog.

For the record though, I am pulling for Kellen. The job is their for him to win. Chad is just their incase Kellen cant win the job.

I don’t think it will take 17 more starts to determine if KC has it or not, nor should he be allowed to play that long if he isn’t doing well. But, 8 starts is not enough to say he dosen’t have it. If he wins the competition he should be given 6 to 8 starts, and hopefully he does well.

I also want to add that if the team decides that Chad is the best fit to start this season, it dosen’t necessarily mean that KC is finished. The organization should play CP as long as he is productive, and then go back to KC when the time is right.

And, your coin flip analogy is ridiculous, but telling. You want to give KC 17 more NFL starts so the Jets can decide whether he’s a bona fide NFL starter? How about this, maybe the reason the coin comes up heads is because both sides are heads…the coin is a fraud. How many more times does the coin have to come up heads before you check the other side to determine whether it is a fraud? Well, I’ll tell you what, if Mangini and Tannenbaum let that coin show up heads 17 more times, they’ll be fired, with good reason.

Hey, it’s Joyner’s stats, not mine. Chad out-performed KC statistically…that’s a fact. Chad had an ankle injury, that’s a fact, too. You are correct that past performance does not guarantee future success. But, it is indicative of future success and Chad performed statistically better than KC. Also, Chad has been injured and KC has been injured in 2 of his last 3 football seasons, which is another fact.

I posted this before and I’ll say it again. Because KC has a strong arm, a quick release and good mobility, he has, potentially, a higher ceiling than Chad. But, it’s only potentially. If Chad can return to his 2006 form, and let’s assume that is his ceiling, that’s a pretty good ceiling. Is it hope? I guess, but it’s based on something tangible, a body of work that is only 2 years old. There is no evidence of what KC’s ceiling could be in the NFL, but he has to radically improve to be a bona fide NFL starter. Further, while Chad will never approach his 2002 numbers, KC only really played well in the fourth quarter of his first game against Baltimore. Will KC ever show that kind of promise, again? Or, will he be like Ryan Fitzpatrick, who had his best game in his first game and never came close thereafter?

Najy, since you’re honest, how many starts do you want to give KC? He’s had 8, how many more are you willing to give him, knowing that it may come at the cost of Jet victories?

Here’s a question for everybody: if you flip a coin eight times and it comes up heads eight times, what does that tell you? If you flip a coin 25 times and it comes up heads 25 times, what does that tell you? How and why are the answers different?