Comments on: Patience With Vernon Gholston http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gholstonbust http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-114121 gholstonbust Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:21:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-114121 Steal of the draft = Trevor Scott 6th RD DE out of Buffalo for the Oakland Raiders Has played limited time and leads all rookies with 5 sacks on the year Gholston is getting paid 10 times more but no production Why is it that a 6th rd pick making the league minimum can produce but Gholston can't? Steal of the draft = Trevor Scott 6th RD DE out of Buffalo for the Oakland Raiders

Has played limited time and leads all rookies with 5 sacks on the year

Gholston is getting paid 10 times more but no production
Why is it that a 6th rd pick making the league minimum can produce but Gholston can’t?

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112280 Bent Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112280 The Boz was AWESOME when he first came into the league. People forget this...he was all-rookie! He is only regarded as a bust because he never lasted in the NFL due to a combination of injuries and off-field stuff. I wish Gholston was performing like a Boz clone. His 2 nephews play for UCLA, one a DE, one a LB. Interesting prospects. They aren't quite as colorful as he was! The Boz was AWESOME when he first came into the league. People forget this…he was all-rookie!

He is only regarded as a bust because he never lasted in the NFL due to a combination of injuries and off-field stuff.

I wish Gholston was performing like a Boz clone.

His 2 nephews play for UCLA, one a DE, one a LB. Interesting prospects. They aren’t quite as colorful as he was!

]]> By: Rick http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112260 Rick Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:24:54 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112260 Gholston is a bust. He's a Brian Bosworth clone. All muscle no skills. I would have rather drafted Jerod Mayo or Leodis Mckelvin at that pick at least they would contribute right away. Gholston is a bust. He’s a Brian Bosworth clone. All muscle no skills. I would have rather drafted Jerod Mayo or Leodis Mckelvin at that pick at least they would contribute right away.

]]> By: JustAGreenGuy http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112194 JustAGreenGuy Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:36:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112194 Dewayne Robertson was a bust. If Gholston carries the cooler or helps with strength and conditioning he is worth more to the team than a guy we trade just to clear up cash. Dewayne Robertson was a bust. If Gholston carries the cooler or helps with strength and conditioning he is worth more to the team than a guy we trade just to clear up cash.

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]]> By: RK http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112184 RK Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:44:44 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112184 Is it the same people calling Gholston a bust that call D'Brick a bust? Maybe some people just like the word bust. Perhaps they need an explanation of what that means? A bust is someone who, given time, proves to be worthless. Given time is the key there. With less than one year, and coming out of school as a junior, there is no way anyone can call this kid a bust. Is he tearing up the NFL? No he is not. Would Mangini start him if he thought he would contribute? Probably. Maybe he will make some big plays down the stretch for a playoff run or maybe he will make some impact plays in the playoffs. Looking at it positively I'd say maybe he'll be a secret weapon that has yet to be unleashed. Maybe the coaching staff knows exactly what they are doing trying to get him chomping at the proverbial bit so that he will explode suddenly with production. Or, if after a couple of years he is just a regular starter and contributes just enough to help the Jets win consistently I still wouldn't call him a bust. Getting a starter is what you hope for. The 6th pick is not easily traded and they took roll of the dice on a guy that may have potential greatness. It's hard to fault management. Gholston is not a bust...yet. Is it the same people calling Gholston a bust that call D’Brick a bust?

Maybe some people just like the word bust. Perhaps they need an explanation of what that means?

A bust is someone who, given time, proves to be worthless. Given time is the key there. With less than one year, and coming out of school as a junior, there is no way anyone can call this kid a bust.

Is he tearing up the NFL? No he is not. Would Mangini start him if he thought he would contribute? Probably.

Maybe he will make some big plays down the stretch for a playoff run or maybe he will make some impact plays in the playoffs.

Looking at it positively I’d say maybe he’ll be a secret weapon that has yet to be unleashed. Maybe the coaching staff knows exactly what they are doing trying to get him chomping at the proverbial bit so that he will explode suddenly with production.

Or, if after a couple of years he is just a regular starter and contributes just enough to help the Jets win consistently I still wouldn’t call him a bust. Getting a starter is what you hope for. The 6th pick is not easily traded and they took roll of the dice on a guy that may have potential greatness. It’s hard to fault management.

Gholston is not a bust…yet.

]]> By: Paul Mace http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112141 Paul Mace Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:37:34 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112141 Problem is that Gholston was not the BPA at #6. Anyone that watched him play in college who was not blinded by his bulging biceps would have noticed that against the best competition (LSU for instance) he was horrible and played slow. Getting one sack on Jake Long in college made this guy $20m and he will be out of the league in 3 years. It is a joke to hear Tannebaum's name as executive of the year given this incredible miss. This kind of miss sets a franchise back and they will be paying for it over the next few years. He should stick to 4th round picks and TEs. The fact that the Pats traded down one slot later and drafted a linebacker (Mayo) who is tearing it up in the 3-4 only adds further salt to the wound. Problem is that Gholston was not the BPA at #6. Anyone that watched him play in college who was not blinded by his bulging biceps would have noticed that against the best competition (LSU for instance) he was horrible and played slow. Getting one sack on Jake Long in college made this guy $20m and he will be out of the league in 3 years. It is a joke to hear Tannebaum’s name as executive of the year given this incredible miss. This kind of miss sets a franchise back and they will be paying for it over the next few years. He should stick to 4th round picks and TEs. The fact that the Pats traded down one slot later and drafted a linebacker (Mayo) who is tearing it up in the 3-4 only adds further salt to the wound.

]]> By: BigKatFan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112127 BigKatFan Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:51:50 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112127 If Gholston does not get a sack by the game at Seattle, then you can definitely call him a bust. At least Lowery did some good. If Gholston does not get a sack by the game at Seattle, then you can definitely call him a bust.
At least Lowery did some good.

]]> By: junior http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112116 junior Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:39:53 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112116 you cant make a comparison from ghostman to woodley. Woodley was a middle second round pick. Ghostman was a top 10 pick you have to look at first rounders that play the position listen i understand you want to make a comparison and other than merrimen i would have to say what about Demarcus Ware who started 16 games had 58 tackles 47 solo and 8 sacks while learning a new position i know Ghostman doesnt start but he hasnt even showed a glim of hope you cant make a comparison from ghostman to woodley. Woodley was a middle second round pick. Ghostman was a top 10 pick you have to look at first rounders that play the position listen i understand you want to make a comparison and other than merrimen i would have to say what about Demarcus Ware who started 16 games had 58 tackles 47 solo and 8 sacks while learning a new position i know Ghostman doesnt start but he hasnt even showed a glim of hope

]]> By: Green dream http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112082 Green dream Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:53:21 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/02/patience-with-vernon-gholston/#comment-112082 The main problem I see is the lack of potential explosiveness. He just seem slow. 4.6 is pretty quick but it's timed and not football speed. He has not exhibited pass rush moves, he bull rushes each time. he seems to constantly get pinned inside on outside plays. he just doesn't look good at the moment. I expected to see him flying around out there. Woodley on the steelers is having a great 2nd year and was invisible last year so we should be so lucky to have Gholston replicate Woodley's maturation. lastly, BT is the real BUST. he is OK, Solid at best. Everytime I look at him I just think to myself that we took him over ED REED. WTF The main problem I see is the lack of potential explosiveness. He just seem slow. 4.6 is pretty quick but it’s timed and not football speed. He has not exhibited pass rush moves, he bull rushes each time. he seems to constantly get pinned inside on outside plays. he just doesn’t look good at the moment. I expected to see him flying around out there.

Woodley on the steelers is having a great 2nd year and was invisible last year so we should be so lucky to have Gholston replicate Woodley’s maturation.

lastly, BT is the real BUST. he is OK, Solid at best. Everytime I look at him I just think to myself that we took him over ED REED. WTF

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