Comments on: Is Favre Fitting In?

By: scary

scary — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:14:48 +0000

Bent, thanks for your input. Hopefully you are correct. I’m concerned with Cincinnati playing Dallas this week and will probably fall to 0-5. Not many teams start 0-6 and I hate to see the JEts be their first victim.

By: Bent

Bent — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:27:32 +0000

scary – I was there. The second half comeback was fuelled by a number of things. Yes, it was done against a prevent defense. Sure, they took more risks (and it cost them as they had a couple more turnovers). 15 quick points came with an onside kick in between giving them great field position. Warner did get into a rhythm picking apart the soft zone, although they never got close to getting within one score.

The key in my eyes was that they rested Jenkins throughout much of the second half and if you recall, he also missed much of the SD game, which also was not as bad as the 48 points made it seem because there were turnovers creating TDs and a short field on a few occasions. Up 34, they were probably right to rest Jenkins, who is clearly a key to this team. They need somebody else in the rotation to step up and be more effective at the nose though and it hasn’t happened yet.

In conclusion, the defense isn’t as bad as 80+ points in two games makes it look and with the starters in has been really good overall.

By: scary

scary — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:42:13 +0000

Granted letting Favre go and do what he does will help this offense, but what about the defense? This team only gave up 33 points over the first 2 games. The next two accumulated to over 80 and now they’re average is nearly giving up 30 points per game which is an obvious concern. As you can imagine I don’t get many Jet games in San Antonio so anybody who saw the 56-35 thrashing of the Cardinals can answer a question. Was the Jet defense that bad in the 2nd half or were they just lax because of the trmendous halftime lead? If it’s the former this team is in deep trouble because I don’t see them putting up 30-40 points every week.

By: EssentialEducator

EssentialEducator — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:04:59 +0000

Pete-

My point is that it is still early to say we’re a better team with Favre. One thing with Pennington, is that he rarely made mistakes but rarely ever opened up games. Like you said, Favre will obviously have his downs. But how many downs is the question? Last week indicated that he is more likely to have more ups then downs, but I’ll be more confident to say that once he performs against a good defense, particularly against the pass.

I’m more or less criticizing some of the optimism that I deem a little too much at this point in the year. Favre had a great game, so now it’s a great move. Well, I think it will probably end up being a good move. But I also know that he has a lot to prove before I’m satisfied saying the move worked.

By: subwayfare

subwayfare — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:44:51 +0000

All I can say is these Favre detractors partial to the ultra-modest, studious, boy scout type would have hated Joe Namath.

By: Cameron

Cameron — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:16:38 +0000

“The Jets best reciever would be # 3 on the packers” – Tom Jackson

By: John E.

John E. — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:48:11 +0000

Great post Sack- You hit upon some great points!!!
There are folks that just do not like #4. I have not missed one of his games since he began playing for the Pack. Sure he has had many heart-breaking interceptions for Packer fans, but do you know how many passes in his career he has completed that no one else would even attempt???? Many of those completions sustained game winning drives, and others simply won the game.

Also, Sunday was no fluke- having watched him for so many years, I can tell you that it was the first game since playing for the Jets that he looked comfortable.

Don’t doubt him- just sit back and enjoy the time he will spend with the Jets!!!

By: Pete57

Pete57 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:56:51 +0000

Sack, can’t even start to understand those guys. I think it comes down to a certain personality type. They just choose to be miserable, and then have to concoct reasons for their misery.

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:16:31 +0000

I have to say that I think the ‘Favre is too much of a gunslinger” criticism is like bemoaning that Ryan Howard doesn’t hit for average or Albert Pujols doesn’t steal bases. Favre is on the short list of one of the greatest QBs in NFL history. That’s why along with the negative (INTs), he also has the most TDs, Wins and consecutive game starts in NFL history. He isn’t just a “gunslinger” he’s a great leader and tactical QB that goes for the jugular better that any QB that I’ve ever seen.

Now, what we’ve also seen is that his intelligence may match his amazing athletic prowess (like Pedro Martinez at his peak, you look at Brett, who is not a big guy, and marvel at his rocket-launcher arm). He was tossing passes to high school kids on August 6th. His first Jets practice was August 9 and on September 28, he tossed 6 TD passes in a Jets win. That is simply awesome.

Guys like hank/naples and Nikolas pine away for Chad. I like Chad, Chad’s a good QB and was an inspirational figure. But, Chad is no Brett Favre. Not even close. And, as for “gunslinger” which I interpret as throwing reckless INTs, Chad post-shoulder injury of 2004 was barely over 1 TD pass to 1 INT. Favre just needs 11 more TD passes to have more in a Jets uniform than Chad ever had and, when Brett gets 6 more, he’ll have a higher total than Chad ever had post-2002. For reference, Chad also had a career high of 16 INTs in his only full 16 game season as a the Jets starter. While Brett may have more INTs than Chad ever had, Brett could smash the Jets single-season record for passing TDs, which is 29 by Vinny in ‘98.

So, hank/naples, Nikolas, and all other Favre haters, enjoy the ride, you’re getting to see one of the greatest players in NFL history perform.

By: Pete57

Pete57 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:43:29 +0000

Essential, of course Favre and the Jets will have ups and downs. The point is that the team has been aggressive in improving the roster. Case in point, trading for Favre makes the Jets a better team. We can always look at any part of the team and say it needs improvement. But the Jets are a better team right now than they were 2 months, 6 months, a year ago. That’s whats important. Not really understanding your point.