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		<title>By: James in TN</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96755</link>
		<dc:creator>James in TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Gholston develops, but I wanted to get Mayo because he has a great motor and intensity.  The jury is still out and I think Gholston will be a fine security guard for the players entrance for the next 4 years.  He is a monster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Gholston develops, but I wanted to get Mayo because he has a great motor and intensity.  The jury is still out and I think Gholston will be a fine security guard for the players entrance for the next 4 years.  He is a monster.</p>
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		<title>By: DSmizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96646</link>
		<dc:creator>DSmizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvlis:

I understand your point of view as to why you think we need more time to evaluate him (a point I agree with you on), but I&#039;ll never agree that its too early to start discussing it on a blog, lest you be called an uninformed fan who knows nothing about pro football!

So while I understand your point, my opinion isn&#039;t based on the fact I think he&#039;s not &quot;trying&quot;.  That isn&#039;t the issue.  I&#039;ve had issues with his not having a great football sense for a while now.  Starting in 10th grade is no excuse!  Thats more than enough time to learn football.  In point of fact, I don&#039;t recall learning anything of substance about football until about 9th grade.  8th grade football, and freshmen teams, are a good place to learn substantive football?

My memories of 8th grade football are all about the fastest kids running one way, and then cutting all the way back accross the field and stuff like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvlis:</p>
<p>I understand your point of view as to why you think we need more time to evaluate him (a point I agree with you on), but I&#8217;ll never agree that its too early to start discussing it on a blog, lest you be called an uninformed fan who knows nothing about pro football!</p>
<p>So while I understand your point, my opinion isn&#8217;t based on the fact I think he&#8217;s not &#8220;trying&#8221;.  That isn&#8217;t the issue.  I&#8217;ve had issues with his not having a great football sense for a while now.  Starting in 10th grade is no excuse!  Thats more than enough time to learn football.  In point of fact, I don&#8217;t recall learning anything of substance about football until about 9th grade.  8th grade football, and freshmen teams, are a good place to learn substantive football?</p>
<p>My memories of 8th grade football are all about the fastest kids running one way, and then cutting all the way back accross the field and stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvlis</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96643</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvlis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DSmizzle, I hear you.  You want to see more effort than Gholston has shown, so far.   There are a few reasons why you should not be concerned.  He is learning a new position in a new league.  He is more concerned with learning, at this point, than with performing.  Whereas, you want to see him blow by the OT and crush the QB, he is more concerned with learning what plays come from what formations and what the QB&#039;s tendencies are.  He is still learning what his assignments are.  Does he cover the TE, fill the hole, or bull rush the OT.  As he knows that he will not be cut, he does not have the same motivation to show off for the coaching staff (and fans) as some other rookies might have.  We have all seen great College ball players not make it in the pros so, I understand your concern but, give him a year before you start worrying about him.  If he has not taken his game to the next level, by this time next year, then you can start worrying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DSmizzle, I hear you.  You want to see more effort than Gholston has shown, so far.   There are a few reasons why you should not be concerned.  He is learning a new position in a new league.  He is more concerned with learning, at this point, than with performing.  Whereas, you want to see him blow by the OT and crush the QB, he is more concerned with learning what plays come from what formations and what the QB&#8217;s tendencies are.  He is still learning what his assignments are.  Does he cover the TE, fill the hole, or bull rush the OT.  As he knows that he will not be cut, he does not have the same motivation to show off for the coaching staff (and fans) as some other rookies might have.  We have all seen great College ball players not make it in the pros so, I understand your concern but, give him a year before you start worrying about him.  If he has not taken his game to the next level, by this time next year, then you can start worrying.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s too early to discuss buttertarts.  Maybe in October we&#039;ll have a better idea as to which recipes work.</description>
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		<title>By: DSmizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96632</link>
		<dc:creator>DSmizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not quite concerned with being &quot;fair&quot;.  I&#039;m expressing my opinion based upon my observations.

We are all sometimes right and often wrong.

I&#039;m not a Gholston &quot;hater&quot;, I&#039;m a Gholston &quot;worrier&quot;.  Once again, my concern is not based on a few preseason games and a few weeks of practice.  Those practices and these games made my concerns worse.

Regardless, Harvlis, even though it is far to early to throw labels around like &quot;bust&quot; for Gholston or &quot;great player&quot; for Keller ... whats the point of a blog?  Also, I didn&#039;t throw that label at Gholston, you did it on my behalf!  Not cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite concerned with being &#8220;fair&#8221;.  I&#8217;m expressing my opinion based upon my observations.</p>
<p>We are all sometimes right and often wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Gholston &#8220;hater&#8221;, I&#8217;m a Gholston &#8220;worrier&#8221;.  Once again, my concern is not based on a few preseason games and a few weeks of practice.  Those practices and these games made my concerns worse.</p>
<p>Regardless, Harvlis, even though it is far to early to throw labels around like &#8220;bust&#8221; for Gholston or &#8220;great player&#8221; for Keller &#8230; whats the point of a blog?  Also, I didn&#8217;t throw that label at Gholston, you did it on my behalf!  Not cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Ferraro41</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96629</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferraro41</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for anyone else, but I&#039;m certainly not suggesting that we can&#039;t or shouldn&#039;t talk about it.  I just don&#039;t agree with you, that&#039;s all.  :=)

I think trying to draw conclusions about a guy after two pre-season games in which the guy is trying to not only learn life in the NFL, but learn a new position, is a tad unfair.  Just my opinion, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for anyone else, but I&#8217;m certainly not suggesting that we can&#8217;t or shouldn&#8217;t talk about it.  I just don&#8217;t agree with you, that&#8217;s all.  :=)</p>
<p>I think trying to draw conclusions about a guy after two pre-season games in which the guy is trying to not only learn life in the NFL, but learn a new position, is a tad unfair.  Just my opinion, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: DSmizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96624</link>
		<dc:creator>DSmizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are saying we shouldn&#039;t talk about it?

Isn&#039;t this a football blog?

If you have a feeling about a guy you shouldn&#039;t say anything because its &quot;early&quot;?

Okay, lets talk about buttertarts.  What is your favorite recipe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are saying we shouldn&#8217;t talk about it?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this a football blog?</p>
<p>If you have a feeling about a guy you shouldn&#8217;t say anything because its &#8220;early&#8221;?</p>
<p>Okay, lets talk about buttertarts.  What is your favorite recipe?</p>
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		<title>By: ramble914</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96621</link>
		<dc:creator>ramble914</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you guys who are worried or concerned are crazy! The guy is in the first month of his NFL career, is learning a new position in a new defensive scheme, and the word bust is already being used?

He hasn&#039;t even stepped on the field yet for a real game. No one has any idea what they are telling him to do in these pre-season games, and yet if he dosen&#039;t look like Lawrence Taylor people are concerned. GIVE HIM A CHANCE. At least wait until the end of his first full season before judging him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you guys who are worried or concerned are crazy! The guy is in the first month of his NFL career, is learning a new position in a new defensive scheme, and the word bust is already being used?</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t even stepped on the field yet for a real game. No one has any idea what they are telling him to do in these pre-season games, and yet if he dosen&#8217;t look like Lawrence Taylor people are concerned. GIVE HIM A CHANCE. At least wait until the end of his first full season before judging him!</p>
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		<title>By: Ferraro41</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96618</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferraro41</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just repeating much what has already been posted, but two pre-season games is a ridiculously small sample to start grading a guy.  I remember Parcell&#039;s used to always talk about rookies coming in thinking their talent would just overwhelm everyone, only to have the deer in the headlights look for 6 weeks of training camp as they suddenly realized they didn&#039;t know sh*t.

As many of you already posted, the reason he looks slow and un-aggressive is because HE HAS NO FREAKING IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING RIGHT NOW.  He&#039;s lost, and his play pretty much shows it.  Anyone on this list who has played football at any level knows that when you are sitting there pre-snap trying to think about what your responsibilities are instead of just *doing* it, you&#039;re done.  Finished.  You have no chance.

Once the season starts, I would bet dollars to donuts that the Jets D staff will only use him in certain packages, with minimal responsibilities outside of rushing the passer.  As the season goes along and he becomes more familiar with the defense (and therefore just reacts instead of thinking), he&#039;ll be on the field more and more.  

Let&#039;s give the guy a season before we start opining that we&#039;re &quot;worried&quot;.  If he still looks this way in December, I&#039;ll be officially worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just repeating much what has already been posted, but two pre-season games is a ridiculously small sample to start grading a guy.  I remember Parcell&#8217;s used to always talk about rookies coming in thinking their talent would just overwhelm everyone, only to have the deer in the headlights look for 6 weeks of training camp as they suddenly realized they didn&#8217;t know ****.</p>
<p>As many of you already posted, the reason he looks slow and un-aggressive is because HE HAS NO FREAKING IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING RIGHT NOW.  He&#8217;s lost, and his play pretty much shows it.  Anyone on this list who has played football at any level knows that when you are sitting there pre-snap trying to think about what your responsibilities are instead of just *doing* it, you&#8217;re done.  Finished.  You have no chance.</p>
<p>Once the season starts, I would bet dollars to donuts that the Jets D staff will only use him in certain packages, with minimal responsibilities outside of rushing the passer.  As the season goes along and he becomes more familiar with the defense (and therefore just reacts instead of thinking), he&#8217;ll be on the field more and more.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s give the guy a season before we start opining that we&#8217;re &#8220;worried&#8221;.  If he still looks this way in December, I&#8217;ll be officially worried.</p>
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		<title>By: DSmizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/18/give-gholston-time/#comment-96614</link>
		<dc:creator>DSmizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvlis:

I didn&#039;t say Gholston was a bust; I said I&#039;m worried about him being a bust!  

I agree 100% with &quot;All Things New York&quot; because he articulated my point better:  I&#039;m worried about Gholston but I didn&#039;t call him a bust after a few weeks of practice and 2 preseason games!

If you aren&#039;t a little bit worried about his not showing any flashes, whatsoever, then I agree you&#039;re sleeping.  Lets not forget that rookies are capable of showing flashes.  Lets also not forget the &quot;Over/Under&quot; stuff where people here were saying he might get 8-10 sacks.  I&#039;d LOVE to eat my words on this, but I&#039;m not sure he&#039;ll ever do that, let alone this year.

Look, my honest analysis is that he doesn&#039;t look like he is cut from the same mold as the guys he is compared to (Merriman, Ware, et al).  Athletically he&#039;s probably better.

One thing I do agree with, however, is that he seems like a great guy with a great head on his shoulders (in terms of being a good person/a Tangini-type).  Football-wise, not so much.

But I think its a little absurd to say I know nothing about professional football simply because I&#039;m worried, and always was worried, about Gholston!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvlis:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say Gholston was a bust; I said I&#8217;m worried about him being a bust!  </p>
<p>I agree 100% with &#8220;All Things New York&#8221; because he articulated my point better:  I&#8217;m worried about Gholston but I didn&#8217;t call him a bust after a few weeks of practice and 2 preseason games!</p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t a little bit worried about his not showing any flashes, whatsoever, then I agree you&#8217;re sleeping.  Lets not forget that rookies are capable of showing flashes.  Lets also not forget the &#8220;Over/Under&#8221; stuff where people here were saying he might get 8-10 sacks.  I&#8217;d LOVE to eat my words on this, but I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;ll ever do that, let alone this year.</p>
<p>Look, my honest analysis is that he doesn&#8217;t look like he is cut from the same mold as the guys he is compared to (Merriman, Ware, et al).  Athletically he&#8217;s probably better.</p>
<p>One thing I do agree with, however, is that he seems like a great guy with a great head on his shoulders (in terms of being a good person/a Tangini-type).  Football-wise, not so much.</p>
<p>But I think its a little absurd to say I know nothing about professional football simply because I&#8217;m worried, and always was worried, about Gholston!</p>
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