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Daily Links: Less Three Man Rush Than You Think?

by Bassett on December 10th, 2008 at 8:59 am

7 Responses to Daily Links: Less Three Man Rush Than You Think?

  1. avatar subwayfare says:

    The problem isn’t that the Jets rush 3, it’s that they get zero pressure with 4 and 5 man rushes.

  2. avatar Mel31602 says:

    I totally agree on the Mangini showing more fire issue. He’s not firey by nature so if he shows emotion now it will just seem forced and desperate rather than natural.

  3. avatar Bent says:

    Cimini’s numbers speak to my earlier point, if when they do blitz it is ineffective, why are we calling for them to rush the passer more? No, what we need is more creativity, disguise and variation. Quality, not quantity. Is the lack of pressure actually down to the personnel and the disguise that was masking a weakness earlier in the year has now been revealed to the rest of the league, perhaps?

    It’s not surprising that there weren’t that many three man rushes, but when there are, they stand out because it seems like the QB has all day and this causes frustration which means it becomes a big issue until everyone starts to say they are rushing three on every play.

    Similar to how Chad gets killed for having a weak arm even though he only underthrows the occasional ball and the others mostly are adequately thrown, but the instant he did throw one, everyone went crazy like “SEE? Yet ANOTHER weak throw!”

  4. avatar subwayfare says:

    “Quality, not quantity.”

    Agreed. I watched the first 49er series again last night and there was one David Harris blitz on a five man rush that seemed designed to seek out the blocker. Straight up the middle from way off the LOS, exactly where the back was waiting to tie him up long enough for the QB to find the hole in the coverage. Calvin Pace recovered a Jenkins strip of the RB on the drive or they would have scored on that one, too.

    The Jets LBs don’t seem fast enough to send them on most delays and disguises. I would dispense with the trickery early on, send no fewer than six rushers, right from the LOS, in the gaps, and make sure all six go with bat out of hell purpose. I’d do that on the first series on every third down. Hopefully there wouldn’t be more than one. Having knocked the QB around right out of the gate, the blitz fakes and disguises would have more impact throughout the game.

    I just think once the rush gets picked up the first few times, the QB doesn’t feel threatened and gets into a groove picking apart the suspect secondary.

    I’m not a big, “fire the coach” type but improvement is imperative.

  5. avatar Harvlis says:

    We should never rush just three. We should hardly ever rush just four. We chose to play a 3-4, in order to vary the attack and change up where the pressure comes from. For the past two games, we have rushed three or four, more than half the time. That is sickening. The coaches feel that, since our secondary has been lit up all year, we should not bring any pressure. They feel that we should increase the number that we drop back into coverage. This is a massive mistake. The more pressure that we put on the QB, the better the coverage will be, as the QB will not have time to set his feet. He will be running for his life and it will be in the back of his mind, on each play. We would see many more rushed passes, interceptions, third down mistakes, etc… RUSH THE G-D DAMN QB. Our coaching staff makes mediocre QB’s look like Joe Montana. If Sutton and Mangini don’t understand this — they need to go.

  6. avatar ja says:

    i miss john abraham

  7. avatar Joe B. says:

    subwayfare -

    I’ve seen a TON of Jet blitzes this season like the one you described. Where it seems like the objective is to run right into a free blocker. I’ll never understand it and it drives me nuts during games.