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		<title>By: ridinmywave</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/week-9-ups-and-downs/comment-page-1/#comment-108312</link>
		<dc:creator>ridinmywave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete, you must farves lawyer or something, yes it was a terrible pick for more reasons than one, he knew the scenario we where in, we shouldnt even have been throwing on 1st down in the first place with score, farve had a WIDE OPEN chansi stuckey in the middle but has a terrible habbit of checking under and then checking over(looking shallow then looking deep) any football analyst can tell you its the other way around....just run the damn play!..and definately dont do that when your under pressure, when you know tyour about to get hit why in the hell would you take it upon yourself to throw across your body to the other side of the field with the thought that it would be accurate. jc couldnt have done ANYTHING about that, he was WELL covered, a qb&#039;s job is to recognize the field, not 15 blind faith passes a game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete, you must farves lawyer or something, yes it was a terrible pick for more reasons than one, he knew the scenario we where in, we shouldnt even have been throwing on 1st down in the first place with score, farve had a WIDE OPEN chansi stuckey in the middle but has a terrible habbit of checking under and then checking over(looking shallow then looking deep) any football analyst can tell you its the other way around&#8230;.just run the damn play!..and definately dont do that when your under pressure, when you know tyour about to get hit why in the hell would you take it upon yourself to throw across your body to the other side of the field with the thought that it would be accurate. jc couldnt have done ANYTHING about that, he was WELL covered, a qb&#8217;s job is to recognize the field, not 15 blind faith passes a game.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose the Jet</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/week-9-ups-and-downs/comment-page-1/#comment-108256</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose the Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CANT WAIT TO SEE THE JETS PLAY VS THE PATS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.  ITS GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING GAME!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CANT WAIT TO SEE THE JETS PLAY VS THE PATS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.  ITS GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING GAME!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/week-9-ups-and-downs/comment-page-1/#comment-108245</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, Favre gets credit for 26 points! Wanna know why? Cause he plays for the Jets and they had 26 points. They won the game and played solid and won the game. We could have been like NE and lost 18-15. But we won so who cares who gets the points. Except for fantasy football purposes. Why are being critical of every single decision? Players make errors. A player like Favre leads his team down the field and gets points for his team after his miscue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, Favre gets credit for 26 points! Wanna know why? Cause he plays for the Jets and they had 26 points. They won the game and played solid and won the game. We could have been like NE and lost 18-15. But we won so who cares who gets the points. Except for fantasy football purposes. Why are being critical of every single decision? Players make errors. A player like Favre leads his team down the field and gets points for his team after his miscue</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon "You're With Me"riweather</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/11/03/week-9-ups-and-downs/comment-page-1/#comment-108242</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon "You're With Me"riweather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sack,

Is this what you&#039;ve come to?  name calling?  If I was a pats blog regular, would I be posting with the same name in both places?  Do you comment on CNN.com as &quot;Sackdance&quot;?  don&#039;t be a d-bag.

-&quot;how can you legitimately say that Favre is not a great QB?&quot;
- WAS a great qb.  WAS.  His physical abilities have deteriorated to the point where they no longer compensate for his poor decision making-

Until they begin keeping track statistically of how many stupid throws a QB makes that go into double or triple coverage, or how often he holds the ball too long, I&#039;ll point to the INT&#039;s  - and to your own damn eyes - as evidence of his poor play.

If you don&#039;t think he makes bad decisions with the ball, then you don&#039;t watch the games.  Perhaps you follow the jets only through the box scores?


--- And don&#039;t give me his completion percentage as evidence of his great decisions.  He throws a TON of short passes.  He ranks 19th in YPA, and 15th, by the way, in QB rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sack,</p>
<p>Is this what you&#8217;ve come to?  name calling?  If I was a pats blog regular, would I be posting with the same name in both places?  Do you comment on CNN.com as &#8220;Sackdance&#8221;?  don&#8217;t be a d-bag.</p>
<p>-&#8221;how can you legitimately say that Favre is not a great QB?&#8221;<br />
- WAS a great qb.  WAS.  His physical abilities have deteriorated to the point where they no longer compensate for his poor decision making-</p>
<p>Until they begin keeping track statistically of how many stupid throws a QB makes that go into double or triple coverage, or how often he holds the ball too long, I&#8217;ll point to the INT&#8217;s  &#8211; and to your own damn eyes &#8211; as evidence of his poor play.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think he makes bad decisions with the ball, then you don&#8217;t watch the games.  Perhaps you follow the jets only through the box scores?</p>
<p>&#8212; And don&#8217;t give me his completion percentage as evidence of his great decisions.  He throws a TON of short passes.  He ranks 19th in YPA, and 15th, by the way, in QB rating.</p>
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		<title>By: SackDance99</title>
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		<dc:creator>SackDance99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, besides being a Pats fan (I&#039;ve been on the Pats blog and you&#039;re there), which decreases your credibility on a Jets fan site, your alleged proof of &quot;horrible&quot; decisions are solely the INTS.  Favre also boasts a completion % of 68.4...so, there&#039;s lots of smart decisions there.  Also, he&#039;s only suffered 1 losing season, more good decisions.  He throws INTs, and some dumb ones, but as Peyton Manning says, every INT has a story and many of Favre&#039;s INTs are made because he believes in his WRs to make plays.  And, I only excused Favre&#039;s high INT total for 2005, which was his ONLY losing season with the Packers.  How can you legitimately say that Favre is not a great QB?  How do you discount his great 2007 season?  I&#039;m not making excuses, I&#039;m pointing out something you just don&#039;t see.  Yes, I know your favorite QB, Tom Brady, is better, but Favre is pretty good and at 5-3 the Jets have a good shot to unseat your Pats for the AFC East crown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, besides being a Pats fan (I&#8217;ve been on the Pats blog and you&#8217;re there), which decreases your credibility on a Jets fan site, your alleged proof of &#8220;horrible&#8221; decisions are solely the INTS.  Favre also boasts a completion % of 68.4&#8230;so, there&#8217;s lots of smart decisions there.  Also, he&#8217;s only suffered 1 losing season, more good decisions.  He throws INTs, and some dumb ones, but as Peyton Manning says, every INT has a story and many of Favre&#8217;s INTs are made because he believes in his WRs to make plays.  And, I only excused Favre&#8217;s high INT total for 2005, which was his ONLY losing season with the Packers.  How can you legitimately say that Favre is not a great QB?  How do you discount his great 2007 season?  I&#8217;m not making excuses, I&#8217;m pointing out something you just don&#8217;t see.  Yes, I know your favorite QB, Tom Brady, is better, but Favre is pretty good and at 5-3 the Jets have a good shot to unseat your Pats for the AFC East crown.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete57</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That pick against the Bills was not a &quot;horrible&quot; one. He had J-CO in single coverage and he had a step on his man. Favre was hit as he threw the ball which took something off of it. It happens. J-Co could&#039;ve done a better job defending. Favre has thrown some bad balls this year, but that one wasn&#039;t in that category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pick against the Bills was not a &#8220;horrible&#8221; one. He had J-CO in single coverage and he had a step on his man. Favre was hit as he threw the ball which took something off of it. It happens. J-Co could&#8217;ve done a better job defending. Favre has thrown some bad balls this year, but that one wasn&#8217;t in that category.</p>
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		<title>By: subwayfare</title>
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		<dc:creator>subwayfare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me say that I think Favre makes some outrageous decisions! Sometimes he throws up balls that are just ridiculous! It&#039;s hard to believe any pro QB in his right mind would even consider such a throw! 

But the thing is, I have had these exact same thoughts about both interceptions and TDs thrown by Favre. It&#039;s no surprise to me that the guy is such a polarizing figure. People have very different levels of risk/reward tolerance and varying reactions to mistakes. 

I&#039;ve been in a pool for fifteen years and have had to pick every Packer game against the spread over that period. I would always think, &quot;Well, Favre will likely throw at least one interception for a TD so there&#039;s 7 right there, but will he throw 2 no one expected him to make to cover it?&quot; In his prime the answer was often yes. 21st century Favre made the pick a little tougher. 

There&#039;s no doubt the Jets could use the slightly more controlled 2007 version but I worry about those that want to totally handcuff him. I just think there will come a time in the next 8, and hopefully 9, 10, 11..., games when the Jets will need the cannon to fire and you won&#039;t want it mothballed. 

It&#039;s a big coaching challenge. Mangini&#039;s got his work cut out for him. I&#039;m hopeful he will rise to the occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me say that I think Favre makes some outrageous decisions! Sometimes he throws up balls that are just ridiculous! It&#8217;s hard to believe any pro QB in his right mind would even consider such a throw! </p>
<p>But the thing is, I have had these exact same thoughts about both interceptions and TDs thrown by Favre. It&#8217;s no surprise to me that the guy is such a polarizing figure. People have very different levels of risk/reward tolerance and varying reactions to mistakes. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in a pool for fifteen years and have had to pick every Packer game against the spread over that period. I would always think, &#8220;Well, Favre will likely throw at least one interception for a TD so there&#8217;s 7 right there, but will he throw 2 no one expected him to make to cover it?&#8221; In his prime the answer was often yes. 21st century Favre made the pick a little tougher. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt the Jets could use the slightly more controlled 2007 version but I worry about those that want to totally handcuff him. I just think there will come a time in the next 8, and hopefully 9, 10, 11&#8230;, games when the Jets will need the cannon to fire and you won&#8217;t want it mothballed. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a big coaching challenge. Mangini&#8217;s got his work cut out for him. I&#8217;m hopeful he will rise to the occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon "You're With Me"riweather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon "You're With Me"riweather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sack -

&quot;Brandon, I don’t know who you think is a good QB, but I guarantee that whoever it is, he has thrown a pick 6.&quot;

you either misread or didn&#039;t read my post, so allow me to copy/paste..

Yes, even good qb’s having good seasons throw pick 6’s. how many times a year do they do it though? seriously - i don’t know where to find that info, but i’m sure it’s nowhere near what we’ve seen out of favre so far this year.

It&#039;s been clear since the day the favre trade was talked about that you were a favre apologist, excusing his high INT totals because of a bad offensive line in GB.  During those same conversations, I pointed out that the high INT total was due to bad decision making, and you wanted no part of it.  Well, the proof is staring you in the face now.  The guy makes HORRIBLE decisions with the ball - and all you can do is make excuses.

As for favre&#039;s importance for the scoring output....
The Defense put 10 points on the board themselves, the opening drive was COMPLETELY due to Leon, and as the last drive was the rb&#039;s.

Favre gets credit for putting 10 points on the board (for the jets, 17 overall)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sack -</p>
<p>&#8220;Brandon, I don’t know who you think is a good QB, but I guarantee that whoever it is, he has thrown a pick 6.&#8221;</p>
<p>you either misread or didn&#8217;t read my post, so allow me to copy/paste..</p>
<p>Yes, even good qb’s having good seasons throw pick 6’s. how many times a year do they do it though? seriously &#8211; i don’t know where to find that info, but i’m sure it’s nowhere near what we’ve seen out of favre so far this year.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been clear since the day the favre trade was talked about that you were a favre apologist, excusing his high INT totals because of a bad offensive line in GB.  During those same conversations, I pointed out that the high INT total was due to bad decision making, and you wanted no part of it.  Well, the proof is staring you in the face now.  The guy makes HORRIBLE decisions with the ball &#8211; and all you can do is make excuses.</p>
<p>As for favre&#8217;s importance for the scoring output&#8230;.<br />
The Defense put 10 points on the board themselves, the opening drive was COMPLETELY due to Leon, and as the last drive was the rb&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Favre gets credit for putting 10 points on the board (for the jets, 17 overall)</p>
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		<title>By: See, there you guys go again!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>See, there you guys go again!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Fonzie:

THERES NO WAY ELI CAN SMASH FARVES RECORDS....... At the rate he is going he would have to play &#039;till he is 90 yrs old to get 300 (and counting) INT&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Fonzie:</p>
<p>THERES NO WAY ELI CAN SMASH FARVES RECORDS&#8230;&#8230;. At the rate he is going he would have to play &#8217;till he is 90 yrs old to get 300 (and counting) INT&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: ridinmywave</title>
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		<dc:creator>ridinmywave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sackdance,

i can actually recall a couple times when the guy has held the ball too long, ecspecially yesterday when he didnt see coles streaking across the back of the end zone, which is why you saw coles go ballistic when he threw it away, im not a favre hater by any means, i actually like the guy&#039;s savvy, and he gives this team &quot;character&quot;....but truth is truth, he&#039;s had numerous m,iscues this year, probably some that cost us a game, but we should have expected this, its a new system, they will click, iron out the wrinkles and look forward to &quot;statement&quot; second half. jenkins and revis for mvp! go jets!...ya dig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sackdance,</p>
<p>i can actually recall a couple times when the guy has held the ball too long, ecspecially yesterday when he didnt see coles streaking across the back of the end zone, which is why you saw coles go ballistic when he threw it away, im not a favre hater by any means, i actually like the guy&#8217;s savvy, and he gives this team &#8220;character&#8221;&#8230;.but truth is truth, he&#8217;s had numerous m,iscues this year, probably some that cost us a game, but we should have expected this, its a new system, they will click, iron out the wrinkles and look forward to &#8220;statement&#8221; second half. jenkins and revis for mvp! go jets!&#8230;ya dig</p>
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