Comments on: Mangini Out? http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:30:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Max http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-118104 Max Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:38:59 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-118104 I have been saying this for the last 4 weeks after the Denver loss Mangini never was able to game plan according to the Jet's talent. He always game plan to his scheme which,by the way, Brett never agree on. I mean, you draft the 6th player in the first round to teach him a new position? Come on, please! I have always supported the Brett Farve trade. Having said that, he has shown his age or he is more seriously hurt that predicted. Come on, Woody is a business man first, If Mangini stays then he can't sell new seats to Jet fans in the new stadium. It's as simple as that. Bring in a Bill Cowher and then you are really selling those seats. For Mangini it was pure and simple go to the playoffs or get fired! Which make me think that he may have lost many players in the locker room including his quarterback. He knew from the pre-season that if he did not made the playoffs Woody would (vote of confidence or not) give him the ax. The million dollar question will be who will be the Jet's coach next year. I am betting that starts with a P. By and by, the Green Bay fans think if Brett would have stayed they would be like 12-4 and the Jet fans think that if Chad would have stayed the Jet's would be like 13-3. Funny thing, isn't it? I have been saying this for the last 4 weeks after the Denver loss Mangini never was able to game plan according to the Jet’s talent. He always game plan to his scheme which,by the way, Brett never agree on. I mean, you draft the 6th player in the first round to teach him a new position? Come on, please!
I have always supported the Brett Farve trade. Having said that, he has shown his age or he is more seriously hurt that predicted. Come on, Woody is a business man first, If Mangini stays then he can’t sell new seats to Jet fans in the new stadium. It’s as simple as that.
Bring in a Bill Cowher and then you are really selling those seats. For Mangini it was pure and simple go to the playoffs or get fired! Which make me think that he may have lost many players in the locker room including his quarterback. He knew from the pre-season that if he did not made the playoffs Woody would (vote of confidence or not) give him the ax. The million dollar question will be who will be the Jet’s coach next year. I am betting that starts with a P. By and by, the Green Bay fans think if Brett would have stayed they would be like 12-4 and the Jet fans think that if Chad would have stayed the Jet’s would be like 13-3. Funny thing, isn’t it?

]]> By: Joe S. http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117827 Joe S. Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:34:18 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117827 Favre has cost Mangini his job! Chan Pennington would have won 12 games with this Jets Team and with this coach. This Favre move was the owners move to sell seat licensing frees... nothing more. I hope Favre retires because this owner Johnson is NUTS wanting Favre back! Joe Favre has cost Mangini his job! Chan Pennington would have won 12 games with this Jets Team and with this coach.

This Favre move was the owners move to sell seat licensing frees… nothing more.

I hope Favre retires because this owner Johnson is NUTS wanting Favre back!

Joe

]]> By: Ethan Gooderum http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117725 Ethan Gooderum Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:58:57 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117725 I am thrilled with this. I am so tired of Mangini's negative body language... he seems to never talk to the players on the sideline, its as though he is in his own little world out there. I am hoping for Spagnuolo. Everyone who plays for him loves him, and he is a spark of energy on the sideline. I am thrilled with this. I am so tired of Mangini’s negative body language… he seems to never talk to the players on the sideline, its as though he is in his own little world out there.

I am hoping for Spagnuolo. Everyone who plays for him loves him, and he is a spark of energy on the sideline.

]]> By: gang green http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117477 gang green Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:26:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117477 You know i have to laugh at all the slandering of billichek although his cocky demeanor and win at all cost(spy gate) atleast the man has the skills to field a team that has been competitive for the last decade...shoot mangini himself tried to shadow himself in his footsteps but came up short with the lack of knowledge,coaching ability,and ability to prepare his team each week...have u ever and i mean ever looked at a Patriot team take the field an not look and play prepared...I think not and the laugher about this whole issue is that I hate Bllichek with a passion You know i have to laugh at all the slandering of billichek although his cocky demeanor and win at all cost(spy gate) atleast the man has the skills to field a team that has been competitive for the last decade…shoot mangini himself tried to shadow himself in his footsteps but came up short with the lack of knowledge,coaching ability,and ability to prepare his team each week…have u ever and i mean ever looked at a Patriot team take the field an not look and play prepared…I think not and the laugher about this whole issue is that I hate Bllichek with a passion

]]> By: RK http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117458 RK Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:13:53 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117458 Last 5 games Brett Favre 2 TD 9 INT. My thoughts exactly Ferraro41. I thought that coach should get one more year, with a QB that may have a chance to be the starter for more than 2 years, but I'm not surprised and I'm not that disappointed. Cowher is noncommittal and if anything said he's not going to coach this coming year. Spagnolo I'd give a shot to for sure. Maybe Crennel as D coord. Maybe bring in someone that is not associated with Bellicheat would be good too. 3-4 next year? Last 5 games Brett Favre 2 TD 9 INT.

My thoughts exactly Ferraro41. I thought that coach should get one more year, with a QB that may have a chance to be the starter for more than 2 years, but I’m not surprised and I’m not that disappointed.

Cowher is noncommittal and if anything said he’s not going to coach this coming year. Spagnolo I’d give a shot to for sure. Maybe Crennel as D coord.

Maybe bring in someone that is not associated with Bellicheat would be good too.

3-4 next year?

]]> By: gang green http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117433 gang green Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:56:45 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117433 seanmac 31 u must be psychic or have spoken with the front office of the Jets last night to make these comments...I in no way see Favre returning and also see a greater chance of him retiring while he still has some dignity left...although Mangini had a great personality with the press and the fans,,, his lack of discipline with the players and non aggressive play calling caused his demise....I feel although Mangini was a scape goat for other issues with the team Mangini did earn his right to a fresh new pink slip...and to all those who say Mangini had two winning seasons with the talent he has on this team 1 or 2 games over .500 isnt going to cut it...shoot even his players didn't openly stick up for him in the press when they were questioned so from the inside out Mangini was doomed to get fired this year.... seanmac 31 u must be psychic or have spoken with the front office of the Jets last night to make these comments…I in no way see Favre returning and also see a greater chance of him retiring while he still has some dignity left…although Mangini had a great personality with the press and the fans,,, his lack of discipline with the players and non aggressive play calling caused his demise….I feel although Mangini was a scape goat for other issues with the team Mangini did earn his right to a fresh new pink slip…and to all those who say Mangini had two winning seasons with the talent he has on this team 1 or 2 games over .500 isnt going to cut it…shoot even his players didn’t openly stick up for him in the press when they were questioned so from the inside out Mangini was doomed to get fired this year….

]]> By: roof http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117428 roof Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:55:20 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117428 is mike tice still around? is mike tice still around?

]]> By: Ferraro41 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117426 Ferraro41 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:54:11 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117426 I'd just like to know how Tannenbaum escapes culpability here. Last night, when Woody was interviewed after the game, he said that while he expected the decision to be made relatively quickly, he did not want to make any decisions while the emotions of the end of the season are still running high. So much for that. I think he deserved at least one more year. He’s a young coach, certainly not some crusty old codger who is set in his ways. That is, I think there was still hope for him to be open to trying to fix what is wrong, even if it meant changing parts of his approach. Anyway, so now we start over. Again. I’d just like to know how Tannenbaum escapes culpability here.

Last night, when Woody was interviewed after the game, he said that while he expected the decision to be made relatively quickly, he did not want to make any decisions while the emotions of the end of the season are still running high. So much for that.

I think he deserved at least one more year. He’s a young coach, certainly not some crusty old codger who is set in his ways. That is, I think there was still hope for him to be open to trying to fix what is wrong, even if it meant changing parts of his approach.

Anyway, so now we start over. Again.

]]> By: RK http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117424 RK Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:52:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117424 I don't know if I would have fired him because the team has developed in his philosophy and the money spent this past offseason is now like confetti. It isn't my money though. Otherwise my guesses are these: Mangini stuck by his O and D coordinators and took a stand saying if they go he goes. Woody spoke with NFL people and found out that there are replacement options and he didn't want to waste time to get one (he did the same to get Mangini somewhat). The players got tired of him and asked that he go. His shtick was old and his gamplanning convinced them that he's not going to lead them to victory. I think and said at the time that Favre isn't the answer. I wonder if Mangini would be gone if Chad was here? I don't love him but I thought things were getting better. It wasn't Mangini giving up 3rd and longs all year. Perhaps it was his coaching or the D Coord or coverages instead of blitzes I don't know. I just don't think it was Mangini's fault when it comes down to it. Perhaps he isn't great and Cowher will do well here. He certainly will get respect. I don't know who else I'd rather have. I think Marty has it in him to win a SB maybe. He did make SD a formidable team but he's older and he still did not win the big game. I don’t know if I would have fired him because the team has developed in his philosophy and the money spent this past offseason is now like confetti. It isn’t my money though.

Otherwise my guesses are these:

Mangini stuck by his O and D coordinators and took a stand saying if they go he goes.

Woody spoke with NFL people and found out that there are replacement options and he didn’t want to waste time to get one (he did the same to get Mangini somewhat).

The players got tired of him and asked that he go. His shtick was old and his gamplanning convinced them that he’s not going to lead them to victory.

I think and said at the time that Favre isn’t the answer. I wonder if Mangini would be gone if Chad was here? I don’t love him but I thought things were getting better. It wasn’t Mangini giving up 3rd and longs all year. Perhaps it was his coaching or the D Coord or coverages instead of blitzes I don’t know. I just don’t think it was Mangini’s fault when it comes down to it.

Perhaps he isn’t great and Cowher will do well here. He certainly will get respect. I don’t know who else I’d rather have. I think Marty has it in him to win a SB maybe. He did make SD a formidable team but he’s older and he still did not win the big game.

]]> By: Chris http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117423 Chris Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:51:47 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2008/12/29/mangini-out/#comment-117423 Parcells?! Lay off the Johnny and weed for breakfast. Come on guys, get serious. Cowher is our one chance at a proven name. After that, it's a list of 'trendy' coordinators. I agree Spags could happen but no Parcells, no Holmgren, so let's not even bring it up. 1. Cowher 2. Spagnoulo 3. Ron Rivera Long shot....Mariucci :) Parcells?! Lay off the Johnny and weed for breakfast. Come on guys, get serious.

Cowher is our one chance at a proven name. After that, it’s a list of ‘trendy’ coordinators. I agree Spags could happen but no Parcells, no Holmgren, so let’s not even bring it up.

1. Cowher
2. Spagnoulo
3. Ron Rivera

Long shot….Mariucci :)

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