Comments on: David Harris Thinks Jenkins Work is ‘Lovely’

By: bilal

bilal — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:09:23 +0000

Sack,

Who knows with these “depth charts” because on newyorkjets.com its reverse.

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:11:02 +0000

Bilal,

Harris plays RILB (weak side), which suits his playmaking skills and allows him to rush the QB. You were right, Barton was the weakside OLB in Harm’s 4-3, but he’s the LILB in the Jets’ base 3-4. Here’s ESPN.com’s depth chart, which lists Harris and Pace on the weakside (right side). I hope Pace plays the weakside for the pass rush, but BT might not be good enough against the run to play the strongside.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/depth?team=nyj&formationId=15

By: Fonzie

Fonzie — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:03:40 +0000

I firmly believe that this year we will be ranked anywhere between 7 and 10 in total defense and #5 or better in at least three other statistical categories. I feel we need more players to step up (see Cummings and Murrelle as the the only players who have stood out in preseason) from our backup linebackers and linemen (Devito, Brown) so that we can pick up from our starters. Our execution is the key and we must dominate the trenches if we are to beat the teams that we must beat.

By: dakar

dakar — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:47:47 +0000

sutton is a good coach…horrible defensive play caller…
we need either mangini to call the defensive plays or demote sutton and promote some1 who knows how to call the defense…

this defense has been greatly improved with added talent… there is no reason why are defense should be run all over…its the play calling…that is why mangini should take over the defensive play calling…its obvious…our defense becomes so much better when he takes over…just my thoughts on the matter…

By: Bilal

Bilal — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:02:36 +0000

I could be wrong but I was always under the impression that Harris was a strongside ILB and Barton was a weakside ILB. If you were to translate 4/3 to 3/4, the 4/3 weakside LB moves to the 3/4 weakside ILB while the 4.3 MLB moves to 3/4 strongside ILB. Barton was always a 4/3 WLB before the Jets became a 3/4 defense.

Who knows with the Jets because last year for some reason Hobson was our weakside 3/4 LB and Bryan Thomas became a strongside 3/4 LB… and we continue to use Vernon Gholston at strongside LB so he can get lost covering the TE’s.

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:46:59 +0000

Bilal,

The starting Jets D will likely have Harris at weakside ILB and Pace at weakside OLB (he’s played both sides so far), so Coleman will have plenty of help. But, he can’t be blown off the LOS. If he can’t get the job done, Kareem Brown has looked pretty good.

By: BubbyBrister/shovelpass

BubbyBrister/shovelpass — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:28:17 +0000

but Kenyon Coleman came here with Bill Parcell’s personal recommendation! he has to be good, right? wink,wink.

By: Reprocity

Reprocity — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:26:36 +0000

Sack, I was pissed Samuels didnt get called for that but Its preseason for the Refs to…. I miss Donnie Henderson. This bend but dont break D has to go!

By: Bilal

Bilal — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:23:49 +0000

True, so lets hope Coleman is up to the task… i dont see it happening though.

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:11:15 +0000

I also keyed on Jenkins last game and most of the good runs by the Redskins were either when he was out, or runs to the left side when Gholston was in (and he was held by Samuels on one run). I said this last season and I’ll say it this season, there’s nothing the NG can do if the offense runs around the weakside end…that’s not the NG’s play…it’s the weakside ILB, weakside DE and weakside OLB that have to make the play. What do Seymour, Ngata and Castillo have in common, besides being studs? They’re all weakside DEs in the 3-4. It takes more than just an NG, no matter how good he is, to have a good run defense.