Comments on: Buzz: Mangini Informed Players Their Roles Weren’t Safe http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:49:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: BubbyBrister/shovelpass http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108119 BubbyBrister/shovelpass Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:46:45 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108119 I'm guessing Hank is the anti-STYNE. His hate on all things Favre is similar to Johnny Styne's hate on all things Chad. Yup, we've got an ecclectic bunch on this site. But you've gotta love (and respect) the different points of view, right?! But we all dod agree on one thing... J-E-T-S! Jets! Jets!! Jets!!! I’m guessing Hank is the anti-STYNE. His hate on all things Favre is similar to Johnny Styne’s hate on all things Chad.

Yup, we’ve got an ecclectic bunch on this site. But you’ve gotta love (and respect) the different points of view, right?!

But we all dod agree on one thing…

J-E-T-S! Jets! Jets!! Jets!!!

]]> By: Eddie DiGio http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108115 Eddie DiGio Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:29:24 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108115 Pete57, You are right on the money. He has never once said something good about him without some remark. All he does is rip on him about his addiction to painkillers 15 years ago, like that's funny. The guy is our HOF starting QB that has instantly given us credibility and he acts like we're all idiots for rooting for him. He acts like it's Mangini and Schottenhiemer vs Favre, meanwhile they are the guys who traded for him. You think they dont KNOW they need him. As soon as Brett considered the trade over here, the deal could not have happened quicker and Chad was gone. Hank would rather be RIGHT about Favre then see the Jets WIN with him... Pete57,
You are right on the money. He has never once said something good about him without some remark. All he does is rip on him about his addiction to painkillers 15 years ago, like that’s funny. The guy is our HOF starting QB that has instantly given us credibility and he acts like we’re all idiots for rooting for him. He acts like it’s Mangini and Schottenhiemer vs Favre, meanwhile they are the guys who traded for him. You think they dont KNOW they need him. As soon as Brett considered the trade over here, the deal could not have happened quicker and Chad was gone. Hank would rather be RIGHT about Favre then see the Jets WIN with him…

]]> By: Eddie DiGio http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108110 Eddie DiGio Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:14:26 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108110 My man Bubby B, Yea it was either the Elway comparison or Montana but I went with Elway because they won it all! I guess even when we have a legend people will still want more. Just what I can't understand is why the hankster can't see that Schottenhiemer obviously changed his approach yesterday. The offense was where it was because he was trying to do quantum physics out there and all we needed was basic chemistry. I mean i guess you could say it was more conservative but we only ran for 98 yards. It worked because there was BALANCE. Because when they went to something they used it and saw it through til it was time to do something else. That is how rythym and tempo is established. That is how 5 yrd slants turn into 30 yards of YAC. That wasnt conservative, smashmouth football, it was balanced delibrate offensive play calling, run A to setup B, once we establish A and B, we can run C. Its that simple. I guess people have the right to feel whatever they want about Favre. But the truth is the guy could hang it up right now and he is set for life. But he's here, with us, busting his ass to try to make us a winner. Every guy in the locker room loves him. He has taken a beating out there and he keeps getting up. Have you ever seen him once show up his line after a few obvious dismal efforts? He's accountable for every mistake he's made out there. That pick yesterday was because the back missed the blitz pickup, brett got drilled and it took something off the throw. If he doesnt get hit, that ball is incomplete or J CO gets it. What does he do?; he rallys the troops for a short FG and we win. What hank refuses to understand is that its Schottenhiemer's job to put his players in the best position to suceed. His offensive approach and play selection had not only 99% of the fans agitated but his own players too. There was not one football expert who agreed that Bri Schot was giving a satisfactory effort. He and Favre needed to meet somewhere in the middle. Unfortunately for him ,Favre has the track record so B Schot gets most of the blame. Yesterday he called the game as if there was a rhyme and reason, not lets spin the magic wheel and whatever play it lands on lets do it. Hank wanted Favre to play within the gameplan, but there was no gameplan. Yesterday there was one, and we saw the results. Chad had taken us as far as he was gonna take us, this trade had to be made because this organization owed it to us to bring in a HOF QB who could be the unquestioned leader. Lets face it, the Jet players knew Chad had limitations. Now they know that they have a guy who can make any throw, anywhere on the field. It instantly makes the whole offense more dangerous. Truth of the matter is there is gonna come a time when we are gonna need Brett to put it on someone or make someone pay by going deep. In the Arizona game we established our downfield passing game. Yesterday we established what we can do when they take away the deep ball. Now defenses are gonna have to pick there poison. With Brett we can now do both, and god bless him but that is something that Chad could never do. All we have to do now is continue to mature and gel as a unit, sit back and enjoy the show!!!!!!!!! My man Bubby B,

Yea it was either the Elway comparison or Montana but I went with Elway because they won it all! I guess even when we have a legend people will still want more. Just what I can’t understand is why the hankster can’t see that Schottenhiemer obviously changed his approach yesterday. The offense was where it was because he was trying to do quantum physics out there and all we needed was basic chemistry. I mean i guess you could say it was more conservative but we only ran for 98 yards. It worked because there was BALANCE. Because when they went to something they used it and saw it through til it was time to do something else. That is how rythym and tempo is established. That is how 5 yrd slants turn into 30 yards of YAC. That wasnt conservative, smashmouth football, it was balanced delibrate offensive play calling, run A to setup B, once we establish A and B, we can run C. Its that simple.

I guess people have the right to feel whatever they want about Favre. But the truth is the guy could hang it up right now and he is set for life. But he’s here, with us, busting his ass to try to make us a winner. Every guy in the locker room loves him. He has taken a beating out there and he keeps getting up. Have you ever seen him once show up his line after a few obvious dismal efforts? He’s accountable for every mistake he’s made out there. That pick yesterday was because the back missed the blitz pickup, brett got drilled and it took something off the throw. If he doesnt get hit, that ball is incomplete or J CO gets it. What does he do?; he rallys the troops for a short FG and we win. What hank refuses to understand is that its Schottenhiemer’s job to put his players in the best position to suceed. His offensive approach and play selection had not only 99% of the fans agitated but his own players too. There was not one football expert who agreed that Bri Schot was giving a satisfactory effort. He and Favre needed to meet somewhere in the middle. Unfortunately for him ,Favre has the track record so B Schot gets most of the blame. Yesterday he called the game as if there was a rhyme and reason, not lets spin the magic wheel and whatever play it lands on lets do it. Hank wanted Favre to play within the gameplan, but there was no gameplan. Yesterday there was one, and we saw the results.

Chad had taken us as far as he was gonna take us, this trade had to be made because this organization owed it to us to bring in a HOF QB who could be the unquestioned leader. Lets face it, the Jet players knew Chad had limitations. Now they know that they have a guy who can make any throw, anywhere on the field. It instantly makes the whole offense more dangerous. Truth of the matter is there is gonna come a time when we are gonna need Brett to put it on someone or make someone pay by going deep. In the Arizona game we established our downfield passing game. Yesterday we established what we can do when they take away the deep ball. Now defenses are gonna have to pick there poison. With Brett we can now do both, and god bless him but that is something that Chad could never do. All we have to do now is continue to mature and gel as a unit, sit back and enjoy the show!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Pete57 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108102 Pete57 Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:34:25 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108102 Hank, I think you are accusing some of us fans of having a "crush" on Favre, when it is not true. It is the other way around. It's not that we give him too much credit, it's that you give him none. I have criticized Favre, and so has just about everyone else, but you have never complimented his play. I really believe you are the one who is biased, not the rest of us. Side note to Fonzie: I have never made a comment about James Hardy. There is a poster on this site called simply "Pete". Possibly you were mistaken. Hank, I think you are accusing some of us fans of having a “crush” on Favre, when it is not true. It is the other way around. It’s not that we give him too much credit, it’s that you give him none. I have criticized Favre, and so has just about everyone else, but you have never complimented his play. I really believe you are the one who is biased, not the rest of us.

Side note to Fonzie: I have never made a comment about James Hardy. There is a poster on this site called simply “Pete”. Possibly you were mistaken.

]]> By: BubbyBrister/shovelpass http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108090 BubbyBrister/shovelpass Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:45:28 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108090 Hank - you are absolutely correct. You forgot to sign the above comments... (psych!) Hank – you are absolutely correct. You forgot to sign the above comments…

(psych!)

]]> By: See, there you guys go again!!! http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108087 See, there you guys go again!!! Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:30:26 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108087 Correction... forgot to sign above comments. Hank Correction… forgot to sign above comments.

Hank

]]> By: See, there you guys go again!!! http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108086 See, there you guys go again!!! Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:28:55 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108086 When we win "Farve manages the game almost perfect. " Digusting game plan, terible plays called, let Farve be Farve etc fire the coaches, etc, etc. when we lose. Sorry guys, even if we run for over 200 yds you will still credit Farve for brillant game management even if he throws knucklehead INT's. When we win “Farve manages the game almost perfect. ” Digusting game plan, terible plays called, let Farve be Farve etc fire the coaches, etc, etc. when we lose. Sorry guys, even if we run for over 200 yds you will still credit Farve for brillant game management even if he throws knucklehead INT’s.

]]> By: BubbyBrister/shovelpass http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108072 BubbyBrister/shovelpass Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:25:05 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108072 Well said eddie. I agree on your Elway comparison too. Favre managed the game nearly perfect. it was a pleasure to not be screaming at my TV set like last week. Lets hope that stop on 4th down is to the Jets what the goal line stance against the Redskins was to the Giants last year.... Well said eddie. I agree on your Elway comparison too. Favre managed the game nearly perfect. it was a pleasure to not be screaming at my TV set like last week. Lets hope that stop on 4th down is to the Jets what the goal line stance against the Redskins was to the Giants last year….

]]> By: md http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108069 md Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:11:08 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108069 okay, after sending my post one minute after sec 108, my points are somewhat redundant. I'm glad to see others noted the same. okay, after sending my post one minute after sec 108, my points are somewhat redundant. I’m glad to see others noted the same.

]]> By: md http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-108068 md Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:08:53 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/buzz-mangini-informed-players-their-roles-werent-safe/#comment-108068 It's simplistic to say the Jets won because they took the ball out of Favre's hands. Nor did they. Schott remembered the play action pass and the quick slants, which Favre can deliver to a receiver in stride as well as anyone. And, clearly, the communication between Favre and the receivers took a leap forward, as bound to happen eventually considering Favre has only been with the team for half the season. Additionally, the pass protection was excellent against a top, heavy rushing defense. This game, for a change, he had time. Favre's presence also helps the running game. It was noted that the Bills' DBs were playing off. Whether or not he completes a pass over the top is only half the point. The Bill know that he CAN, and therefore they can't stack the box as they did with Chad. It’s simplistic to say the Jets won because they took the ball out of Favre’s hands. Nor did they. Schott remembered the play action pass and the quick slants, which Favre can deliver to a receiver in stride as well as anyone. And, clearly, the communication between Favre and the receivers took a leap forward, as bound to happen eventually considering Favre has only been with the team for half the season. Additionally, the pass protection was excellent against a top, heavy rushing defense. This game, for a change, he had time.
Favre’s presence also helps the running game. It was noted that the Bills’ DBs were playing off. Whether or not he completes a pass over the top is only half the point. The Bill know that he CAN, and therefore they can’t stack the box as they did with Chad.

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