Comments on: Breaking News: Shanahan Fired Too

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:03:41 +0000

I have 2 concerns with Shanahan, who I don’t want. First, he is 1-4 in the playoffs since Elway retired. Second, Denver has the most unique home field advantage in the NFL with the high altitude and thin air. Shanny built his Denver teams to exploit that advantage with smaller, quicker, more aerobically fit players. I don’t think that works in the East where size and smashmouth football is prevalent.

Whichever HC is hired has to run a 3-4 or a hybrid. There’s too many pure 3-4 players, including Pace, Harris and Thomas.

By: Mel31602

Mel31602 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:50:45 +0000

I think Shanahan was so bad in Denver on D because he didn’t have the talent… he was the GM the past few years and blew it on draft picks and free agents. As long as they keep Tanny picking the personnel and pick a 3-4 D coordinator they should be fine with Shanahan as the coach.

By: gang green

gang green — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:46:29 +0000

COACHES WISH LIST #1 Cowler#2Bill Parcel and Spagnoula#3 Shanahan and Rex Ryan

By: swizzle81

swizzle81 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:51:31 +0000

Shanny would be a terrible fit for this team. His Denver teams have consistently ranked in the bottom of the league in defense for the past several years. He also went thru 3 DC the past 3 years. The Jets need someone with a little fire and a strong defensive background.

As for OC I wouldn’t mind Callahan for OC at all. I believe he was responsible for the improvement in the running game.

By: Bent

Bent — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:18:27 +0000

KAGE – I don’t think you ever rule a guy out because of system. I’d rather get the best candidate and suffer some initial teething troubles than just get some retread because “at least we won’t have to change scheme”.

Besides, Spags runs a hybrid, so the upheaveal might not be all that bad. I’m sure he would be able to adapt it to make the most of Jenkins strength.

By: Bent

Bent — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:15:27 +0000

Re: Callahan. Granted his record as a head coach is bad, but he deserved the chance based on his reputation which was founded on his excellent work as an offensive line coach.

I don’t disagree that the line wasn’t perfect, but Mangold went to the Pro Bowl, the primary pass protector (Brick) gave up just three sacks was named as a Pro Bowl alternate (he was robbed by the way) and they were one of the best running games statistically in the AFC with a ton of TDs, leading to Jones (who had 1 TD last year) and Washington going to Hawaii too.

Maybe some of the calls for him to become OC are a bit undeserved, but the ENORMOUS improvement over last year was not all down to Alan Faneca (who, by the way, was not coincidentally on a line that was one of the worst pass protection units in the league last year – that is not his strength…and similarly Damien Woody may have struggled at times with his pass protection, but was primarily in there to run block and did well).

Finally, one of Callahan’s roles was running game coordinator, so Schott had more responsibility for the passing game and maybe the pass protection issues, which were not THAT bad anyway, were down to him.

Not a glowing endorsement, but those are the reasons.

By: nyckage

nyckage — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:00:41 +0000

OK so it’s official we give up on Spags and any other 4-3 coach. But i have a feeling the Jets might still try hard to get Spag, but all you fools who say Shanhan,OK, the guy is a good offensive coach, he will basically focus badly on the offense, it won’t even be funny, so our D will look horrible, no matter how much talent we have

I would want to go after Marty, but then he might want to keep Brian, well I don’t hate him, but he needs to work on his consistency( play calling namely) but other than that he ain’t so bad.

By: LeeH

LeeH — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:55:47 +0000

Okay, I have been reading these posts for a long time now.. I am yet to voice my opinion. There have been some great discussions on here over the last few days and I commend.

I am not one to be overly critical because everyone is entitled to their opinion, but why is their so much love on this board for Bill Callahan…

He inherited a Rich Gannon coached team and took them to the Super Bowl sure but he was grossly outcoached by Gruden in that game and then run out of town..

He did nothing at Nebraska and In my opinion the Jets o line did not live up to potential this season….Remember folks, Callahan’s specialty is the west coast offense and this year’s lines biggest weakness was pass blocking..

I am not saying the line wasn’t very good, they were. Look at how Tanny brought in. It is not like we were dominant, we were good. We have the potential to be dominant and thats why imho Callahan did not do a particularly good job…

Please someone come at me strong on the defensive..Maybe there is something I am missing. Do not get trapped in the fact that he has experience. He does not fit Cowher’s style at all..

By: Bent

Bent — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:41:58 +0000

jpl – in a 4-3 your linebackers must be fast. Harris and Pace are not – and Barton is an unrestricted free agent.

By: jp losman

jp losman — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:37:42 +0000

it sure would be a nice joke played on jets fans. weren t there a number of 4-3 dt’s in the draft last year at #6.

not calling gholsten a bust, i m just saying