(3) A 7th round draft choice if he retires. (I wonder if this accounts for the life of his contract or only after the first year.)

A – It was explicitly stated in the agreement that this was only if he retired after the first year. Note that it would have been a 6th rounder if the Jets had made the playoffs and given up a 2nd round pick and a 5th if they had made the SB and given up a 1st rounder.

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Moyvore (again),

(4) If he retires (like he did in Green Bay) and the Jets use the 7th rounder in the draft, do they have to give it back if he pulls another spring “I’m unretiring” stunt?

(This qualifies as a trivia question.)

A – It’s actually a 2010 pick (although Cimini reported yesterday that it was a 2009 pick, I think this was an error on his part), so I would assume it is only triggered if he is not on the Jets roster on opening day 2009 by virtue of having retired. Obviously if he unretires after that point, his contract will have been terminated, so they should still get the pick. If he unretired before opening day then they would either have to cut or trade him, or keep him, so the compensatory pick should not be available.

Disclaimer: I have not seen the paperwork but this is the only logical way I can see it working, unless it is automatically triggered by his retirement even if the retirement is only temporary, but since the Packers have seen this a few times, I doubt they would accept that.

This appears to leave

(1) A $13 million reduction of available cap space for 2009 if Fauve is still the quarterback.

(2) If the Jets decide to use the $13 million in a more productive way, I suppose it is in Fauve’s future commercial interest to say he knows when its time to retire rather than suffering the ignominity of being cut.

(3) A 7th round draft choice if he retires. (I wonder if this accounts for the life of his contract or only after the first year.)

(4) If he retires (like he did in Green Bay) and the Jets use the 7th rounder in the draft, do they have to give it back if he pulls another spring “I’m unretiring” stunt?

(This qualifies as a trivia question.)

(5) The basic issue is whether or not in 2009 the Jets could use the $13 million more productively than to watch Fauve add to his NFL interception record.

A decison that likely falls on the new head coach.

I used to be a Giant fan…was in the stands for the 1958 Championship Game against the Colts. (Screamed for them to go for it on 4th down late in the 4th quarter rather than give Unitis another chance at their tiring defense….but Jim Lee didn’t listen to me.)

After many years of suffering, then 2 Super Bowl wins, I stopped being a Giants fan after George Young told Belichick he had to look elsewhere for a head coaching position and later gave the job to Ray Handley. Watching the Dan Reeves offense was like watching paint dry.

Still can’t believe Woody let Belichick get away after he asked for his HC NYJ job back in January 2000 in favor of Al Groh. But I suppose he felt he had to smother Parcells’ ass with kisses even when Parcells was preparing to bail out on him.

I think Woody’s a nice enough guy for someone who had a trust fund buy him a sports team to play with, but dumb and impulsive then, and dumb and impulsive now. Maybe he’ll get lucky someday…but I doubt it.

Belichick was the model of success and Mangini was hired to replicate it. You learn that in 8th grade: “Can I copy your homework?” Except that Mangini didn’t seem particulary proficient in being able to tear up a defensive game plan that wasn’t working and cobble together a new one in on the fly.

Scheming is a talent that can frequently overcome an oposition’s superior physical skills but after a while deficiencies get exposed.

Mangini sifted though LOTS of of defensive backfield bodies to come up with two first class players (1 corner, one safety). At least he was tireless in trying to upgrade. For the first two years he was behind the eight-ball without a real nose tackle…and then after a marvelous start, Jenkins developed herniated discs in his back.

If the next coach combined Shanahan’s offensive mind with Belichick’s defensive brain the team would be fun to watch….but I’m not optimistic that will happen.

I’d rather have had Mangini continue as head coach with talented coordinators and a front office that is good a picking up players. (That’s why the Giant’s have been successful lately…it certainly hasn’t been been because of Coughlin.

Since it was Woody who “cut” Mangini, I wonder when he will begin experiencing the same cutters regret that he will always feel after trading Bellichick for a first round (#16) draft pick in 2000.

I’d say Mangini will eventually turn out to be worth more than the 4th rounder he got for Herm (even though that turned out to be Leon).

Make them king size Kewpies in honor of the best sports blog on the web.

harlan

You are the true definition of a front-runner.

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Nikolas,

Can we trade him to the Dolphins to get CHAD BACK!!

A – Yes, although I have a sneaking suspicion that the Dolphins might balk at such a trade.

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Rudibager,

Can we expect the last OWWL of the season? During these harsh times, it’s my favorite part of the week (aside from OWWW of course)

A – OWWL was Bassett’s baby, but (as you can imagine), I have plenty of unused OWWW material that should hit your screens in the fullness of time. Stay tuned!

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Harlan Lachman,

Bent, my understanding is that if the Jets cut Favre, and if he signs with an NFC North team, we still are on the hook for 3 first round picks. It is our responsibility to make sure the trade to us does not allow him to go to the NFC North during the duration of his contract. Is that correct or incorrect?

If I am incorrect, then those who said we can cut him if we choose without penalty, are correct. In fact, as you point out, we get a #7 pick. I would let the next coach choose.

OTOH, if I am right, if the poison pill is still in effect, we cannot cut him for the next two years. Favre is in the drivers seat if he wants to show up.

A – As you’ve seen, Bassett has confirmed in the other thread that you are wrong, so you have to give him one of your kewpies. Note, we only get the 7th rounder if he retires.

Here’s what Bassett said for completeness:

Harlan, it’s only in effect should the Jets try to TRADE him to the NFC Norht (sic) …

NFL.com’s Adam Schefter reports that the Packers took great pains to ensure that Favre would not be traded to the Vikings by inserting a “poison pill” in the deal. If Favre were to be traded to Minnesota, the Jets would have to surrender three first-round picks to Green Bay.

http://blog.nola.com/tpsports/2008/08/brett_favre_gets_traded_to_the.html

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nyckage,

Is there a chance, where our new coach will refuse to have Favre back and he wants to be back, like how Favre did in the last offseason with the Pack?

A – Sure, but there would be nothing stopping the new coach from cutting him.

Great question. Its what I have been thinking since the horrible Woody press conference. Favre has been here 5 months and it appears he already runs our franchise. I get the feeling Favre wants to play which is a nightmare for any proven head coach not named Marty. Shannahan and Cowher will never come here with this guys playing QB.