Comments on: Is Hodges the Answer Long-Term? http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:44:19 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: sjfalcon2001 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101185 sjfalcon2001 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:52:28 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101185 It's hard to rate punters. Graham might have a better career average than Hodges, but last year and so far this season, he has shanked critical punts and he's been kicking line drives with little hang time. Coverage units need that hang time to make a play. Maybe (and I am just speculating) Hodges is more accurate and has better hang time, so they sacrificed distance to allow the coverage team to do its job. We won't know until they're on the field this week in SD, so we'll just have to wait. It’s hard to rate punters. Graham might have a better career average than Hodges, but last year and so far this season, he has shanked critical punts and he’s been kicking line drives with little hang time. Coverage units need that hang time to make a play. Maybe (and I am just speculating) Hodges is more accurate and has better hang time, so they sacrificed distance to allow the coverage team to do its job. We won’t know until they’re on the field this week in SD, so we’ll just have to wait.

]]> By: Harlan Lachman http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101175 Harlan Lachman Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:37:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101175 "Harlan, who did you want them to sign, when you cut a player after the season starts" Since he had a bad season last year, what I would have wanted is for our FO to have searched under every rock and tree, brought in the best guy(s) to compete in OTAs and training camp and go into the season with the best guy. Letting a two year vet go after two games in his third year after zero competition in OTAs and TC and preseason does not seem like good personnel management to me. You are right, now it is harder to find the right guy. Looking in January might have produced a different search and a competition might have avoided this late mistake. harlan “Harlan, who did you want them to sign, when you cut a player after the season starts”

Since he had a bad season last year, what I would have wanted is for our FO to have searched under every rock and tree, brought in the best guy(s) to compete in OTAs and training camp and go into the season with the best guy.

Letting a two year vet go after two games in his third year after zero competition in OTAs and TC and preseason does not seem like good personnel management to me.

You are right, now it is harder to find the right guy. Looking in January might have produced a different search and a competition might have avoided this late mistake.

harlan

]]> By: The Ed(itor) http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101150 The Ed(itor) Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:59:19 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101150 First of all I liked Chad but really like Brett. Mangini has let details get away from him this year which is NOT a good sign. Hodges doesn't sound to me like a huge improvement unless he had a leg transplant or was on steroids or growth hormones last year. Let's wait and see. But I still say, MANGINI MUST GO!!!! First of all I liked Chad but really like Brett. Mangini has let details get away from him this year which is NOT a good sign. Hodges doesn’t sound to me like a huge improvement unless he had a leg transplant or was on steroids or growth hormones last year. Let’s wait and see. But I still say, MANGINI MUST GO!!!!

]]> By: subwayfare http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101149 subwayfare Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:55:14 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101149 Why would anyone hate Pennington? He was a solid B player for years before his recent decline. Why would anyone hate Pennington? He was a solid B player for years before his recent decline.

]]> By: hank/naples http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101143 hank/naples Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:23:45 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101143 ALL THE FIRE MANGINI TALK IS JUST LIKE YELLING FIRE IN A THEATER, IT ALL STARTED WITH PENNIGTON HATERS !! ALL THE FIRE MANGINI TALK IS JUST LIKE YELLING FIRE IN A THEATER, IT ALL STARTED WITH PENNIGTON HATERS !!

]]> By: hank/naples http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101142 hank/naples Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:11:13 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101142 Zack: I saw your web site and it loks and the packages sound great. Congratulations on a great idea!! You are providing a service to lots of people that otherwise couldn't enjoy. Good luck in your new venture !! Hank Zack:

I saw your web site and it loks and the packages sound great. Congratulations on a great idea!! You are providing a service to lots of people that otherwise couldn’t enjoy. Good luck in your new venture !!

Hank

]]> By: pat d http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101134 pat d Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:46:09 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101134 sec108 It seems we actually agree. Firing Mangini would be a big mistake. I'm tired of having a new coach every three years. That is a recipe for failure. The guy is young and in his first head coaching job. He has made mistakes. I have criticised Mangini but it is at least three years too early to call for his head. Also a player isn't a bust until they have three years in the league sec108
It seems we actually agree.
Firing Mangini would be a big mistake. I’m tired of having a new coach every three years. That is a recipe for failure. The guy is young and in his first head coaching job. He has made mistakes. I have criticised Mangini but it is at least three years too early to call for his head.

Also a player isn’t a bust until they have three years in the league

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101121 SackDance99 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:53:46 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101121 Apparently Graham's holding for FGs detiorated as well as his consistency, which is the key. Graham became wildly inconsistent and there's nothing that control freak head coaches hate more than inconsistent punting or kicking. Also, I guess I was the only one who thought that, on balance, Feely was better than Nugent has been lately. Their stats are virtually the same for FGs between 30-39 yards (Nugent missed his only attempt at this distance at Miami) and Nugent was better at KOs. I don't get this love for Nugent, like the rest of the team, he severely underperformed last season and his KOs have been a joke. Apparently Graham’s holding for FGs detiorated as well as his consistency, which is the key. Graham became wildly inconsistent and there’s nothing that control freak head coaches hate more than inconsistent punting or kicking. Also, I guess I was the only one who thought that, on balance, Feely was better than Nugent has been lately. Their stats are virtually the same for FGs between 30-39 yards (Nugent missed his only attempt at this distance at Miami) and Nugent was better at KOs. I don’t get this love for Nugent, like the rest of the team, he severely underperformed last season and his KOs have been a joke.

]]> By: sec108 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101111 sec108 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:04:23 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101111 pat d, yes I was serious, I'm not saying field position isn't important, I know it is, I witnessed just how important it was in person on Sunday, all I was saying is that we are critiquing this like we just added a franchise QB or RB. Graham stats probably looked decent overall, but he had way to many shanks and bad punts for my liking the last few years and I can't really see this guy being any worse, at least they auditioned a few guys and picked the one they thought was best, if he sucks it up too then by all means kill the front office. I guess I am not as concerned because kicking games to me are like bullpens in baseball, their success can vary greatly from year to year with little ryhme or reason so I am not so quick to indict Tangini for the early season failure of it. David I, I wasn't referring to you on the calling for the head, that was another poster I forgot to list sorry. My point about Feely was that having to replace Nugent was a circumstance beyond their control, shoud they have had a contingency plan in Miami, absolutely, but that contingency is over when the game ends and then you look for a more permanent solution, so Feely would have been a new part regardless. pat d,

yes I was serious, I’m not saying field position isn’t important, I know it is, I witnessed just how important it was in person on Sunday, all I was saying is that we are critiquing this like we just added a franchise QB or RB. Graham stats probably looked decent overall, but he had way to many shanks and bad punts for my liking the last few years and I can’t really see this guy being any worse, at least they auditioned a few guys and picked the one they thought was best, if he sucks it up too then by all means kill the front office. I guess I am not as concerned because kicking games to me are like bullpens in baseball, their success can vary greatly from year to year with little ryhme or reason so I am not so quick to indict Tangini for the early season failure of it.

David I, I wasn’t referring to you on the calling for the head, that was another poster I forgot to list sorry. My point about Feely was that having to replace Nugent was a circumstance beyond their control, shoud they have had a contingency plan in Miami, absolutely, but that contingency is over when the game ends and then you look for a more permanent solution, so Feely would have been a new part regardless.

]]> By: david i http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/09/17/is-hodges-the-answer-long-term/comment-page-1/#comment-101107 david i Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:40:20 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=5978#comment-101107 sec108 I'm not calling for anyone's head. I think this team needs time to come together and I know Feeley was added due to an injury. I think Mangini's scrambling to find someone to kick an extra point during the Dolphin game showed lack of preperation. I am very disappointed Mangini has been missing some of the details and finer points. Now we have added a new kicker, punter, find a new place holder. Not the most important players on the roster, but when it comes to losing a game because Brad Smith misplaced a James Dearth snap as he held it for Jay Feeley, we'll all have to listen to another depressing post game conference. sec108

I’m not calling for anyone’s head. I think this team needs time to come together and I know Feeley was added due to an injury. I think Mangini’s scrambling to find someone to kick an extra point during the Dolphin game showed lack of preperation.

I am very disappointed Mangini has been missing some of the details and finer points. Now we have added a new kicker, punter, find a new place holder. Not the most important players on the roster, but when it comes to losing a game because Brad Smith misplaced a James Dearth snap as he held it for Jay Feeley, we’ll all have to listen to another depressing post game conference.

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