Shepherd would certainly improve the secondary but I though the whole issue with him was that he wants a boatload of money.

I’m happy for all the former Jets doing well elsewhere as long as they don’t negatively affect the Jets season in any way. I also shrieked with joy when Schaub ran that ball in. Though I cried when they blew the two-point conversion costing me at least a push in my pool.

Vilma’s a great fit in the NO 4-3. Second in the league in tackles, I think. Good for him. Don’t recall the details on that trade but hope it’s performance based and he keeps it up. Unless we face him in the SB, of course. D-Rob has missed one game, I think, and has 6 tackles over 5. Wouldn’t count on getting anything there.

Does anyone remember that one?

What I was upset about was the Bengals coming out as a team on defense. I couldn’t yell “Sucks” after every players name.

1) He has a running game. Michael Turner has killed in some games.

2) His receivers, namely Roddy White , were performing even last year when they had a nobody back there.

I think that team was looking good and all they needed was a QB so I disagree that they were piss poor even though they were 4-12.

Pete57: Your Pennington argument has its merits, but I still say you can’t use this Sunday’s game to strengthen your case. Pennington did all he could do (as I said the interception was not his fault and, as I said, he did actually lead them on a go-ahead TD drive, but it was their defense that blew it). If Baker bobbles Favre’s third down pass at the goalline and it is picked off and then the Bengals drive down for the winning score, is that Favre’s fault? But I agree, we dwell too much on Chad. For the record we all went crazy when Schaub scored the winning TD.

Repoman: Denver’s line looked good last week – with and without D-Rob. He rotates in and out though, so I don’t hold out much hope for the % of snaps clause, whatever that may be (several different versions were reported and, knowing the Jets, they were probably all worse than the actual position). Vilma this week against the Raiders was awesome. He made plays in the backfield. Solid, knock-back hits, the likes of which we never saw out of him in the 3-4, whether that be because of dicomfort with the scheme or his knee. And he played deep into the fourth quarter even though it was a blowout. As sack says, Pete Kendall goofed badly this week and was pretty distraught afterwards. Meanwhile, John Abraham is leading the league in sacks. And Justin McCareins in averaging 16.5 yards per catch for the 5-0 Titans.

Jon: The key isn’t to blitz Russell to force him into mistakes, but rather to drop guys back and mix up the coverages and bait him into bad throws. Colt David did this perfectly on Sunday. Right now, Russell has no chemistry with his receivers whatsoever. Blitzing him is risky, because if you get to him, he is still strong enough to stay upright and make a throw.

Subwayfare: The Jets are about 1.7m under the cap having restructured Kenyon Coleman’s deal a few weeks ago. Trading Baker, who was recently extended, but with only a $1m signing bonus, creates over $1m of dead cap space (which reduces the spending money available for next year) and would actually use up a net of about $250K against this year’s cap because the cap hit exceeds the salary saved. I think Gonzo’s cap number is $1m so they could theoretically just about afford him, but it would tie them up completely if they needed to make another move. Gonzo could then be cut or traded next year for no cost, or retained, where I think his cap number would be $4m – again something which the Jets may struggle to afford if looking to fill other needs. I can’t see it, but it is possible financially. If the Jets think it is going to make them a better team, they might consider it, but age, future financial flexibility and the question of whether he is an upgrade until he has learned the system will all be taken into account.

Bent?