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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/29/discuss-is-gholston-a-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-128059</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look give him a chance he&#039;ll produce big let Ryan help him a little and will be good I say will be good in the middle of the season next year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look give him a chance he&#8217;ll produce big let Ryan help him a little and will be good I say will be good in the middle of the season next year</p>
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		<title>By: Bent</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/08/29/discuss-is-gholston-a-bust/comment-page-1/#comment-98083</link>
		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, on NFL Network last night, they were talking about struggling rookies and highlighted Chris Long and Gholston, but emphasised that they still think both will be good eventually and they mentioned - guess who - Gaines Adams, who was apparently struggling and looked lost too at this time last year and they noted how he came on in the second half of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, on NFL Network last night, they were talking about struggling rookies and highlighted Chris Long and Gholston, but emphasised that they still think both will be good eventually and they mentioned &#8211; guess who &#8211; Gaines Adams, who was apparently struggling and looked lost too at this time last year and they noted how he came on in the second half of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me? In no way shape or form is Gholston a bust, especially this short into his career. If Vernon Gholston was getting the Darren McFadden or Chris Long &quot;NFL ready&quot; hype coming out of the draft then there&#039;d be reason for concern but the man&#039;s been playing organized football for just over 5 years. 

Gholston has gotten a lot of time in the preseason and has basically been thrown into the fire, being asked to do everything an OLB is asked to do and it&#039;s clear he&#039;s not ready to be an every down player yet. Here&#039;s the thing though - DeMarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Terrell Suggs. All were drafted in the top 15 and played the same position Gholston did and were instant impact players from day one, but they weren&#039;t complete players from day one. Merriman still isn&#039;t. They all did their work in pass rushing situations, and blossomed into complete players later on in their careers - same idea as Gholston. 

I&#039;ll use Suggs here as a more detailed example. Suggs won defensive rookie of the year in 2003. He had 12 sacks that year and also forced 6 FF. He played in all 16 games, but here&#039;s the big stat - one start. Terrell Suggs started one game all year, yet had 12 sacks and won defensive rookie of the year. How? The Ravens knew that he wasn&#039;t ready to be an every down player in the NFL, but due to his natural ability as a pass rusher they kept him fresh and let him loose on passing downs and the result was an instant impact from their top rookie. 

It&#039;s the same idea with Gholston. Don&#039;t think for a second that when the lights come on and the games start to matter the Jets are going to play Gholston like they have in the preseason, basically throwing everything at him and seeing how he does. They&#039;re going to use him in a situation where he best helps them win games, and that&#039;s letting him loose and getting after the QB. 

I would not be the least bit surprised if in December Gholston is leading the team in sacks and in contention for DROTY(though if he&#039;s not starting I don&#039;t think he&#039;d deserve it). His technique is pretty poor as an all around football player right now but that&#039;s to be expected. But again, as a natural pass rusher his tools are elite. You keep a guy fresh with his first step and raw power and have him come off the edge on passing downs, he&#039;ll be just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me? In no way shape or form is Gholston a bust, especially this short into his career. If Vernon Gholston was getting the Darren McFadden or Chris Long &#8220;NFL ready&#8221; hype coming out of the draft then there&#8217;d be reason for concern but the man&#8217;s been playing organized football for just over 5 years. </p>
<p>Gholston has gotten a lot of time in the preseason and has basically been thrown into the fire, being asked to do everything an OLB is asked to do and it&#8217;s clear he&#8217;s not ready to be an every down player yet. Here&#8217;s the thing though &#8211; DeMarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Terrell Suggs. All were drafted in the top 15 and played the same position Gholston did and were instant impact players from day one, but they weren&#8217;t complete players from day one. Merriman still isn&#8217;t. They all did their work in pass rushing situations, and blossomed into complete players later on in their careers &#8211; same idea as Gholston. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll use Suggs here as a more detailed example. Suggs won defensive rookie of the year in 2003. He had 12 sacks that year and also forced 6 FF. He played in all 16 games, but here&#8217;s the big stat &#8211; one start. Terrell Suggs started one game all year, yet had 12 sacks and won defensive rookie of the year. How? The Ravens knew that he wasn&#8217;t ready to be an every down player in the NFL, but due to his natural ability as a pass rusher they kept him fresh and let him loose on passing downs and the result was an instant impact from their top rookie. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same idea with Gholston. Don&#8217;t think for a second that when the lights come on and the games start to matter the Jets are going to play Gholston like they have in the preseason, basically throwing everything at him and seeing how he does. They&#8217;re going to use him in a situation where he best helps them win games, and that&#8217;s letting him loose and getting after the QB. </p>
<p>I would not be the least bit surprised if in December Gholston is leading the team in sacks and in contention for DROTY(though if he&#8217;s not starting I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d deserve it). His technique is pretty poor as an all around football player right now but that&#8217;s to be expected. But again, as a natural pass rusher his tools are elite. You keep a guy fresh with his first step and raw power and have him come off the edge on passing downs, he&#8217;ll be just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: pat d</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gholston is not a bust he is a rookie playing a new position. The Jets made the right pick. It was a need and if they didn&#039;t the Pats would have taken him. Then what would have all the negative people be saying right now.

Now Clemens is a bust and we can&#039;t waste a roster spot on him with Mr. 253 consecetive games in a row on our team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gholston is not a bust he is a rookie playing a new position. The Jets made the right pick. It was a need and if they didn&#8217;t the Pats would have taken him. Then what would have all the negative people be saying right now.</p>
<p>Now Clemens is a bust and we can&#8217;t waste a roster spot on him with Mr. 253 consecetive games in a row on our team.</p>
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		<title>By: vbsiena24</title>
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		<dc:creator>vbsiena24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His HUGE upside warranted a high pick on him.  Plus the value was there on pick #6 according to all the &quot;experts&quot; it was the right pick and like all good things, will pay off in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His HUGE upside warranted a high pick on him.  Plus the value was there on pick #6 according to all the &#8220;experts&#8221; it was the right pick and like all good things, will pay off in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete57</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vernon G doesn&#039;t have a bust, he&#039;s a man! Wake up people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vernon G doesn&#8217;t have a bust, he&#8217;s a man! Wake up people!</p>
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		<title>By: dakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VG isn&#039;t a bust and when they put him in comfortable situations until he gets used to falling back in coverage where he is having trouble he will be used as a pasrusher where he will dominate and get his 8-10 sacks...and cause problems for offenses this year...along with the rest of our LBs...this is my optimism and these are just my thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VG isn&#8217;t a bust and when they put him in comfortable situations until he gets used to falling back in coverage where he is having trouble he will be used as a pasrusher where he will dominate and get his 8-10 sacks&#8230;and cause problems for offenses this year&#8230;along with the rest of our LBs&#8230;this is my optimism and these are just my thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Harvlis, I see your point.  My intention was that everyone would come on here and say &quot;of course he isn&#039;t a bust&quot; to make those that feel he is one think again.

Maybe I could have headed the thing up &quot;Opinion: Gholston is Not a Bust&quot; and then I would be getting props, but my style is to be balanced in the initial post.

All along I have been the one who is saying &quot;if he has a slow start (and he probably will), this doesn&#039;t mean he is - or will be - a bust&quot;, so it&#039;s amusing to catch some heat for raising the topic.

I guess it is similar to when I raised the issue of whether Jets fans would boo Pennington next year.  I wouldn&#039;t, and nor would the majority, but there are those that feel the opposite way - and therein lies the debate.

I hope you see why I did it this way and I am enjoying everyone&#039;s comments, so I feel happy with what I posted and glad that most commentors have drawn the same conclusion as me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Harvlis, I see your point.  My intention was that everyone would come on here and say &#8220;of course he isn&#8217;t a bust&#8221; to make those that feel he is one think again.</p>
<p>Maybe I could have headed the thing up &#8220;Opinion: Gholston is Not a Bust&#8221; and then I would be getting props, but my style is to be balanced in the initial post.</p>
<p>All along I have been the one who is saying &#8220;if he has a slow start (and he probably will), this doesn&#8217;t mean he is &#8211; or will be &#8211; a bust&#8221;, so it&#8217;s amusing to catch some heat for raising the topic.</p>
<p>I guess it is similar to when I raised the issue of whether Jets fans would boo Pennington next year.  I wouldn&#8217;t, and nor would the majority, but there are those that feel the opposite way &#8211; and therein lies the debate.</p>
<p>I hope you see why I did it this way and I am enjoying everyone&#8217;s comments, so I feel happy with what I posted and glad that most commentors have drawn the same conclusion as me.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvlis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvlis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DSmizzle,  The same way that Bent can bring up any topic on this blog - anyone can say that it was a stupid topic.  

If you think he is a bust - say it!   

I would say back to you that, &quot;if you can call a player a bust, after his first few pre-season games, after coming in late, while changing positions from a down lineman to an outside linebacker, as a ROOKIE - then you know jack-squat about pro football.

It is all about our opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DSmizzle,  The same way that Bent can bring up any topic on this blog &#8211; anyone can say that it was a stupid topic.  </p>
<p>If you think he is a bust &#8211; say it!   </p>
<p>I would say back to you that, &#8220;if you can call a player a bust, after his first few pre-season games, after coming in late, while changing positions from a down lineman to an outside linebacker, as a ROOKIE &#8211; then you know jack-squat about pro football.</p>
<p>It is all about our opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: The NYC Parking Expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>The NYC Parking Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we already know the answer is &quot;Not yet&quot; and moreover &quot;Gimme a break, NO ONE is a bust  at at his point in their career&quot;, what&#039;s the point in a debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we already know the answer is &#8220;Not yet&#8221; and moreover &#8220;Gimme a break, NO ONE is a bust  at at his point in their career&#8221;, what&#8217;s the point in a debate?</p>
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