NEWSBREAK: Cowher Out Of The Running
The Associated Press is reporting that Bill Cowher has withdrawn his name from consideration for the Jets head coaching job.
It doesn’t sound like strong-arming or some form of negotiating tactic; rather, Cowher has had a chance to weigh the initial pros and cons of the position and decided to look elsewhere… Denver maybe?
So, loyal readers, now what?
84 Responses to NEWSBREAK: Cowher Out Of The Running
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Chrebookie says:
All this JETS gossip makes me sick.
It all started with Favre…. And Mangini paid the price. Ridiculous!
I want my Penny back.
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pkpiazza says:
i guess this means Spags right?
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Marty… OMG not marty
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Freeman McNeil says:
Why do I get a sick feeling that after all is said and done, herm Edwards will be coaching the Jets in 2009?! eff..
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Jets-Fan-4-Life says:
This Sucks!!!!
The Jets are doomed forever! We are never going to get that overly aggressive defense that will crush everyone.
I blame the media for getting my hopes up.
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MCM says:
Why not Marty, 200 career wins only 2 losing seasons in 20 years, and no titles. We need to remember that no one has won in two locations, so a Vermeil like hire wouldn’t be bad. I’m not thrilled with Spags, we have done hot assistant, great personality, we need a guy veterans will respect immediately and has the ability to demand instant respect in the locker room as the man in charge, and that includes Favre.
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jetchick says:
This cuts to the bone for me. He had the credentials, toughness and discipline to harness our talent and instill the drive and desire to win.
I thought his coaching style matched well with our players skills and the transition would be a good one.
I can’t help but wonder if Favre hanging in the shadows helped scare him off more then Mr.T treading on personnel decisions.
We need an old cool tough guy with brains and a track record…..any suggestions other the Billick…
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Hopefully we get Spagnuolo. He’s better regarded now than Mangini back then, and I think he’d whip this D back into shape. I say no to Marty because that means we have to keep Brian around…ugh…
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I actually think Billick is a good idea too…
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Neil says:
This is a blessing in disguise. Jets fans would instantly turn on Cowher for his excessively conservative coaching. He’d make Herm seem like the mad bomber.
Shanahan is the choice if he’ll coach this year. Great game manager and game-planner. Runs both an organized and motivated team. Was so impressed watching them in person vs. us this year. Intricate and interesting plays and their sideline looked like they were on speed they were so hyped up.
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I think any coach inherits Brian, the reports seem to say they view him long term here which means we need an offensive coach that can run the operation that is smart enough to hire a top DC because they have stature.
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As I stated before this sucks!
The worst part is Cowher would not have changed the current model of our “D”. He would have just made them mean!!
If I recall all other candidates are not fans of the 3/4. This means ….. another re-building year!!!
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Shamahan will probably want control over personnel. If not though, I’m all for him coaching the team. He is one of the best.
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Corey Griffin says:
For those you who want Shanahan, he’s going to want total control, more than Cowher wanted.
Now, look at the Broncos drafts the past 10 years and outside of a handful of players, find useful NFL players.
He’s a good to very good coach who maybe needed a change of scenery but is an absolutely horrid judge of personnel overall
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Hangar says:
This team has a dark cloud over it…lets hope we can get Shanahan and also get rid of Farve..
Bookie…I said before the start, Penny would do this year and cost us nothing!!!
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Also, besides the drafts, he was willing to take on Robertson’s contract, the Browns D-line, John Lynch way past his prime, passed on re-signing good LBs. If Shanahan wants personnel control, I say no chance.
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Any new coach that gets Woody for an owner, Shotty for an OC and Brett for a QB is in trouble before he starts. We’re stuck with Woody but the other 2 must go.
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This may be a blessing in disguise. We can now pursue Mike Shanahan. He has 2 rings to Cowhers 1. Plus he can run a game, manage the clock and make any QB better. Did Elway win any rings before Shanahan?
If Cowher doesn’t want us let him stay in the broadcast booth and we can wait one more year to see him crying again. -
jetchick
you are correct….all must go OC, DC and Brett. I waited 40 years what’s a few more if we can get it right.. -
tommyfromsi says:
throw the kichen sink at shanahan and keep spags as your number 2
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since spags runs a hybrid u think he could work with a 3-4 hybrid caus eid rather not have to go through wat we just went through with mangini for the last few yrs
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Igs says:
Shanahan needs a year off. Billick or Parcells anyone? Please no asistants.
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http://www.profootballtalk.com is speculating Shanahan to the Jets, so maybe some life to that possibility …
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I bet my lunch money that the front office will hire Jim Fossel, since he took the Giants to the Superbowl in 2000, and he lives in NJ, and since he hasn’t coached a team in a few years he won’t cost much.
Just what we need…..Another “Tool” in this broken down shed!
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fassel’s just not the right personality for this team. A bunch of underacheivers need a hard, cerebral guy like parcells to stick it to them.
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Favre will walk all over Fassell. No thanks!
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Please no Parcells, he walked away from championship caliber talent here once, and he is as much of a drama queen as Favre.
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yea, i don’t blame any of this mess on Favre. But him not being reigned in is def part of the picture.
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MCM..PFT
Mike Florio…anyone can say what he says. It was mentioned on this Blog before he said it.
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i want spags now with callhan as the oc and idk who for DC
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No more coordinators. Please, no Spags. No more on the job training.
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Does any one want a 40 year old QB?
Let’s get real……we need a qb who will be with us for years to come. We took our shot and it did not work… Woody and T need to move on. -
than who else, id want marty ball cause u kno hes not gonna fire shotty and shanny wants control of everything
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Doesn’t anyone think that after Edwards and Mangini, we could put a stop sign to the DC experiment? I don’t get it.
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lafflin says:
If I’m cower or any other acomplished head coach I wouldn’t want to come here and coach for a team that’s insisting on keeping Favre.
The number one problem we had this year is Favre, the number one problem we’re going to have next year is Favre.
No matter who we hire we’re going to turn the ball over too many times and we’re going to loose. Period. What self respecting coach wants to be a part of a team that has no chance of winning.
C’mon, it’s not like what happen this year was an anomoly, he’s always thrown a lot of pics.
He had a decent year last year but how did it end….with a pic, same as this year, same as next year. -
If Cowher is truly off the table, and its because he doesn’t want to be a Jet, then I hope he “Farts” on National TV this weekend and Boomer calls him on it!!!!
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my #1 choices would be 1. Parcells – with a REALLY binding contract. 2. Shanahan with some personnel help. 3. Billick with with his training staff and personnel people. Come on… the 2000 Ravens… come on.
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i still want Spags, just to fix our D he would be great, i think Callahan can handle the O
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Is Vince Lombardi available?
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How is favre the problem?
If you’re a defense and there’s no receiver to key in on and the opposing coach doesn’t know how to use his own runing game against you and the the QB is old and immobile, then you can just pin your ears back and key in on that old QB. Peyton Manning couldn’t be effective under those conditions.
So how is it Brett’s fault if Mangini never figured out how to protect him and use him right and reign him in.
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LGS – Good thought but Bill Parcells is way too smart to get locked down in a contract.
If we were to get him back (and I believe he would go to Detroit if he wanted out of the year long summer golf weather) he would only dump us again after taking the team to the playoffs once.
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can’t argue with that Fan4life.
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kc. says:
TWO WORDS………STEVE SPAGNUOLO
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Spags needs another year with the jints.
PS: I’m also a jints fan.
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The hot coordinator scares me. All the former hot choices, Rod Marinelli, Marty Moringweg, Marvin Lewis, Mike Martz, Lovie Smith, Romeo Crennell, Dick LeBeau, MIke Tice, Gary Kubiak, and Lane Kiffin. There are ones that worked, but we need a choice that is safe we have too many players that are short-term now players.
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Crusty The Clown says:
Who cares… the next coach won’t change the second class nature of this franchise. Carroll was run out of town. Tuna tried. Groh and Bellichick wanted nothing to do with this team.
Notice how players an coaches are better when they leave? Holtz, Riggo, Carroll, Bellichick, Farrior, Hugh Douglas, Jeff Blake.
The Mets of the NFL. 2nd class all the way.
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Jets did win Superbowl 3. I feel your sentiment but as little as they give us, we gotta hope someone can put it together.
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Its just so unbelievable that its been 40 years since our only championship.
Hey Woody, I got an idea!
If Brett comes back have him follow in the steps of Joe Namath, and sell his soul for another championship! If not can you make Sutton do it!!
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klecko71 says:
hey crusty…..using hugh douglas and jeff…blake… to support you view is quite……a stretch.
and pete carroll is the coach of a college team in case you didnt remember.
sorry…..
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Holmgren says:
TWO WORDS……..Mike Holmgren
This team was put together for immediate success. So if Favre stays, you have to double down on next season. Upgrade the D and WR.
How many more games would we have won if Favre had just 5-7 less interceptions?
Now we’re hearing he’s been banged up pretty good for a while? Not an excuse for bad play, but if it was a legitimate lingering injury it does make you wonder if we have a healthy Favre do we have the 8-3 team back?
My point is this team has potential, and if the team has a coach that can utilize Favre, Leon and Jones to their highest potential, there will be less mistakes and more wins, which will liklely end up as a lock for the playoffs next year.
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Na Klecko, Crusty is right – There’s Farrior, Penington, Belicheat, Coles when he was a Redskin, Santana Moss, Aaron Glenn, and many more.
Also, I’d bet that Robertson and Vilma are stars when all is said and done.
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ridinmywave says:
this hurts
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Joe B. says:
Anyone who wants Marty knows nothing about football.
lgs – First, quit saying “we” and “us.” You root for two freaking teams and the other just won the Super Bowl. You don’t live and die with this team like most of us here do. And damn near none of the players you mentioned “got better” after they left the Jets. D-Rob will never be a star, and Vilma’s a decent linebacker, nothing more. Take a seat.
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Freeman24 says:
Hangar, laffin – you’re spot on.
Why does it seem that everyone is looking past the obvious – Favre is old, blows and did way more bad than good this year. Why do we want him back ?
I heard an interview with Cotchery on the radio today, he made multiple comments about the difficulty the WRs had in building chemistry with Favre due to the lack of time, the way Favre had material input on the playcalling and how difficult the Jet offense is for anyone to learn on the fly.The NFL is too competitive now, part of what happened at the end of the year was the inability for the Jets to utilize the entire scheme (due to Favre’s playbook limitations) when opponents adjusted to what we did well against Arizona, NE and Tenn. It kills me to know we eliminated elements from the scheme and added based on what he was comfortable with. Schotts best quality was the depth, diversity and creativity of the playbook.
Give Clemens a shot Woodenbaum ! he knows the offense now, he’s gotten his feet wet, he’s smart, he had a rough start (so did freaking Eli in this very town) He showed signs of clutch play with 4th Qtr comebacks, has really good arm with a very quick release. If Favre is such a god, something should have rubbed off on KC. Sign a capable Free Agent as insurance, let Ratcliff compete as a wild card. We should be running the ball anyway.
Here’s the best part Woody, if the above suggestion bombs, you draft a prima dona 1st rd pick QB and use him to sell some tickets to your new stadium (see Ryan, Manning, Rothlesberger, Flacco, Rivers, etc.).
Don’t make us into the Isiah Knicks !!! (Favre = Marbury) ok maybe not that bad. Don’t tell me this team is built to win now, the only ancient veteran other than Old man Favre is Faneca and he’s already made Brick/Gold better.
Freeman McNeil – was any Jet (other than Broadway Joe) more clutch in the playoffs than Freeman? One positive is we’ve got a couple of backs now doing him and Curtis some justice.
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Nothing is Free says:
“Schotts best quality was the depth, diversity and creativity of the playbook.”
-Freeman24
You’re kidding right? Schott is an epic disaster. Worst play calling I’ve seen out of any NFL year or team in my life time.
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Schott – no respect for the fundamentals of playcalling. Overcomplicated. No respect for the running game. Truly “an epic disaster”
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Klecko71
Enlighten me on the “71″ since Joe Klecko actually wore 73. His son wears 49 for the Eagles.
Hugh Douglas was a beast and we gave him away to Philly for a 2nd round pick who turned out to be a bust. Jeff Blake was A LOT better than Neil O’Donnell and his dopey band of backups Bubby, Reich and Glenn Foley. Again the Jets gave him away for nothing.
History yet again repeated itself when we gave Chad away for nothing. You really think a 1st class organization does this to their starting QB? And don’t tell me we couldn’t trade him to KC for a 7th rounder.
I know my Jets history so bring it!
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Joe B – you’re ridiculouse.
Just because you have some notion in your head about what a true fan is don’t apply it to me. I’m a New Yorker, lived here my whole life. I love the Knicks, I love the Yankees and I love the Mets. I love the Rangers and the islanders. I love the Giants and the Jets. I love sports and I love my home town so don’t tell me who I can be a fan of.
Not over a blog response.
And yes, look at the stats, all those players got phenomenally better when they went to other teams.
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@Nothing is Free, Amen. That’s reason #1 that Marty would be a disaster.
@Crusty, We gave Chad away for nothing to not hold him up, it was a reward for his service as much as anything else. Who cares? we have bigger fish to fry than the 4th round draft pick we might or might not have gotten for damaged goods Chad. We were stupid to let him go to begin with, but that’s a whole ‘nother story, as they say down in Kiln, Mississippi
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oleosmirf says:
Pennington was our QB for how many years?? and how many times did he show us that his arm wasnt strong enough to complete the big pass.
Sure this dink and dunk offense the Dolphins have is great for Pennington but if he were our QB all season the only thing we’d be looking forward to is a top 10 draft pick where we’d probably pick another guy Mangini wont even bother to play…
I mean seriously how do u draft a guy 5th overall and not even play him once during the season…I mean really 3rd and long and you cant just send him out there to rush the passer???
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Hell…Lets get Ditka and be done with it. Its either retreads or new guys. Some of these retreads who failed elsewhere and are burned out just won’t work. The Ravens, Falcons and Dolphins all did well with new blood. New blood not trying to do a Belichick impersonation.
Head coaches work their ass off. If the team does well the players get most of the credit, and if the team does poorly its the heads coaches fault.
Mangini was so rigid , tight and unemotional….and he made some bad decisions to say the least. If he acted like more of a players coach and showed fight and toughness we would have forgiven him….I think.
If he surrounded himself with better coordinators he might of had greater success.
His undoing was a QB that is a legend, should have stayed retired, and who was a terrible fit for our team. As fans we all wanted to see some fire from him, better game time decisions.
God only knows what we will be in for now. At least with him we knew what we had. And if we had no Brett, no Sutton and no Shottenheimer…well we would still have Mangini.
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oh yeah….two MORE words……DUMP FAVRE.
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i also think firing MANGINI was a mistake……..all depends on WHO we get next.
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while Brett was awful towards the end of the year, when your WR dont get open, theres not much the QB can do.
The Jets only have 2 WR and Coles is WAY passed his prime. Give Brett a guy like Houshmanzadeh to throw the ball to and the TDs go up and the INT go down…
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For years Woody Johnson has been talking about getting some “continuity” with his New York Jets franchise, which is basically his way of saying he’d like to get a coach and a GM and a few stars on the team who are capable of winning for several consecutive seasons. It’s basically his way of saying he’d like his team to be more like the New England Patriots.
Johnson’s latest attempt at that particular goal officially ended yesterday, when he and GM Mike Tanenbaum announced that Eric Mangini – who, by the way, was a former New England assistant – had been fired as Jets head coach after three seasons and one five-week disaster. Johnson, who has always come off as a little softer than one might expect from a New York owner, surprised everyone by actually making the move, including Mangini, who had said only 15 hours earlier, “Yeah, I do,” to a reporter who asked if he expected to return for another year.
“We just felt that we could get a better fit moving from this point,” Johnson said at a morning news conference. “I don’t think it was one thing. It was just Mike’s and my judgment that we had to go in a different direction. There’s nothing specific. It’s just a call that we made and hopefully it is correct.”
Correct or not, it is certainly understandable, if only because Mangini was on board with the $140 million or so the Jets shelled out in free agency last offseason. He knew the expectations that come with that kind of outlay, knew the repercussions of not delivering. And then he didn’t deliver. The Jets had a league-high seven Pro Bowlers on their team; they were 8-3 and coming off wins over New England and a previously-unbeaten Tennessee; and they were being touted as legitimate Super Bowl contenders as recently as Thanksgiving. That they collapsed and lost four of their last five games to miss the postseason is a reflection of the coach’s inability to get his players to maintain performance levels they’d shown they were capable of reaching.
So Mangini goes. But the Jets can’t, and shouldn’t, stop there. Mangini’s demeanor, motivational skills and in-game decision-making are valid points of criticism, but the Jets downfall was hardly his fault alone. There are others who should be held accountable, too.
The Jets need to start over. Sustained success is most frequently found in stable situations and stable situations often develop when the pieces can grow together. Mangini’s departure should be the impetus for a whitewashing of the organization’s featured positions, with the hope that a new combination of pieces can do better than the old.
The Jets will have a new coach and, if they’re smart, they will do everything they can to make it former Steelers coach Bill Cowher. They should also have new coordinators and a new quarterback, since it appears that Brett Favre might actually retire for good this time. They might start by looking in the draft: One good young quarterback, Joe Flacco, was drafted 12 spots after the Jets picked in last year’s draft and spent Sunday afternoon leading the Ravens to a win and a wild-card berth while the Jets’ season was imploding. But draft prep comes later. First there must be the overhaul, which is really the only logical reaction to a disaster like this one.
It’s also just plain fair: Mangini’s strategies were questionable during the Jets’ meltdown (particularly in Seattle, when he showed little faith in his team on multiple fourth-down plays), but the Jets also spent more than a month getting zero pass rush on opposing quarterbacks while their own quarterback struggled badly in a system that didn’t seem to fit him. Those deficiencies aren’t all on Mangini; they have to fall on defensive coordinator Bob Sutton, offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer and, ultimately, on Favre, too.
Tanenbaum gets a pass, at least for now, because he made offseason moves that ostensibly upgraded the Jets roster, adding talent in appropriate places and making use of the resources that Johnson gave him. That buys him another year, unless Bill Parcells – who somehow negotiated an out clause into his Dolphins contract that allows him to become a free agent if Miami owner Wayne Huizenga sells the team – hits the market and is interested in coming back to the Jets to make personnel decisions. If Parcells, who turned a 1-15 Dolphins team into AFC East champs is available, then Tanenbaum should go, too.
Yesterday, only Mangini went. “It’s not a decision we reached (Sunday) or 10 minutes ago,” Johnson told reporters. “This is a decision that was basically running through the season. We don’t take this decision lightly. We respect Eric for what he’s done, but we want to build on the successful foundation that he’s laid.”
That was soft Woody talking. If the foundation was so successful, Mangini would still have a job. Truth is, it wasn’t. It was just three more years without the comfortable feeling that Joe Torre and Derek Jeter gave Yankees fans, Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan gave Bulls fans, Terry Francona and David Ortiz gave Red Sox fans. It was just three more years of waiting.
Johnson wants continuity and that’s fine. It’s what he should want. He just can’t think that firing Mangini is all it will take. The Jets need to do more. Much more. Sometimes the best way to get continuity is to start over with a clean white page.
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sorry about all that other crap….didnt know that was gonna happen. GOOD article tho!
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and OBVIOUSLY the whole BILL COWHER thing is dead.
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mangini will become the browns hc and lead them to a division title..book it…typical jet luck
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jscott2000 says:
ok so i like how nobody has mentioned STEVE MARRIUCCI.!!!1 Cmon now hes perfect for NY…close connection w/farve….his only let down was going to detroit he needs talent to work with and he has that w/NY……….bring it on moooooochi
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CWPOST says:
typical freaking JETS ! Plain and simple ! Our organization is clueless ! It starts from the TOP ! Just when I began to believe we’re headed in the right direction. BANG ! I’m seriously debating whether
we’re really cursed?One dissappionted Jets Fan !
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TOON2388 says:
what is the world coming to when teams like the Bills have to announce a guy who is under contract will be back? Because Mort & co. speculated he was gone?
Let’s make the NFL a lot easier on all of us: Kiper, Mort, King, & Clayton will draft college players for every team in April – that way guys like Casserly, who make correct decisions, but get canned due to those 4 schmucks will be taken out of the picture.
Then, when the season starts, let’s not play any games, let’s let Mort, King, & Clayton tell us who will win each week.
The area where Mangini failed the most this year was “playing not to lose.” Week 1, runs on 3rd down when 1st down ices game. Week 10, same thing in Foxboro. Week 14 @ SF, not going for 4th & 2 on 1st drive was criminal. Week 16 kicking that FG on 1st drive was worst decision a coach made since Leon Johnson halfback option pass in Det in 1997.
Rhetorical question: had Cowher & Woody/Tanny hit it off, would we have been subject to Rooney Rule? It is a good rule, but in this hypothetical case, you have 1) clear cut best available coach regardless whether he is white, black, green, or purple 2) an organization that had a minority coach for 5 years from 2001-2005 – so it is established that race is not an issue on who is hired.
I think we made a mistake in letting EM go – he had a bad year, no question, but aside from Cowher is there anybody that we will be 100% confident in? Spags is a “hot” coordinator – just like Wannstedt, Turner, Gilbride, Romeo, etc….no guarantee he will be a good LEADER, but he might. Let’s just understand it is a crapshoot.
Really bummed about Cowher – was hoping that would cure my ills of going berserk when TJ runs for 4 on 1st down and we pull him and go shotgun and 4 wide with Leon on 2nd & 6.
I wanted KC to start in 2008, Favre trade was my 2ndchoice, Chad was my choice 3. If Miami wins Super Bowl, I will eat crow, if they do not, then had Chad been our QB we might have one game more. Chad & Miami benfitted the exact same way we bendfitted in 2006 – new staff and no film – every week was a surprise. I cannot wait to bet under 8 or 9 on Miami win total in 2009.
I am not sure I can take many more seasons like this emotionally – hope and then it is dashed. 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1993, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002,2004, & now 2008.
we are only 13 years away from the Rangers ineptitude of 54 years.
Good night from the left coast
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Robert Mueller says:
I agree with you Neil about the fear of “excessively conservative coaching.” Not being imaginative during the game. And, for example, “establish the run.” Some of the best coaches “establish the pass” and then run later. Pittsburgh is a run the ball, run the ball, pound it out team, so the same issues would have come up again with Cowher that did with the perceived differences between Mangini and the “player-coach” Favre. Cowher might make a better fit elsewhere. Or if Favre goes … but you still have the history of these problems with the coach and Cowher may have been the same style of coach.
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Bent says: Toon – re: your rhetorical Rooney question, the Jets would still have to interview at least one black candidate, as farcical as that would be had they already made up their minds. Leslie Frazier is going to get a lot of interviews this year, but probably won’t be hired.
If I was looking for a head coach, I’d interview Herm as my Rooney rule candidate. Not because he’s a good candidate, just because it would be funny to hear him try and justify his abilities.
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zenlaw says:
I know it’s easy to be a Monday morning QB, but in retrospect, wouldn’t it have made more sense to stick with Mangini and Favre for the 2009 season and then bring Cowher in for 2010?
Like it or not, the Jets are stuck with Favre for next year. The penalty the Jets would have to pay if Favre was to be released and signed with an NFC North team is too stiff to risk. As for Mangini, I personally do not think that any of the potential candidates to replace him are that much better. I’d love to be proven wrong on that.
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JetRealist says:
I do not think the penalty applies anymore:
“Of course, the trade terms don’t prevent the Jets from, for example, releasing Favre on request after the 2008 season, so that he can get back to the NFC North, if he so chooses. Indeed, it wouldn’t be a shock to learn that Favre agreed to join the Jets only after the Jets agreed to let him go with no strings attached, if he decides after one year that he wants out.”
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/07/deal-blocks-re-trade-to-any-nfc-north-team/
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Bent says:
Zen – I think the Mangini/Favre relationship was untenable, but for the reasons you state, I won’t rule out a Schottenheimer/Callahan hire as a one year stop-gap / placeholder / scapegoat.
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Bent says:
Jetrealist is correct – the poison pill only applies if he is traded.
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Lowery's Lockdown says:
Cower is not the right guy for this job anyway.
Lest we forget we have 6 Pro Bowlers coming back with good talent (please get me WR Boldin a CB and a safety) across the board.
Marty is the right candidate for this job. He is passionate, can handle the veteran presence without quizzing them on who the backup left guard is and inspire men to come together for a common purpose.
Also, he is familiar with the team and personnel as he has watched every game the last three years with his son as O coordinator.
And what could be a better story line on the podium at the Super Bowl…40 year drought ended by coach who hasn’t won Super Bowl in 40 year career!
One can dream.
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crusty…..klecko73 was taken!!!! =) i was born in 71…. and klecko was my favorite jet.
and sorry AGAIN….but gimme a #+$#@@ break with jeff blake!!! yeah he was ok….better then bubby or foley doesnt exactly mean he was a freaking stud =)
blake had 2 decent years stats-wise for the bengals…28/17 with 3800 and 24/14 with 3600…but was 7-9 and 8-8. throwing bombs alot if i recall….and we had him for only 1 year….
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlakJe00.htm
agree on chad…..dont know how hard they tried to trade him, any pick would have been worth it.
and “lgs”….coles as a redskin?? didnt exactly win them anything, and i as i recall….snyder gave him an absurd amount of $$….widely regarded as too much. and if we give him another extension we are morons.
aaron glenn was solid for us…dont recall him leaving changing the world either.
and i also think that 99% of the people here would agree we dont have to worry about robertson making us look bad =)
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Jerry says:
I think Schotty should stay. He has two young QBs who have been in his system for 2+ years. The other Brett showed potential in the pre-season and Clemens hasn’t had a real shot yet. Schotty did not suddenly become stupid. He had to call plays that Favre liked and scrap the pre-snap motion. I think either of the young QBs would be a better fit than Favre.
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Mel31602 says:
I say Shanahan is my number one choice as long as he has no say over personnel- leave that to Tanny. After that I’d say give Billick a try- he has experience and would help our running game. I also wouldn’t mind hiring Callahan since he went to a Super Bowl and was given no chance in Oakland with Al Davis running the show. But please no Schottys (Brian or Marty). I want an experienced coach but not one who will lose in the playoffs for three years in a row and then get fired.
We should take a serious run at Marty or Shanahan — the last thing we need is another talented assistant coach, let’s hire a proven commodity with a win now team.