a top 5 QB in this league….brady, manning, romo…lock top 3…..whats chad??

please someone explain the debate…

There are a lot of tough decisions made on NFL personnel and no FO gets every single one right, including this one. But I just don’t see the evidence that this particular administration is even below average, let alone totally incompetent.

The idea that cutting Pennington was a huge mistake, disloyal, etc., is just one perspective. Another is that Chad got a bigger chance from Mangini than expected. Mangini, who had designed defenses against Pennington, never wanted Chad as his QB. Upon Mangini’s hiring he, like most people in the league, thought that it was over for Chad. Chad surprised him with a strong camp following it up with that Comeback Player Of The Year performance. But that, and the slow development of the young QB the FO drafted to replace Chad, simply delayed the inevitable. Mangini was never totally confident in Chad’s ability to take them all the way. The sudden availability of Favre – whether he takes them to the SB or not – was a ripe opportunity to make the transition to the type of QB the FO always imagined as their starter. Favre is not a long-term solution. But it’s now clear that in the view of the FO, and many fans, neither was Pennington. It would seem the belief was that Favre simply represented a short term solution with a little more potential upside.

Personally, I like the move. Though, I certainly see all the challenges associated with Favre’s age, unfamiliarity with the system, playbook, propensity for taking dangerous risks. It could absolutely blow up. Anyone who doesn’t recognize that is probably kidding themselves. But, as a matter of personal taste, I’d rather go down in a blaze of glory than a whimper like the team often has in the recent past. Maybe that’s the native New Yorker in me. And I have yet to hear any evidence from any source of a locker room split. Even Coles, Chad’s best friend, isn’t spouting any anti-Favre or anti-team propaganda. I won’t believe it exists until I see it.

I can understand the extreme disappointment from the fans who took the view that all of Pennington’s shortcomings were the result of poor play around him. I expect that people in that camp were crushed to see all the improvements made without Chad having the opportunity to benefit from them, redeem himself and silence his critics. I agree that Chad was one of the best QB’s the Jets have ever had, though we’ve had a lot of terrible QB’s. But Chad is not the Jets, to me. In my forty years of painful devotion to this team, he’s really a small blip on the radar. Eight years vs. thirty two. A nice blip, but no one player, or even group of players, is the team to a long-term fan.

I’ve been deeply disappointed by various moves by various Jet management groups over the years but I could never imagine rooting for the team to lose in order to prove I was right about my criticism regarding cutting a favorite player. That and being a fan just seem mutually exclusive, to me. I was born and raised a hard-core Knick fan. I made my own Walt Frazier jersey out of a tank top and blue and orange paint when I was eight. Yet, I have to say that the Dolan family and their poor management have all but totally alienated me from the team. I went from someone who watched almost every game to watching none. But if I happen to stumble on a game while flipping the channels, I still root for the Knicks to win. I can’t help it. Those blue and orange colors run deep.

Just like the green.

Go Jets!

There is no point to even debate about this. Some people are just throwing about comments that are based on pure emotions and personal agendas rather than facts and statistics.

Personal opinion and ideas mean nothing in the face of statistics and statistics show that Brett is a better Qb than Chad ever was.

Chemistry will hopefully be built throughtout the season but Brett and the offense looked might impressive last week against the skins. And that O line was getting a great push and protection.

Nikolas just has personal agendas with Chad. That is understandable because Chad was a very likeable guy but dont let that blind you into thinking that he is on the same level as Brett.

As for the long-term implications, it was pretty obvious that Chad’s tenure with the Jets was coming to a close. The problem was that his putative replacement, KC, is at present far less than mediocre. But, with the emergence of Ratliff (who fits my criteria for a successful NFL QB over KC), it looks like the Jets have an eventual replacement covered.

Now, the only question with Favre is whether in the short term he can mesh with the offense enough to run it better than Chad. Over time, there is no question, at least in my mind, that Favre will be able to run the offense better and, IMO, he will be better from the outset. The reason is that the threat of Favre throwing deep prevents a defense from press coverage on the WRs and 8-men in the box. That alone makes things easier for the offense.

Thus, from a football standpoint, getting Favre for a 4th rounder was a no-brainer. That he also makes PSLs easier to swallow just means Woody, Tanny and the FO are good at what they do. The real problem I have with Nikolas’ viewpoint is that the “same old Jets” would never have made the Favre move or wouldn’t have gotten him. This FO usually gets their targeted free agents. I don’t think the FO threw either Chad or the fans under the bus. Instead, what they’ve done is improve the QB position and, overall, the whole team and given the fans hope. That is a refreshing difference, no matter what ends up happening.

Doesnt it strike you as odd that the “great chad pennington” will be competing to be a starter on a team that went 1-15 last year?? What does that say about him?

If he was sooo gooood then there should be no competition and he should be the starter from day 1 with no contrevery. Especially on a 1-15 team. To me, that speaks a lot about Chad and his overall talent if he has to compete for a position on a 1-15 team.

Also, no one is giong to want the PSL and no one will go to any games if the Jets suck next year or 2 years from now. The Jets are building for now with their future in mind. It would not be a smart business decision to bring in Brett for 1 year, ruin the team, and send the organization back a few years in progrss. How will the organization make money then? They need to compete every year and bringing Brett is just a short term solution with the long term in mind.

I apologise if I misread your views on Favre, I read so many comments, that it gets hard to keep track of who thinks what.

I don’t think you should accuse me of misrepresentation and then emphasise half a quote which therefore takes the quote completely out of context. This was the full quote:
“If your intention is just to ruffle feathers for your own anthropological experimentation, I think we’d all prefer you to conduct these tests elsewhere.”

I am not concerned about being right. In fact, I didn’t even really express an opinion, other than that it is what it is and personally I’m just going to enjoy seeing what happens.