Comments on: Daily Links: Weekend Rest

By: Eddie DiGio

Eddie DiGio — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:00:04 +0000

It’s funny how everyone thinks that Favre has to throw it 50 times to be “Favre”. The Haters all say he has to be “controlled by Mangini” or he’s only a “game manager” now. They act like he’s Trent Dilfer or Mark Rypien. The whole stop the gunslinger thing is misleading. I agree he has to play within the offense more, but he can’t and hasn’t been handcuffed. Mangini and Schott arent stupid. They know if they can help keep him in high percentage downs, the good far outweighs the bad. Hey, Babe Ruth struck out more the anybody for awhile, but he turned out to be pretty good.
I’ve made this point before, he’s doing the same thing Elway did in the late 90’s in Denver when they had the great run game. Michael Jordan became a jump shooter later in his career when he couldnt get up and just embarass people. Truly great players adapt to whatever style they have to in order to be successful. Eli Manning looked as bad as a Quarterback could look in the Minnesota and Buffalo games last year and it took one game vs New England to change his career and season.
Regardless of what people think about Mike Francesa’s opinion, the guy knows his stuff. He said that ” we are witnessing the renasaince of Favre”. I really cant see how anyone could argue with that after what has gone on these past few weeks. I guess there will always be haters, even if that type of attitude is remeniscent of the ignorant and losing mentality that has plagued the Jets for years. Fortunately for us, we have a HOF proven winner to fight the bad karma

By: Jose the Jet

Jose the Jet — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:42:11 +0000

I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT WHEN BRETT MANAGES THE GAME LIKE CHAD I ACTUALLY SMILE BECAUSE I KNOW HE CAN MAKE CERTAIN PASSES THAT CHAD WON’T MAKE. LIKE THE PASS TO COTCHERY FOR A TD. HE GOT THE BALL AND TURNED STRAIGHT TO COTCHERY’S SIDE. AND THREW A BULLET. THEN THE PASS TO KEELR 3 AND 15. I DONT MIND HIM BEING CHAD FOR THRE QUARTERS AND THEN DOING HIS THING FOR THE LAST QUARTER. WHAT AN UPGRADE? FROM A B+ QB TO AN A QB. BRING ON THE TITANS!!! AS A JETS FAN WE WILL REMEMBER THIS GAME…

By: Eddie DiGio

Eddie DiGio — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:59:05 +0000

I’ve heard that if we make the playoffs, Favre is on board for the rest of his contract. He just had a huge house built from the ground up in Northwest Jersey close between the Jets facilities and NJ/Penn borderline. The Jets have made outstanding efforts to accomidate his family. He loves his teammates and his teammates love him. I dont know what kind of news you get in Florida but Mike T was on Mike’d Up in NEW YORK and the impression we got was if the team keeps on making progress like they have, Brett is gonna be here until at LEAST next year.
I know you hope against hope and want him gone, but at least leave a credible source of where you got your info, because I havent heard anything like that from anyone in New York or credible national source…

By: hank/naples

hank/naples — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:05:41 +0000

jet4lif:

There’s no doubt that the game “runs” differently with Farve in there. And I give him and keller all the credit in the world for thurs. win. I even felt a sense of confort with the ball in his hands in OT. But there is no way I would’ve felt the same before Buffalo. But you you are right we should enjoy every minute right now, but I’m not sure if he’ll be back. I’ve read he won’t be back but it’ll be something to see Raymond James Stadium full of green, white, red and blue jerseys.

By: jet4lif

jet4lif — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:13:41 +0000

Hank,
I like that kind of game. The only diff being that with favre longarm the safeties and CBs will keep it honest. With Chad we always got burnt since his throws loose zip beyond 15 yds. Last yr, so many winning/tying drives stalled due to CB’s jumping the routes. No wonder TJ is running like crazy with all that room.
I guess we shd enjoy these couple of yrs while Favre can throw strong.

By: hank/naples

hank/naples — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:53:12 +0000

jetalif

I’m sure that it is a combo of # I and # 2 that contribute largely to #3 in your above observation. The facts are about 73 pass att. with 1 Int. three games after Buffalo and 105 pass atts. with seven Int’s in the three games before Buffalo. I look for the same Pennington type game to continue against the Titans and the rest of the season.

By: jet4lif

jet4lif — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:46:06 +0000

Im not sure if its Mangini controlling Favre or Schott controlling Favre or Favre being easy with the rest of the team. One thing is clear. After that game in buffalo where favre’s INT returned for TD, things have been very middle ground. Favre taking chances only when needed(esp with Keller). But he trusts the run game more than before. I’d like to see it remain this way for res tof the season. As the season progresses, run D and run O will prevail and we are pretty good at it.

By: jim

jim — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:03:30 +0000

charlie weiss is an obnoxious bore and a big fat jerkoff…but i’d take him as our offensive coordinator next year

By: Eddie DiGio

Eddie DiGio — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 03:56:21 +0000

It whole “Mangini controlling Favre” and “we can’t let Favre do this and that” stuff truly bothers me. Listen it took some time for Brett to get comfortable in the off. and for him to realize he’s not 25 and he doesn’t have to win the game by himself. The last thing Mangini wanted to do was put the shackles on Favre. He asked Favre to do what good smart coaches do when a player is trying to win the game by himself, “dont try and do too much, when it’s not there, take the sack of throw it away”. In turn he has helped put Brett in less risk by a balanced approach (33 passes 35 runs Thurs night) and calling out the o-line and cordinator ( he did say a few weeks ago”we need to protect better and do things as coaches to help Brett suceed”). It’s not all Mangini and it’s not all Favre, that’s where the “middled ground” comes in.
Mangini has done an outstanding job of getting through to a 39 year old HOF QB who could of just as easily said “I’ll do it however I please”. He treated him like a man and it seems Brett truly respects and likes him. Bad guy right, a resume unparelled in the NFL with a HOF career, and he changes his game for the good of the team. Bad person? prima donna? some of you make me sick. Mangini knew what he had, and thats why everytime we needed a big first time, he put the ball in Brett’s hands. If you couldnt see that you are hopeless, in denial or just plain stupid
Our offense isn’t goin to go back to what it was. We have the coaches and off players on the same page. Everyone knows there role. Mangini knows that if he gives Favre a balanced run game, keeps them out of bad situations, 2nd and 3rd and long, he has a guy to take the team where he wants it to go. The two guys hugging on the field at Gillete after the game, deserve the credit for where the team is right now…

By: hank/naples

hank/naples — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:26:32 +0000

subwayfare:

I agree with you in part , however it is absolutely critical that we continue what we started in Buffalo. Before that game I commented that more important than the win would be for the Jets to execute a signature gameplan that would play to the teams strength and build chemistry. I felt Mangini and the Jets did just that and came out a different team. The next day, Nov. 3rd, I posted this: ” Brandon: Tell it like it is. You are 100% right and the proof is in the gameplan. We will see the same ball control, run first pass second basic mistake free (I hope) football till the playoffs. Gone is the dysfunctional offense with the gunslinger mentality. Mangini will do everything he can to not “let Farve be Farve” and control him. No doubt farve can make all the throws but those to the enemy can sap a teams positive energy.”

I don’t want Brett to become Chad. I want Farve to stay exactly like he has been since Buffalo, because this is the only way we can continue build on our strengths, our chemistry and our success.