Our defense over achieved in 06, because of all the shifting motion at the line. Justin Miller was great that year, but he has shown nothing since.

I disagree that the team had no personality. Offense ran a no huddle shifting offense and the defenses continued movement compensated for the pieces our defense was missing and kept good teams off guard. My complaint about this year is that all of that was lost.

In 2006, we had a good O-Line that came together as the season progressed. Chad, behind a good line is winning QB, as seen with the Dolphins. They were good enough to beat NE at NE in November. Our defense, while not spectacular was solid. Our special teams were outstanding, with Justin Miller leading the way. Once again, due to the coaching, the team had no personality. You can’t bring up the 2005 team, when talking about 2006. Each team is different.

I agree, the schedule in 2006 was easy. We lost to the better teams that we played. The schedule was even easier in 2008. The difference is that, in 2008 we had much better personnel. By all rights, we should have gone deep into the playoffs, this year. The only reason we didn’t is coaching. Period.

Mangini did not take on a good team in 2006, they were 4-12 in 2005.

When you hire a 34 yo to be your HC you have to expect some growing pains, and some learning on the job,its only natural. I think this year Mangini was put in an impossible position with having BF shoved down his throat. Did he handle things perfectly? No, far from it, but as I’ve said in other posts, I think maybe only three coaches in the entire NFL could have handled having Favre come to them under the same conditions, and they are Parcells, Holmgrem and Shannahan. Those three have the star power and universal respect to deal with Favre. Not a first time HC who is two years younger then the HoF, Living legend QB.

Woody Johnson should have realized this when he contimplated bringing in Favre and definetly when he contimplated firing him.

You are saying that Mangini, will be a good coach in this league, one day. I would like to know what he has done as a coach, to make you feel this way. Give me your list of his attributes, without talking about the teams’ record.

In 2006, Mangini took over a good team and, although we made the playoffs, we underachieved. In 2007, his personnel wasn’t as good but, his coaching made us look like absolute garbage. This past season, with a stacked line-up, he coached us out of the playoffs and into one of the worst collapeses in our history. As a result, he was fired in short order, which I believe was the right move. His defenses were soft and rarely took over a game. His offenses underachieved. His teams had no personality. Favre was ugly but, the formations and play-calling did nothing to help him and, in many instances, almost got him killed.

Bottom line — Good Luck, Cleveland.