Opinion: The Wrong Move
Firing Eric Mangini was the wrong move for this franchise.
*Cue the boos*
I know this thought process is going to make me a tad unpopular here, but it needs to be said. This franchise continues in the same cycle coach after coach, aborted five-year plan after five-year plan. You win in the NFL with consistency — in front office, on the sidelines and in the booth. The players can change but the foundation cannot. Otherwise, you’re constantly involved in a rebuilding plan to fit the new coach’s systems. Now, the Jets are circling the coaching waiving wire, seeking someone to last longer than three years — again.
Look, I know that Mangini had his faults. He absolutely had problems. He was never good at making in-game adjustments and he seemed a little too emotionless for his own good.
It constantly seemed like he was trying to be Bill Belichick even though his personality never seemed to match that. However, the truth is that he was a damn good football coach just into his fourth year of high level coaching experience (coordinator and up). He’s going to make mistakes, but this is not Rich Kotite who doesn’t learn from his mistakes. Mangini was a smart man, as evidence by the fact that he was 10-6 in his first year with a 5-11 team. Truth be told, his only under-.500 year was due to front office mismanagement and a lack of players to fit the 3-4 defense he so desperately needed to make this team a constant contender.
Did he need to air out the garbage? Yes. But that should have been done with a 2-year extension (in name only; in reality just a year to see if he could right the ship) and the removal of both coordinator or at least Bob Sutton. Oh, and the firing of one of the true culprits of the Jets’ late season collapse: Brett Favre. Look, if Favre plays a SMIDGE better in those final four weeks, Mangini finishes at the magic 10-6 and he’s got his extension and can continue to build this team towards a better future. Instead, they’re now out chasing the next big thing.
The truth is that this was a coach who was beloved by most of his players — even the cantankerous Laveranues Coles. All you had to do was read, listen to and watch the exit interviews with the media to see that this team wanted Mangini back, not Favre. Not only that, he had winning seasons in two of his three seasons and a team on the uptick in the grand scheme. He and Tannenbaum had begun to build the franchise into something more than the butt of a bad Giants Stadium joke. But, alas, it’s not good enough, because someone’s head had to roll — but it shouldn’t have been Mangini’s.
It’s my humble opinion that it takes at least four years to turn a perennial loser (and trust me, the Jets are just that) into a perennial winner. Now, quick trivia question, since 1990, how many Jets coaches have lasted more than three?
Two.
Bruce Coslet and Herm Edwards.
Exactly.
I know Parcells left of his own volition, but it’s hard not to argue that the stinky mismanagement and overall incompetence that has permeated this franchise for the past 40 years didn’t do something to chase him away. Here we had a coach who wasn’t winning with smoke and mirrors, who wasn’t winning with someone else’s players (Hey, Herm, here’s looking at you). Here was a coach who had instilled his system, his way of doing things and had shown an abiltity to adapt at times (Shortening of practices and altering of camp). Don’t tell me he wasn’t enough of a players coach. Then why were so many players clamoring after he was fired, “He was the reason I came here.”
Was the team going to win the Super Bowl this year? No, they weren’t. But the Favre trade, the 8-3 start, and the wins over Tennessee and New England raised expectations to an unreasonable level. The truth is, that despite the San Francisco, Seattle, and Denver losses, they still could have won Sunday and Mangini would have stayed. Why did they lose? Oh, that’s right, hey Brett.
A couple years ago, if you’ll remember, there was a disciplinarian coach on the other side of the Giants Stadium hallways, who the media and fans were convinced he couldn’t do what it took to right the ship after an underachieving season. Instead of panicking, the franchise extended him, he looked himself in the mirror and tweaked what was necessary. Oh, and they also fired their defensive coordinator and brought in a young, aggressive mind (Remember, Mangini wanted Sutton out last year but couldn’t get Rob Ryan, so he stuck with him). You all know the rest. Hmm, I wonder why the Giants win so much.
The truth is that Eric Mangini was a good NFL coach. And those are hard to come by. It’s even harder to find two of those in a row — recycled ex-head coach or hot assistant.
So once again, looks like we’re headed for another rebuilding plan that’ll probably be aborted before it’s finished. See you in three years.
59 Responses to Opinion: The Wrong Move
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hank/naples says:
NEWSFLASH:
Hate to rub it in guys but Pennington Just won his second COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR AP award.
I guess his (well deserved) MVP is next.
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NJCoach8 says:
Man-GIna is lifeless good film room coach, players played the same way. Belichick at least showed fire on the sidelines with his defense coaching them up making adjustments.
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100% agree
I dont believe he lost his players. All I have heard and read was how Jenkins, Faneca, Rhodes, Cotchery, TJ. Leon etc.. were behind him. You have actually heard more negative comments towards Favre and how he was handled wih kid gloves (Woody’s policy) Something would have come out already if he lost his locker room. He was saddled with Favre and the last 5 games Favre was a out of control train wreck. Mangini had his faults but so do most 3rd coaches. I totally believe this was a mistake.
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Hangar says:
Hank..
Like Penny but it would have not happened here. He should be buying Farve dinner and thanking him for the ticket out!!! -
Corey:
Good stuff, good stuff but i Have to add that Mangini is absolutely a GREAT manager, however he had one flaw that may have caused his demise. He was loyal to a fault and found it “betraying” discipliniing those that were loyal to him. Not firing Sutton hurt him in the long run
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I Love the '90s says:
I was and am ambivalent on the Mangini firing. Corey makes some good points, but the NFL is a win now league and New York is a win now town. Losing four out of five to end the season and not winning a playoff game in three years just won’t cut it.
Favre on the other hand is a no-brainer. This guy hasn’t won a ring in 12 years, and at 40 years old clearly is not the answer for any team next year.
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David says:
(Disclosure: I am not a Jets fan, just an interested observer)
You’re right…..IF Mangini is the ONLY one to be fired. I know he’s a big part of the puzzle, and the one responsible for the games outcome, but it would appear to me, from a distance, that the “here we go again” feeling the Jets fans had during the December shows a pattern that one man alone cannot solve. I mean, look at the news today – Jerod Mayo is the defensive rookie of the year, Vernon Gholston was MIA most of the season. He was a workout monster, and the Jets scouts fell for that. That’s not Mangini’s fault totally. Plus, until the Denver game, he seems to have a good handle on Favre – getting him to rely more on the run. That all seemed to go out the window after the Denver game – could Brett keep it together?Just MHO
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subwayfare says:
CP wins Comeback award and Mayo wins D ROY. Awesome.
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Hangar:
You are right about the dinner part but ” it not happening here” is another subject.
The main reason I have soo much disgust with the ownership is that I’m absolutely convinced that Chad was primed, for the first time in his carrer, to make a solid run and make the Jets part of the ELITE, ELITE, teams of the NFL. We had ALL the pieces, except two, maybe three, in place. We needed that ingredient to bond everything toghether. That ingredient was Chad.
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Chad came back from what exactly?? From being horrible last year? He had a nice year but Comeback player of the year? How about guys like K Collins? Or A Bryant? The award is a stupid award anyway…..Congrats Chad
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Ian says:
The Jets need to seriously conceder Mike Shannan as a head coach and look at Romeo Cernel as a defensive coordinator the Jets need to revamp their coaching staff because what is going on now is. unexceptable !
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Bent says: Maybe it is the wrong move but (like the Favre trade, which was also probably the wrong move), what’s done is done.
I just hope they hire someone decent to replace him. After all, if it is the wrong move to fire him now, then that means they hired the right guy once only to get rid of him at the wrong time, so hopefully, this time they hire the right guy again and learn from that mistake (if it proves to be a mistake).
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ian says:
dear mr. t and woody: please, please hire rex ryan as the next hc.
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gsteigs says:
i read this site a couple times a day and it seams to me that whatever state the jets are in they go w/ it (magini should be fired now its a mistake.) its getting to be nonsense he probably will be a good coach but had to take the blame of his coordinators other teams game planned better and they never adjusted and he just let them run the same shit every wk.
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i read this site a couple times a day and it seams to me that whatever state the jets are in they go w/ it (magini should be fired now its a mistake.) its getting to be nonsense he probably will be a good coach but had to take the blame of his coordinators other teams game planned better and they never adjusted and he just let them run the same sh@t every wk.
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Bent says:
“CP wins Comeback award and Mayo wins D ROY. Awesome”
The only way this could be any worse is if Herm wins coach of the year.
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Drew;
Congrats Chad?? Comeback from what??
How about double rupture ligament of his right (planting) ankle that was kept quiet and played on all season. Then going into a new team with 29 new players two weeks before the start of a new season and lead them to a Division Championship. Like I said, the MVP should be next.
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pennington seams to be always in the race to be comeback player because hes always injured every other yr or horrible
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swizzle81 says:
Don’t worry Bent we will never have to worry about that.
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Dean Barbella says:
To Corey Griffin’s point regarding five year plans, would Steve Spagnolo change our defense back to 4-3. If so, that would suck. We gave up a pretty good linebacker in Jonathan Vilma!
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I’m glad he won. I like Chad, in spite of the fact some people feel one can only believe Chad can lead the Jets to a SB Title or hate him and there’s no in between. I wish him the best.
There is, however, a slightly disconcerting element to winning the Comeback Award twice.
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Bent, LOL.
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Corey Griffin says:
Dean,
I believe he would. Although it could possibly still have 3-4 elements, it likely would be a 4-3 base instead of the other way around. The good news is that players like Jenkins, Ellis, and Gholston would still work in the 4-3. It’d be interesting though, to see how it affects Pace and Thomas who’s struggles in the 4-3 have been well-documented.
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Najy says:
Sarge,
And anyone else who thinks Mangini lost his team…
What leads you to believe that? It seems to me that players are speaking openly about teammates but have had nothing but positive things to say about Mangini.
All the veterans liked him and he got a standing ovation from the team when he was giving his farewell speech…
Please tell me who you come to the conclusion tha the lost his team? or how they stopped playing for him?
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As for the Wrong Move, this is what concerned me about the Fire Mangini posse. I felt he was worthy of criticism and would have to do some real soul searching about some of his methods, approach, coordinators, etc., but changing coaches isn’t always as easy as it sounds. I had to believe that Woody and Mike T. already had a well thought out solution lined up but, as it now appears they did not, my anxiety about the way forward has increased dramatically.
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BubbyBrister/shovelpass says:
With all those “Comeback” awards, he should change his name to Shane Pennington…
Those awards pale in comparison to being called ‘Captain Comeback’ like Elway….
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As long as Favre gets the Sam Mills award for the screen to the DL, I’m happy.
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I respectfully disagree on a number of points.
-Continuity is an effect, not a cause. Teams like the Pats, Steelers, and Titans keep their coaches and win consistently because they are excellent coaches. These teams are also smart enough to keep their quality coaches through rough spells, which I think is your argument, but Mangini did little to show he is in the Belichick, Cowher, Fisher class in his three years. The Redskins stuck with Norv Turner for eight years. That didn’t work out. The Dolphins dumped Cam Cameron after one season. I don’t think they regret that a bit. Continuity is great if it is continuing something good. Continuity for the sake of continuity makes no sense.
-I agree Favre deserves a heaping portion of the blame, but if your quarterback is playing that badly, why run such a run averse offense, especially with the best tailback and fullback in the conference and a big offensive line. If you’re not even showing a semblence of run on third and short consistently in these situations, the coach deserves blame.
-There is no try involved with replacing coordinators. It either happens or it doesn’t. Rob Ryan was not the only qualifed candidate. In fact, I can’t figure out what makes him so desirable. Every year except one, his defenses have finished near the bottom of the league. Every Raiders fan I have spoken with has essentially the same complaints we had about Sutton (too conservative, team doesn’t execute, sloppy technique used by the players). We knew for sure that Sutton wasn’t cut for the job a year ago and that he would be a major negative if given another year. It behooved the head coach to identify this and change it immediately. There were plenty of qualified coaches available (Rex Ryan, Dom Capers, etc.)
-I don’t get how Super Bowl expectations are unreasonable for an 8-3 team with road wins over two of the league’s elite squads.
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Bent says:
Corey – I don’t see actually see a role for Jenkins in the defense Spags currently runs, although I expect he be able to would tweak it accordingly.
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Dave TN says:
I don’t think it’s clear yet whether this was a good/bad move. It seems like an indictment of a franchise to hire a 30-something coach and fire him for not being great right away. Hedidn’t lose the team, because he ran a tough but fair operation and worked harder than anyone else. Who are they going to get to coach Methusaleh and the rest of these underachievers next year who will be able to say the same things?
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charleyjet says:
Beloved? What are you smoking?
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Bent says:
I think I was possessed by Yoda when I wrote that last comment!
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Najy – I wanted to believe like you did about Mangini not losing his team in the end, especially as i compared it to what the Giants did in Fassell’s last year. But when i stop to think how ALL THREE facits of the team was so lackluster in those 5 games, you can’t help but think Eric lost his team. Then, when every week he was asked about what happened, he would mumble something about a great and consistent practice week, only to have the same flat team show up (except for the first drive in most cases). It was bizarre. So Favre’s injury speaks to some of what happened on Offense, but what about special teams? Why couldn’t we stop the run? Did Sutton pull a tendon in his brain or something? It stacks up against Mangini when you add it up, and that doesn’t even include the 4th and inches on the 2 yard line decision in Seattle. i wanted to build a case for Eric, too, especially because I didn’t want more turnover or rebuilding. but it is just sooo damn hard. Hell, His best friend Tanny couldn’t do it either.
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Jet_the_dog says:
Well i hope we stick with a 3-4… we have a great foundation for it… and if we get a coordinator or a Head Coach with a sack then maybe we can use some of that foundation to for blitzing like it should be… Our D was getting serious amounts of sacks until the denver game… Once we played denver i dont think we rushed more than 3 guys… ever… it looked like we dropped 8 on every play… We need Dick Lebeau… thats what we need.. that guy probly has a huge sack…
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BubbyBrister/shovelpass,
At what did he lost his team?
What game and at what point did he lose his the Jets?
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Jet_the_dog….Your insightful post gives new meaning to the New York Sack Exchange !
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Last five games, Najy. I sat in the rain during the Denver game, and this team looked woefully flat. i just chaulked it up to bad weather, and a typical crash after the ‘highs’ of the NE & Tenn. games. Then Seattle’s Slew, Buffalo’s bungling, Singletary’s impersonation of ‘captain morgan’, and finally chad’s comeback to haunt…and well …you know how it ends….
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SackDance99 says:
I agree withe everything Joe B said and I’ll add another. Corey glosses over Mangini’s poor in-game adjustments. That’s not a minor failing; it’s a major failing. Mangini often crafted excellent game plans, but he had to adjust on the fly in the 49ers game and Seahawks game and did not. He was badly out-coached in both, as he was in the Denver game and first Pats game.
Favre cost the Jets a victory on Sunday with that dumb pick 6…but, why wasn’t Chad blitzed and blitzed again? Baltimore blitzed and Chad threw a pick 6 on his home field to Suggs. In one of the few blitzes, Chad fumbled. Not exactly a great defensive game plan. What I also saw from Mangini was an obstinance that was unsettling, like running out of the same formation against the Pats at the goal line or sticking with that horrible Brad Smith “wildcat” package. I think Mangini will become a good HC, but that may be in 10 years. I, for one, was unwilling to wait.
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BubbyBrister/shovelpass,
So he lost his team after beating the best team in the NFL?
That doesnt make much sense to me. Thats why I find it hard to believe. There is something fishy that happend and i cant put my finger on it.
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MEL3602@aol.com says:
I agree with you too Corey- we needed continuity and Mangini wasn’t so bad that we couldn’t give him another year or two and see how he deals with better coordinators and QB play.
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Ben says:
The jets should NOT hire shanahan. We dont need x’s and o’s anymore we need passion. I would l0ve rex ryan
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Bill says:
I’ve been trying to gather my thoughts on the firing for a while, and I suppose this is as good a place as any to put them. Originally I was somewhat ambivalent, but would have preferred that they kept him. I laid (and still do) a large portion of the blame with the atrocious playcalling of both coordinators and the subpar play of Brett Favre. My thought was that they should give Mangini another year but axe both Sutton and Schottenheimer, and if he couldn’t pull it together to look elsewhere. At the same time I didn’t have a huge problem with Mangini going because as head coach he should have stepped in and altered the playcalling in some way over the course of the season, and he should be held culpable for allowing the incompetence of Sutton/Schott to continue. The more I think about it though, the less I like this firing. Mangini and Tannenbaum were building a roster with young talent all over the field, talent that was designed to fit his philosophy. Unless we can find a coach willing to adapt to our roster it will be another 2-3 years before this team is really ready to compete. We would have been much better off bringing in new coordinators and giving it another try. I won’t be surprised at all if 5-7 years from now some Mangini is winning some other more patient owner a Super Bowl and we will become to him what the Browns are to Belichick
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Jimbo says:
This team really just needed a new coordinator or two, not a entirely new coach. Bob Sutton woulda been gone last year but Al Davis screwed that up. With a real 3-4 coordinator we would’ve been able to utilize the 3-4 correctly unlike Bob who was totally uncreative with it. Brian Schottenheimer also could’ve been remove although I could live with another year of him.
Above all, sending Brett away would’ve helped. Our QB situation is shaky even without him but he really was terrible the last few games. He appeared like he was done, with that rifle of an arm looking like a water pistol. Combine that with questionable playcalling (again, Schotty’s fault) and bad decisionmaking by Favre and you’ve got a crappy version of Pennington. Another year of Mangini could have worked out. Instead, the boom was lowered on him but no one else took blame, and now we’re going to probably end up with a bad HC I bet.
Mangini took heat from the fans but he learned from some of his mistakes and didn’t make outrageous clock mistakes like a certain other turncoat who’s currently in KC. -
FavreSucks says:
Mangini wasput in a bad spot from the get go. Does anyone expect a 36 year old coach to properly handle a 39 year old, selfish hall of fame quarterback? It was a no win situation. They lose, and he takes the fall. They win and it’s Favre. I hated the Favre signing from the beginning and Mangini is paying for it now. Sucks to be him as that is probably the last thing he wanted to deal with. I hope Mangini goes somewhere else and does well and Chad already has done that. I hope Favre stays home and the Jets get someone to turn this ship around. I’m sick of the losing. Being a fan of the Jets, Mets, Knicks, and Isles might be one of the worst things to happen to anyone…
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Harvlis says:
Corey, In your article, you keep saying that Mangini is a good coach. What did he actually do, to make you say this? The coaching job that I watched was horrible.
He changed our whole defensive team around, in order to impliment a 3-4 defense. They did a great job against the run, for most of the season but, that can be attributed to Jenkins. When did Mangiini utilize the advantages of a 3-4? Why did the defense disappear, down the stretch? Where was the pressure? How many games in a row did they do the same thing?
Tannenbaum rebuilt the O-line, added an All-Pro fullback, and a HOF QB. We had the leading rusher in the AFC and the most explosive third down back in the league. We drafted a TE who is a mismatch for any LB or DB. How come we couldn’t put together more than one good drive, in most of the games down the stretch?
It all adds up to Mangini not having a clue.
His decision making during the game was lacking.
His team had no personality, on either side of the ball.
His players were not in love with him.
His defense was timid.
His offense underachieved.
He was out-coached on a regular basis.If you tell me that he had a winning record – I could have had a winning record, with seven All-Pros. Herm had a winning record. You want Herm back? Do you think KC is happy with him? Thank Tannenbaum and Woody for the winning record.
Too many fish in the sea. NEXT.
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Eddie DiGio says:
Mangini was a mediocre in game head coach at best. His future lies more in the front office of an organization than on the sidelines. The guy could def be in player personel somewhere, he finds guys in every round of the draft. But he tried to be Bill Belichek but just didnt have the credibility. He also let obvious problems linger and let Sutton run his defense into the ground. In New York there is a way to handle things when they arent run the way you like them, you FIRE people. Parcells did it in his Giant and Jet days, and Coughlin took over the playcalling the year they let Hufnagel loose and then found Kevin Gilbride.
He also should have named Chad the starter the day they fortified that o-line. Chad behind a running game and solid pass protection isnt gonna throw bombs, he is just gonna lead the league in comp % and QB rating. If you are a Chad guy you cant be a Mangini guy, cause Mangini wanted Kellen Clemens to win the QB competion and was part of throwing him under the bus as much as anyone else.
He was not a natural leader of men also. His demeanor, personality and lisp could not have helped. Guys on the team became the robotic, emotionless Mangini clones that could not step up when it mattered. Just like Chad, it was not gonna happen for Mangini here. For Chad all he needed was a change of scenery and to be wanted again, for Mangini he needs to pay his dues now like most of the coaches in this league and not get a job based on whose coatails he’s rode… -
ramble914 says:
I agree with everything Sackdance99 said regarding Mangini. He was too stoic on the sidelines. I’ve seen plenty on NFL films of Belichick talking to his defense and game planning and rallying his players on the sidelines during a game in the heat of battle, I never saw Mangini do that. I’ve also seen Belichick walk over to a player who just came off the field after making a bad play and tell him to forget it, I’ve never seen Mangini do that.
I can’t understand how this team never used the play-action pass, it was always an empty backfield with BF in the shotgun.
We will never land a coach like Shannahan, or Cower, Holmgren because we have a mickey mouse front office, and that starts with the owner. Forget about hiring a HC right now, we need to hire a “Head of Football Operations” someone like Ron Wolf. Miami has Parcells. Holmgren could be that person. But having Tannenbaum as the lead guy is not going to cut it. Tanny is godd t what he does…contract negotiation, and salary cap, but he is not a football person. Until Woody Johnson realizes this and changes it coaches like Cower will always be telling us “no thanks”.
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Agreed. But if we had a Head Of Football Operations like Parcells, we wouldn’t need a coach like Cowher. We could develop one like, Sparano. If we’d had that kind of football oversight already, Mangini may have succeeded.
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Pete57 says:
Mangini showed very little emotion and so did his team. Whether some of the players liked him or not doesn’t matter. He basically lost the last 5 games. (Buffalo was a miracle). He may end up being good but this team is good and needs someone else to lead it period. It was the exact right move. The fact that the FO is looking for an experienced coach to take over shows they understand what is needed for this team to take the next step.
Great for Chad. But as I and others have stated, he cannot carry a team through the playoffs. Miami will probably score less than 10 pts vs Baltimore, and next year Chad will probably be replaced by Henne at some point. Their schedule will be much tougher and they will not win 11 games. Right now all the Chad supporters can gloat, but the bottom line is Chad has not done anything extraordinary. They kept him healthy for the whole season, and he played well. If he can beat some good defenses I’ll be impressed and will admit I’m wrong, but I don’t see it happening. After Miami gets knocked out of the playoffs none of this talk will matter. Next year hopefully we have a solid QB in place and we’ll be challenging for the division title again. Hope we get Shanahan. If not then Spags, Callahan, if al else fails I guess we’ll take Marty
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nymjk says:
Great post Corey. Apparently unlike most Jets fans, I was mad when I woke up to the news of Mangini’s firing. There’s no doubt in my mind that the right move in this situation would have been to retain Mangini and let Favre go.
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Najy, where did you hear that Mangini got a standing ovation?
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largebarge says:
I really Don’t understand how there can even be a discussion on this subject!!! THE MANGIDIOT HAD TOO GO!!! It’s really quite simple, “really”!!! We were 8-3, riding high, lovin’ life, and then the “UNEXCEPTABLE” happened, we dropped 4 of 5, and finished 9-7! Now 9-7 is’nt bad, UNLESS YOU STARTED 8-3!!!! And the most frustrating part of this collapse? WE PLAYED A BUNCH OF LOSERS!!! Denver, San Fran., Seattle, and Miami!!! Not too mention the “miracle” win against Buffalo, We could have easily been, or should have been 8-8!!! As far as the theory that it will take this franchise 5 years too rebuild, I ask you, what about Atlanta? How long did it take them too go from worst too first? This is the N.F.L., and if anything has been proven, its that “YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT’LL HAPPEN NEXT!!! So with that being said, Keep your chin up people, 1 Day we’ll have a parade down the canyon of heroes, It just might not be until you’re dead!!!
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James in TN says:
Mangini had to go and the OC and DC should be gone too. Eric will never be a HC in this league again. Put it in stone.
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neauone says:
3 years 24-25 that is the record, is Mangini a good coach, yes, is he ready now, no. Do you allow someone to grow into the position and have a suffering franchise and fan base no. Belicheck did not become a great coach over night and was a losing coach, but after time became a better coach and the results are obvious. Mangini will survive, he has a great work ethic and his players respect him. Like many of us here after year one, thought, hey this guy is going to be good, last year 2007 he was killed with injuries, this year he sent 7 players to the probowl, had the future in his hand and was out coached the last 5 games of the season. To be fair the OC and the DC must be given pink slips too, they are as imaginative as white bread, enough said. The foundation is here, I like Tanny I think he is good with numbers and personel. We need a QB, KC may not be the answer, Ratliff looks promising. Should we land a good promising coach and a future qb, we may look back and see the impact Mangini made. But right now he is not our guy.
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GreenDuck says:
i agree we need to give a coach at least 5 years that is if he does a good job and is consistent and managini was far from that and his stats lie.
Mangini is not ready yet to be a head coach yet and that was the problem to begin with. if you remember, at the beginnig everyone were surprised that he didn’t bring any staff with him and started to interview new assistants.
than he goes and drafts a QB but can’t make up his mind about him.
he declared durning pre-season of the Jets being a running oriented team, brings in two RB and than makes a twist and brings Favre and makes everyone confused. this detail oriented coach gives a chance to Brett whom doesn’t have a clue and throws away CP !he let the f/o get rid of PK and the tea paid badly for that (cause of only 1 milliom $ !!!)
Mangini was always slow to react to changes on and off the field. he failed to put his mark on D and O and let his assistants go wild.
he sticks with his 3-4 system making it hard to draft (VG anyone ?) and find suitable free agents
the sad thing is that he failed to see what was clear to every Jet fan and that is why he’s out….
sadly, people in this blog had more clue than him or his staffto suggest (like some did) that he is not the only one to blame is a joke. HE WAS THE ONE IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING
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kid tarhel says:
I could not agree more that he should not have been fired. The Giants fans wanted Coughlin gone after he “lost his team.” Given one more season to prove his worth, he won the Super Bowl. Consistency is the key on the NFL. It helps to win that one or two extra games a year- and that’s al you need to help the bounces come your way. There is too much chance in the game of football, to let someone go who structured a team and a philosophy as well as Mangina did.
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50% of Bag says:
I think firing Mangini was the typical “let’s chase our tails” Jets move.
If Ernie Accorsi had caved to fan and media pressure in ’06 after the Giants blew a 21 point fourth quarter lead to rookie Vince Young and the Tennessee Titans – Tom Coughlin would have been in oblivion right now – Eli would likely be a backup in Denver or some other loser town, and the Giants would be in teh same boat as the Jets.
He stayed the course – and we see the result.
A tale of two franchises.
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Bent says:
50% of Bag is my favorite screenname of all time.
Good post too.
But Mangini lost control of this team and it looks like he lost the respect of his players. You can’t move forward with that.