Comments on: After Further Review: 3-And-Out http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105458 Bent Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:47:25 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105458 Sack/Bubby - I posted this about Vilma the other day: "Vilma this week against the Raiders was awesome. He made plays in the backfield. Solid, knock-back hits, the likes of which we never saw out of him in the 3-4, whether that be because of dicomfort with the scheme or his knee. And he played deep into the fourth quarter even though it was a blowout. " So, are you prepared to say he's a stud Sack or do you have to see it with your own eyes? Sack/Bubby – I posted this about Vilma the other day:

“Vilma this week against the Raiders was awesome. He made plays in the backfield. Solid, knock-back hits, the likes of which we never saw out of him in the 3-4, whether that be because of dicomfort with the scheme or his knee. And he played deep into the fourth quarter even though it was a blowout. ”

So, are you prepared to say he’s a stud Sack or do you have to see it with your own eyes?

]]> By: NYFOOTBALLGIANTS http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105446 NYFOOTBALLGIANTS Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:07:40 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105446 Mike G-you lied to me and told me your name was jesusrevis. I know this becuase what you said to me in my backyard was the exact thing as MikeG posted, which also happens to be your first name and last initial. Ny Giants superbowl 42 champions losers. Gholston is disgracing the #56. PS - Those titans jerseys are scrappy Mike G-you lied to me and told me your name was jesusrevis. I know this becuase what you said to me in my backyard was the exact thing as MikeG posted, which also happens to be your first name and last initial.

Ny Giants superbowl 42 champions losers.

Gholston is disgracing the #56.

PS – Those titans jerseys are scrappy

]]> By: Mike G http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105420 Mike G Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:36:35 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105420 Gholsten can still become a stud, so far he hasnt had a chance to show what he really is. Gholsten can still become a stud, so far he hasnt had a chance to show what he really is.

]]> By: Mike G http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105419 Mike G Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:35:09 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105419 Im so sick of listening to people complain about Vernon Gholston. This is guy is playing behind 2 OLB's (Pace & Thomas) who are both playing at pro bowl levels. So why should a rookie, regardless of how high he was drafted, play over two good veteran players? If the jets were getting no production from one of the OLB spots then this would be a big concern but as long as Thomas and Pace play at this level it doesnt matter if gholsten makes any plays. If anything I think its exciting we have such a talented athletic young player on our bench for the future. Mario Williams started every game as a rookie and only recorded 4.5 sacks, last year he had 14 and at this point hes pretty much averaging a sack a game. Use this as an example that sometimes players take time to develop, even ones who are drafted very high. Im so sick of listening to people complain about Vernon Gholston. This is guy is playing behind 2 OLB’s (Pace & Thomas) who are both playing at pro bowl levels. So why should a rookie, regardless of how high he was drafted, play over two good veteran players? If the jets were getting no production from one of the OLB spots then this would be a big concern but as long as Thomas and Pace play at this level it doesnt matter if gholsten makes any plays. If anything I think its exciting we have such a talented athletic young player on our bench for the future.

Mario Williams started every game as a rookie and only recorded 4.5 sacks, last year he had 14 and at this point hes pretty much averaging a sack a game. Use this as an example that sometimes players take time to develop, even ones who are drafted very high.

]]> By: BubbyBrister/shovelpass http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105410 BubbyBrister/shovelpass Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:30:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105410 Sack - I see your points, except for your view that Vilma is not a stud yet. But that's okay. Does Vilma's good play help with our draft pick from the Saints? Sack – I see your points, except for your view that Vilma is not a stud yet. But that’s okay. Does Vilma’s good play help with our draft pick from the Saints?

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105405 SackDance99 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:12:52 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105405 Bubby- Vilma is no. 2 in the NFL (but 1 in the NFC) in tackles. But, while he's racking up the numbers, the list of the top LBs in tackles includes some of the worst defenses in the NFL (not a surprise, good teams tend to stop more plays at the line, especially in the 4-3), individual stats are skewed until every team has a bye and there's no doubt that Willis is having the more complete season--he has a sack, and INT (for a TD) and 6 passes defended, while Vilma has no sacks and no passes defended. The 4-3 is better for Vilma, but I watched him against Minny and when I see him actually meet an RB in the hole with a perfect tackle for a loss, then I'll say he's a stud, like Marvin Jones was (remember his tackle on Jarrod Bunch, who was a load? It looked like Bunch was hit by a cannon ball) or David Harris is. Bubby-

Vilma is no. 2 in the NFL (but 1 in the NFC) in tackles. But, while he’s racking up the numbers, the list of the top LBs in tackles includes some of the worst defenses in the NFL (not a surprise, good teams tend to stop more plays at the line, especially in the 4-3), individual stats are skewed until every team has a bye and there’s no doubt that Willis is having the more complete season–he has a sack, and INT (for a TD) and 6 passes defended, while Vilma has no sacks and no passes defended.

The 4-3 is better for Vilma, but I watched him against Minny and when I see him actually meet an RB in the hole with a perfect tackle for a loss, then I’ll say he’s a stud, like Marvin Jones was (remember his tackle on Jarrod Bunch, who was a load? It looked like Bunch was hit by a cannon ball) or David Harris is.

]]> By: Pete57 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105404 Pete57 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:03:32 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105404 Bubby, he had a lot of tackles with the Jets too. Alot of his tackles are with the RB moving forward gaining yardage. He doesn't have many where he stuffs the run. That is a huge difference. Bubby, he had a lot of tackles with the Jets too. Alot of his tackles are with the RB moving forward gaining yardage. He doesn’t have many where he stuffs the run. That is a huge difference.

]]> By: BubbyBrister/shovelpass http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105403 BubbyBrister/shovelpass Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:53:40 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105403 A little off-topic, but has anyone noticed who is second in the NFL in tackles made? One spot above the vaulted Patrick Willis? wait for it.... wait for it... why its none other than Jonathan Vilma! The guy is still a stud! A little off-topic, but has anyone noticed who is second in the NFL in tackles made? One spot above the vaulted Patrick Willis?

wait for it….

wait for it…

why its none other than Jonathan Vilma!

The guy is still a stud!

]]> By: ian http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105398 ian Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:07:32 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105398 aside from the talk about VG, i'd like to second all the thoughts on jenkins. he has been great. also, this was a very good post--nice, thoughtful analysis that goes beyond headlines. aside from the talk about VG, i’d like to second all the thoughts on jenkins. he has been great. also, this was a very good post–nice, thoughtful analysis that goes beyond headlines.

]]> By: NY Titan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/10/15/after-further-review-3-and-out/#comment-105394 NY Titan Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:10:04 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=6678#comment-105394 Gholston is certainly taking his sweet time, but like some of you, I don't mind. I am perfectly happy with BT and think Pace is an absolute monster! Let's let Vern learn at his own pace, and if he is still invisible during camp next year, then we can worry. Gholston is certainly taking his sweet time, but like some of you, I don’t mind. I am perfectly happy with BT and think Pace is an absolute monster! Let’s let Vern learn at his own pace, and if he is still invisible during camp next year, then we can worry.

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