Comments on: TJB Scout: St. Louis Rams

By: dfb5447

dfb5447 — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:24:08 +0000

we must keep our eyes open, because if you dont realize we’ve had two of these types of games this season.( Well, three if you count the dreadful bengals, but thats beside the point). What happened in those games? We barely pulled a win against taylor thigpen, then lost to the sorriest program in the league since 2003(Raiders for the feeble of memory). So why isnt this considered a vital game? We win and were tied for the lead in the division no matter the outcome of pats-bills game. if we lose i predict the bad momentum will lead to a loss verse the pats on thursday with little time to recover, then drop the titans game for obvious reasons. Suddenly were 5-6 and out of the possibility of an AFC east win because of this year’s level of competition. This is a swing game if nothing else, and a must win

By: Joe B.

Joe B. — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:01:15 +0000

No one was saying that Favre didn’t do his part. My point was that what Najy said (TJ’s high average per carry is due to the threat of Favre stretching the field) is nonsense. Using that drive as an example, where there was NO THREAT of Favre going deep.

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:21:13 +0000

The ground game was great against the Bills and in that last drive, TJ was great as was Faneca, who pulled on a trap for the big gainer and made two sets of pancake blocks. But, here’s where Favre gets credit. On a day when the Jets were not good on 3rd down (before that drive, the Jets had only converted 2 of 7 3rd downs), of the 3 3rd down conversions on that drive (out of 4), Favre completed 2 short passes to keep the drive going. Nobody liked that earlier pick 6, but Favre was instrumental to the success of that last drive and he’s been great late in games this season.

By: subwayfare

subwayfare — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:43:24 +0000

Joe B-

I agree that the last drive in Buffalo was just a will-imposing grind and it wouldn’t have mattered who was behind center. I was psyched to see that.

I also don’t think we’d win consistently if we tried nothing else. Teams would look at film, study the blocking schemes and safeties and CBs would hurtle themselves into the holes at the snap.

I think in the modern NFL you have to attack defenses aggressively in multiple ways because they’re much quicker studies than they used to be. Look at the Giants and Pittsburgh, two teams known for winning with D and running games, but they both employ QBs who can and do stretch defenses.

I don’t really care who the QB is but I do want it to be somebody who can and will test the back end of defenses a few times a game to keep them off the LOS. And that would be a lot easier if we had at least one burner at WR. Maybe that will wind up being Clowney?

By: Pete57

Pete57 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:18:45 +0000

Joe, for what it’s worth, I was one of the happiest Jet fans when we got Favre, and still am. But I will also admit that he has not played as well as i expected him to, not yet anyway. As stated by others, including yourself, winning is all that really matters. I don’t care who gets the credit. Let’s beat the Rams and get ready for a big playoff run!

By: hank/naples

hank/naples — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:17:41 +0000

Joe B;

My feelings exactly. Same as ” we’re 5-3 because of Farve”.

By: Joe B.

Joe B. — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:58:08 +0000

I’m not crying, but I’m constantly laughing at all of the undue credit Favre gets.

Specifically the comment “TJ’s average is high because of the threat of Favre stretching the field.”

Really? TJ’s best runs came on the game-clinching drive, when there WAS ABSOLUTELY NO THREAT of Favre throwing deep. The Bills knew, especially after the interception, that we were going to run the ball, and we still did it, thanks to the O-Line and thanks to TJ.

All I care about is winning, and if Favre helps us do that, then I’m as happy as a clam. But it gets irritating when people refuse to give credit to anyone but Favre for success the team has, then look to blame anyone but Favre for the failures. It’s baffling.

By: Andrew Weiss

Andrew Weiss — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:39:16 +0000

Are-tee

Take it down a notch, Artie. We’re all doing this for the love of the game.

Najy

I think the point about Favre alone keeping defenses honest solely on reputation is sound and I believe his presence does help the running game. But, this past game is the first where the offense actually executed in the face of a talented, disciplined defense. Faneca finally played like a Pro Bowler and Chris Baker was back which helped the blocking. Mangold’s blocking was particularly strong and, according to Football Outsider, the Jets now have one of the best running offenses in the game (when we run right). We also gave up no sacks and this is especially important with Favre’s tendency to hold the ball. The game plan was also sound with a greater commitment to the run and a far more consistently aggressive defense than in past weeks.

As I have said before, it was never about Favre or INTs. We need to execute to win.

By: Najy

Najy — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:34:44 +0000

Joe B.,

I sense some sarcasim…. Perhaps you see the glass half empty… I look at (15TDS) the glass half full..

All that matters is we are winning… No need to cry young Joe.

By: Pete57

Pete57 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:19:03 +0000

Joe, I do not believe that Favre is the “sole” reason for our offensive success, but because of his ability to strike downfield, and any area downfield, it absolutely helps open up the running lanes. Do you disagree?