I agree, Mangini is a brilliant Manager and therefore very loyal to those under him. But because of this it restricts his coaching ability by staying with a player or assistant too long. Also a coach must have the ability to motivate, threaten at times to shake things up and he finds this an affront to his sence of loyalty. For this reason I think he requires character so highly in those around him. Mangini is not going anywhere. If anything he will make a perfect GM. Think about it and all the incredible Managerial traits he has.

Too bad you can’t split the baby in two. But don’t worry, he’ll make the Jets winners.

Thats not what I was trying to say at all. Mangini has to make a concerted effort to change the way they gameplan on offense. A little conhesion and an executive decision is all Im asking for. I happen to think Mangini is a brilliant defensive mind and it shows because of the play of guys he has helped develop, Asante Samuel, Darelle Revis, Kerry Rhodes, even to some extent Rodney Harrison. I actually want him to have MORE control. If things arent going right with the people HE hired, he needs to step and kick some ass. I think he actually selling himself short because Schottenhiemer and Sutton aren’t even close to him in coaching ability. Im also surprised coming from the Parcells/ Belechik school, where if there hasnt been consistent offensive/ defensive approach by cords. for 22 games, that he hasnt stripped someone of play calling duties or fired them, that he has such a long leash with Schittenhiemer or Clueless Bob. Mangini is at the crossroads right now man, he needs to take the ship and steer it, and with the personel the Jets have now, he has no excuses, it’s all on him now to do BY ANY MEAN NECESSARY what he needs to do to get them going.

Thanks for the Blessing, you too my friend. Go Chad !!!(just kidding)

2) I guarantee you that Favre is not the only player in the NFL, or any other pro sports league, who uses his leverage as an accomplished player to be excused from having to be paraded around in front of a business luncheon in May. But, again, this negates one of your favorite arguments: that Favre is here solely for promotion and not for winning games.

3) On several occasions Mangini has stated that he seeks input from all players: “I’ve got to do a much better job. Part of that is continuing to develop relationships with the players and incorporating more of their insight into the process. We have a lot of really smart veteran players and it’s important to have that good dialogue.” Every QB in the NFL is not only allowed, but required to audible plays at the line based on defensive looks.

4) I was only trying to make you feel better about having to root for a team featuring a player you so vehemently detest. Imagine if fate had made you a Giants fan instead and you had to cheer on Plaxico and his even more peculiar team values.

Feel blessed, my friend! Go Jets!

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1) I’m NOT “implying” that the promotion clause was removed from Farves contract- IT IS A FACT !!

2)You rant and rave about being too old, too busy, too much on his plate, STUDY A PLAYBOOK (brain capacity eaten up by Vicodin,Oxycontin, Percocett addiction?) not enough time etc, etc,etc to be bothered by promoting the Jets…………………… in the OFFSEASON ?

3)Farves input goes into every “game specific” game plan every sunday and has permission ie. is allowed to call the plays AND audible during the game– FACT

4) Your reasoning for bringing Plaxico into this discussion is convoluted to say the least !!!!

Once the season opening roster was set it’s win or lose as the team we have, as far as I’m concerned.

Just be grateful you’re not a Giants fan. How would you root for an outfit with a “team” player the likes of Plaxico Burress?

Or would he be okay because he wears the right colored undergarments and listens to the correct music while he skips practice without even calling and curses at the coach after taking a bad penalty?

Boy, you guys are tough !!! I guess if the Jets do make the playoffs all kudos go to Farve, right?

I agree with 90% of what you say, everything except for the Mangini being a better coach regardless of whether or not the Favre marriage is deemed a sucess. If this doesnt work there wont be QB worth spit that will ever want to play for him. Guys will say that this guy and his staff are QB killers. If they couldnt get the all time leader in just about every significant passing stat to be somewhat sucessful in their offense, and also make him look sloppy or just plain bad, Manginis done. No team will ever believe in him and he should just be put out of his misery. Listen this is year 3 now, plus hes got a HOF QB. Favre has always managed some sucess with every coach he played for. He made the playoffs with Holmgren, Mike Sherman and Mike McCarthy. All different offensive systems, all the same result, playoff win. Mangini and Schott ,who is on borrowed time and will never get another job in the NFL again after hes done with the Jets, have to change something whether it be the way they gameplan or just general approach to the game, like I said no playoffs, not a single coach on that team deserves to keep his job

“You imply that a contract clause to be relived of promotional duties is an indication of Favre’s lack of loyalty to the team. It’s just as likely that a 39 year old guy, playing for a new team after 17 years with another, moving his family to a new home, etc., has enough on his plate and would prefer to direct what energy he has to commitments on the football field rather than at dog and pony shows. ”

In the offseason?