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		<title>By: DSmizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/06/07/bakerwatch-talking-points-recycled/#comment-87990</link>
		<dc:creator>DSmizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, I&#039;ve been one of the loudest Chris Baker supporters, but then I realized that Tangini successfully dealt with something similar last year; they &quot;proved their point&quot;, send Pete Kendall out to languish with an appropriate contract and a playoff season in Washington, and thrived with a 4-12 season here in JET-land.

No wait, they handled it terribly and the offensive line was one of their biggest (of many) problems.

I&#039;m starting to think my faith in Tangini was based much on hype, unless, of course, they do what&#039;s best for the team and throw a little extra cash at Baker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, I&#8217;ve been one of the loudest Chris Baker supporters, but then I realized that Tangini successfully dealt with something similar last year; they &#8220;proved their point&#8221;, send Pete Kendall out to languish with an appropriate contract and a playoff season in Washington, and thrived with a 4-12 season here in JET-land.</p>
<p>No wait, they handled it terribly and the offensive line was one of their biggest (of many) problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think my faith in Tangini was based much on hype, unless, of course, they do what&#8217;s best for the team and throw a little extra cash at Baker.</p>
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		<title>By: JustAGreenGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAGreenGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What message are we sending where its ok to give anyone who whines more money or a trade? What happened to honoring an agreement? The league already fully supports cheaters? 

Bunch of babies. How many of these guys grew up with nothing and now buy $400,000+ houses. The game has been good to them. I&#039;ve heard Chris Bakers name this offseason more than I have in his career and I do like him as a player. Bunch of spoiled brats. I don&#039;t care how little he makes in comparison to the other TEs he doesn&#039;t have 1st round pick or pro bowler on his resume.

Something has to change or it will be impossible to watch any sport and respect anything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What message are we sending where its ok to give anyone who whines more money or a trade? What happened to honoring an agreement? The league already fully supports cheaters? </p>
<p>Bunch of babies. How many of these guys grew up with nothing and now buy $400,000+ houses. The game has been good to them. I&#8217;ve heard Chris Bakers name this offseason more than I have in his career and I do like him as a player. Bunch of spoiled brats. I don&#8217;t care how little he makes in comparison to the other TEs he doesn&#8217;t have 1st round pick or pro bowler on his resume.</p>
<p>Something has to change or it will be impossible to watch any sport and respect anything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big A, its nice to finally here someone with some sense who understands the value of veteran players.

James in TN, you should be cut from the website, idiotic comments are a dime a dozen.

For the millionth time, we cant just replace Chris Baker, like I posted earlier, hes not elite, hes not great, but hes good, and hes a top 15 TE.  So why are some of you so eager to dump a guy who is valuable to our team?

Baker doesnt make that much money, giving him a small pay bump to make him happy is completely reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big A, its nice to finally here someone with some sense who understands the value of veteran players.</p>
<p>James in TN, you should be cut from the website, idiotic comments are a dime a dozen.</p>
<p>For the millionth time, we cant just replace Chris Baker, like I posted earlier, hes not elite, hes not great, but hes good, and hes a top 15 TE.  So why are some of you so eager to dump a guy who is valuable to our team?</p>
<p>Baker doesnt make that much money, giving him a small pay bump to make him happy is completely reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: James in TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>James in TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again cut his a$$.  TE&#039;s are a dime a dozen.</description>
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		<title>By: Big A</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/06/07/bakerwatch-talking-points-recycled/#comment-87888</link>
		<dc:creator>Big A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few comments…

The Jets don’t feature the TE in the passing game like SD, CLE and KC to name a few, so the opportunities will be less for Baker to put up numbers.

Second, the Jets offense seemed to run very few plays compared to our opponents last year due to their inability to sustain drives, which would indicate that Baker’s “carreer stats” he put up last year DO reflect a much better year than one would suspect.

Third, when looking at his % of completions that went for 1st downs (read clutch factor and drive sustaining), Baker did very well. He was ranked fourth behind Billy Miller, Antonio Gates &amp; Randy McMichael out of 33 TEs with more than 25 catches.

This illustrates his value to the Jets offense as a receiver especialy to CP with his weaker arm. He should really get more money for his play in that he is also the best blocking TE they have and didn’t mail it in last year compared to others…

The Jets FO needs to fix this by either putting something in writing now, reworking his contract or trading him to get some value, and to put a stop to the PK show - Part II starring Chris Baker…

EddieC, the Jets didn&#039;t lose money despite their 4-12 season. His salary should not be a reflection of the overall team&#039;s performance. Players are rated individually. Team record should not equal personal compensation, otherwise the best rookies going to the worst teams should make only a few $$s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few comments…</p>
<p>The Jets don’t feature the TE in the passing game like SD, CLE and KC to name a few, so the opportunities will be less for Baker to put up numbers.</p>
<p>Second, the Jets offense seemed to run very few plays compared to our opponents last year due to their inability to sustain drives, which would indicate that Baker’s “carreer stats” he put up last year DO reflect a much better year than one would suspect.</p>
<p>Third, when looking at his % of completions that went for 1st downs (read clutch factor and drive sustaining), Baker did very well. He was ranked fourth behind Billy Miller, Antonio Gates &amp; Randy McMichael out of 33 TEs with more than 25 catches.</p>
<p>This illustrates his value to the Jets offense as a receiver especialy to CP with his weaker arm. He should really get more money for his play in that he is also the best blocking TE they have and didn’t mail it in last year compared to others…</p>
<p>The Jets FO needs to fix this by either putting something in writing now, reworking his contract or trading him to get some value, and to put a stop to the PK show &#8211; Part II starring Chris Baker…</p>
<p>EddieC, the Jets didn&#8217;t lose money despite their 4-12 season. His salary should not be a reflection of the overall team&#8217;s performance. Players are rated individually. Team record should not equal personal compensation, otherwise the best rookies going to the worst teams should make only a few $$s.</p>
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		<title>By: pat d</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baker your injury is so serious the jets should put you on IR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baker your injury is so serious the jets should put you on IR.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramble914</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramble914</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bent,

You just did.</description>
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<p>You just did.</p>
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		<title>By: Bent</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/06/07/bakerwatch-talking-points-recycled/#comment-87863</link>
		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for not calling this Baker-gate.</description>
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		<title>By: EddieC</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/06/07/bakerwatch-talking-points-recycled/#comment-87848</link>
		<dc:creator>EddieC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and especially after his FIRST above average season when consistency is not a gaurentee mind you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and especially after his FIRST above average season when consistency is not a gaurentee mind you</p>
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		<title>By: EddieC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EddieC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with ramble...how is any player able to ask for more money after finishing as the 6th worst team in the league? if a business failed miserably but a worker did okay, would he recieve a raise? not the best analogy but something to think about. 

baker is a good TE, but when the objective to win games is not reached, why should an individual be rewarded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with ramble&#8230;how is any player able to ask for more money after finishing as the 6th worst team in the league? if a business failed miserably but a worker did okay, would he recieve a raise? not the best analogy but something to think about. </p>
<p>baker is a good TE, but when the objective to win games is not reached, why should an individual be rewarded?</p>
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