NEWS BREAK: Rams to hire Spags
Posted on January 17th, 2009 by Corey Griffin
ESPN, PFT and Fox’s Jay Glazer are all reporting in some form or another that Steve Spagnuolo will be the next head coach of the St. Louis Rams.
What’s this mean for Jets fans? Well, as John Clayton states in ESPN’s report, there’s a strong feeling that Rex Ryan, their preferred choice over Spags, will eventually end up as Jets head coach. As has been speculated by many here, with no offer out to any of the available coaching candidates, it seems like a matter of time before Ryan is offered the Jets head gig.
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good news as a jets fan this now leaves a clear path to ryan for the jets the bad news though is what if ryan doesnt want the jets for some reason then its schottenheimer as the only remaining candidate
ryan will take the jets job….the only other options for him are kansas city and oakland ……and neither of them have contacted him for an interview……..good job jets in waiting it out…
YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow are we actually going to get the guy we wanted? I thought for sure they weren’t going to able to wait it out.
I’ll be happy with Rex Ryan as Jets HC. I prefer to have Schottenheimer as the HC. Marty Schottenheimer. I think we need an experienced HC to take this team to the superbowl sooner rather than later. With Rex Ryan, now we have to wait 2 -3 yrs before we get our shot at the Superbowl. Then again, we can get lucky and have Steelers/Ravens like run to the AFC Championship with 1st year coaches. Nah. Jets fans are never that lucky.
Dan..if your scenario plays out (though unlikely) there would have been nothing the Jets could have done about it. The ways things are playing out, the fact that the Ravens continued playing and the Giants did not, required that the Jets put all their eggs in the Ryan basket, with likely Shottenheimer/Grimm as their fall back. Spags saw the handwriting on that wall and made his decision. Good for him; I pray he does well. It’s Ryan’s job if he wants it. I just hope that with things that clear, the negotiations don’t get stupid. That would likely be the only thing that could blow this up.
I felt like Rex or Mike Shanahan were the only guys who would make firing Mangini worthwhile. Great job by Tannenbaum if he gets this done with Ryan.
Cimini is reporting that if Ryan gets the job and we lose Schotty we’ll hire the Ravens QB coach for our OC. Think about what he’s done with Flacco this year.
And Julius Peppers wants out of Carolina to play in a 3-4 defense. Anyone know if he and Jenkins got along?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11270198
watch us get chuckey
Yeah mole57 I saw that too about Peppers. We could have half the great Carolina D-line on our team!
After an 5 hour interview with the Jets FO a few days ago I think Mike T and Woody are very confident that RYAN is going to take the job…It came out the REX was willing to work with SCHOTTY and keep him on as OC so that pleased WOODY and MIKE…OAKLAND I heard is looking elsewhere and never even mention RYAN and KC who knows what directions there going in but HERM is still there at the current time…
PEPPERS would be a great FA grab this offseason…CAROLINA can put a FRANCHISE TAG on him though and it would cost the JETS at least a first round draft pick and about 17 million a year to sign him then…PEPPERS is exactly the type end we need for our 3-4 though…..IF CAROLINA doesn’t franchise him though MIke T should move quickly to get a deal done with him before some other team who is well under the cap makes him an offer he cant refuse…
Imagine this ELLIS,JENKINS,PEPPERS up front and then GHOLSTON,TRUSNIK,HARRIS,PACE in the middle, REVIS and first round DRAFTEE at CB,and RHODES and FA/DRAFTEE at safeties….REX RYAN WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THIS DEFENSE….
Ray lewis is also a fa.
Just wanted to debunk the Julius Peppers talk. As GangGreen pointed out, Peppers is going to want some serious cash and if you’ll search back to Bent’s rough cap analysis piece, the Jets have far from that amount of open space, even if Favre doesn’t return. The Jets have several players to re-sign/extend and it’s highly unlikely they’ll be able to shell out the amount of cash they need for Peppers after last offseason’s spree.
Great news….not like we thought rex would go to St Louie but this is great news for Jet fans. Its clear that Rex is the guy. Has been for weeks now…..Lets hope he gets some assistants from Baltimore to come over since his staff selection is limited. Does anybody care what happens with B-Schott??
Shotty as HC?
I’m going to throw up again.
How about that reverse in the rain to Cotch from the HOFer Brad Smith?
Brilliant.
Want a list?
The guy is an idiot.
And while we’re at it how about a list of good plays Brad Smith made in 3 years. Careful, it’s a trick question.
The answer: ZERO
Who’s to blame having him in the game plans instead an actual skill player? Oh, that’s right-it’s all Mangini’s fault, not Shotty.
Drew-
I care. I hope I never hear his name again.
im salivating at the chance of getting peppers too, but i think he wants to be an OLB instead of a DE. he wants to maximise his athletic potnetial…….how would we work this out??? probably kick thomas to the curb and let gholston be a backup?? or who knows with rex ryan(he’s officially the coach now)…..he runs a hybrid and loves to work with lineman but fact of the matter is this would be a lovely problem to have.
Rex Ryan could revitalize the Jets and maybe even get Gang Green to the playoffs in 09. But, there is an equal possibility that he will turn out to have been an average coach who’s winning reputation owes more to the players in Baltimore than his own genius. I just hope the Jets won’t be wishing they’d picked up a proven coach like Gruden or Marty S. come next January.
Brandon, please enlighten us, what EXACTLY has Gruden PROVEN????
If Schotty leaves Hue Jackson (as someone mentioned) would be great to bring along as OC. He has a fantastic reputation and there was even talk recently of teams like the Bengals bringing him in to be their OC. His players supposedly really like him and he’s got a good mind. As for DC I hope we bring in Jeff Fitzgerald the Ravens LB coach I believe he’s got a good reputation, should have a good idea of what Ryan likes to do, and has obviously done a lot of good things with the linebackers in Baltimore.
NY Post already says we are preparing to offer Ryan the job if he loses tomorrow. Go Steelers!
Apparently the Jets are about 10 million over the cap for next year. If Favre decides to retire I believe they will be 3 mil under. Get rid of Barret and Bowens that clears a bunch too, while we are at it trade Coles for a bag of footballs and the Jets will be in business.
Swizzle here the payroll for 2009 Player Salary (US$)
1 Brett Favre $12,000,000
2 Calvin Pace $12,000,000
3 Kris Jenkins $9,500,000
4 Alan Faneca $9,000,000
5 Damien Woody $6,100,000
6 Kerry Rhodes $5,527,880
7 Laveranues Coles $5,000,000
8 Thomas Jones $4,100,000
9 D’Brickashaw Ferguson $4,057,500
10 Dustin Keller $3,830,000
11 Eric Barton $3,250,000
12 Shaun Ellis $3,077,059
13 Darrelle Revis $2,670,000
14 Sione Pouha $2,465,520
15 Vernon Gholston $2,320,000
16 David Barrett $2,200,000
17 David Bowens $2,000,000
18 Bryan Thomas $1,800,000
19 Bubba Franks $1,650,000
20 Jerricho Cotchery $1,625,000
21 Brandon Moore $1,620,000
22 James Dearth $1,086,000
23 Nick Mangold $998,500
24 Tony Richardson $876,720
25 Chris Baker $783,500
26 David Harris $771,000
27 Dwight Lowery $759,500
28 J.R. Reed $755,760
29 Cody Spencer $750,000
30 Jay Feely $730,000
31 Hank Poteat $730,000
32 Jesse Chatman $651,720
33 Brad Kassell $625,000
34 Wayne Hunter $526,000
35 C.J. Mosley $526,000
36 Ahmad Carroll $520,000
37 Erik Ainge $460,000
38 Kellen Clemens $451,000
39 Drew Coleman $451,000
40 Brad Smith $451,000
41 Eric Smith $451,000
42 Leon Washington $451,000
43 Wallace Wright $451,000
44 Abram Elam $450,880
45 Jason Trusnik $376,240
46 Kareem Brown $376,000
47 David Clowney $376,000
48 Mike DeVito $376,000
49 Reggie Hodges $370,000
50 Chansi Stuckey $311,725
51 Brett Ratliff $301,000
52 Robert Turner $301,000
Guys like Barton, Richardson, Franks, etc are free agents, arent they?
I want Peppers to be a Jet. I know that we will have to pay a large price to get Peppers, and I am one-out-of-a-few Jet fans who believes Gholston will be a great player someday but with that said, I motion th at we trade Vernon Gholston and this year’s 1st Round Pick to get Julius Peppers to play along side Calvin Pace.
WOW we got some players that are definitely being over paid time to CUT some of the FAT off of this team AND LEON is only making 451,000 where the heck is the justice in that….
GANGGREEN:
The top half of your Jets payroll (except Farve) looks
way off base. Please post your source. Thanks
http://www.msn.foxsports.com and my appologies this is the 2008 payroll not 2009
this report was cut and pasted directly from the foxsports website
Oh my god.
That CAP list makes me want to throw up.
We paid Gholston 2 mil?
We paid Pace 12 mil?
Uh, this team sucks.
I think the 09 salaries are much lower
How did Sione Pouha make that much money? Does he give really good head or something?
If I am not mistaken a lot of the big FA salaires were front loaded. I think if Favre goes away ( can’t happen soon enough for me) we are in okay shape for the cap….I think Bent posted this a week a go or so..
if the jets are going to spend alot of money on a big time D-lineman id rather have haynesworth….how do you block jenkins and hayenesworth?plus ryan is going to make gholston a star
the 1 guy i want this offseason besides rex ryan is big time cb from oakland asomaguah
Gholston sucks. Not even God himself will change that.
ganggreen
i think the 2009 salaries are going to be alot less…….it looks like some of those salaries are including the signing bonuses…cause theres no way pace is going to make 12 million a year….and jenkins 9.5 million a year…..tannenbaum has a plan for the cap…thats his specialty…..we’ll just have to wait till free agency and the draft comes around to find out what our status is
is asomaguah a free agent?
if they can get him or dunta robinson either of those players would be good pick ups…then maybe they can draft a safety first round.
Lmao @ kyle
I was wondering the same thing
Swizzle – Bowens made some plays this year, why would you want to cut him?
Matter of fact why is pouha on the team?
bc u need to have a backup for jenkins who breaks down…and who i dont expect much from next yr i dont htink he can handle NT for an entire season
Bowens? C’mon you do what you have to do to get Peppers here. GANGGREEN I like that…ELLIS,JENKINS,PEPPERS and I’ll see you in Miami baby.
You guys are makin me nervous about Trusnik though, we need a LB.
DADE COUNTY if anything by contract the longer the player is on the team the more they make so if anything after we sign our draftees and free agents if we even have the cap to do it I will post the 2009 salaries I quarentee all player are making more thats how GM’s get them on the team under that years cap…for instance FAVRE made 12 mill this year i bet if he does play next year he will make 13 million plus…..AND for those who want ASO cb from the radiers he is scheduled to make 11.4 million in 2009 and 14 million in 2010 no way we can afford him with the shape our cap is in…..Unless he really wanted to come to the JETS and restructure his contract…With the greed of these players i doubt ASO would do that to come here….
NYC Parking Expert,
Bowens did make plays, but I do not think his high salary justifies his abilities, unless he was used the wrong way. I would rather have Trusnik fill in at a much cheaper price and use that free money to sign another free agent who will start. Nothing personal against him, just thought he makes too much. If Trusnik cannot cut it as a backup, theres always the draft.
OH WELL NOW I GUESS WERE GOING FOR REX NOW HEY GUYS WASNT HIS DAD ONE OF THE COACHES ON THE JETS TEAM THAT WON SUPER BOWL 3 MAYBE HE CAN SPRINKLE A LITTLE MORE OF THAT MAGIC DUST
Gholston sucks? He hasn’t even played…..Give the guy some time before u bash him.
Rex Ryan is most likely taking over as HC. I hope this works out for the D – I’m thinkin it prob will.
It wouldn’t be Ellis, Jenkins, and Peppers – Peppers would play the OLB spot in a 3-4 D like Suggs, Harrison. Thats the pass-rushing position in a 3-4
The only good thing about this coaching delay is it puts off the PSL extortion letters from Woody. With the economy in the tank, a questionable quarterback situation, December implosion in ‘08 and no coach — PSL prices must be lowered. Letters were supposed to be out in December. Then January. Let’s hope there is some benefit to fans for the organization’s dysfunctionality.
Re: the cap.
Where swizzle says they are only about $10m over, this is pretty accurate, but somewhat oversimplified. Based on players currently under contract, they are actually $25m over the current cap, so if you take into account the amount by which the cap will rise, $10m is probably there or thereabouts. But:
They only have 40 players under contract, so will need to sign another 11 (only the top 51 cap numbers and dead money counts) before the final cap number is established.
About $4m of the cap will be required to sign the rookies.
They have a raft of free agents to either re-sign or replace.
So, it’s not as simple as “If Favre leaves, we can start spending right away”, but they are in OK shape as regards not having to release a bunch of key guys just to get under. A few more releases/restructures may free up enough cash to fill some holes via FA or trade, although if they go for a big name, they’ll not be able to afford to do much else. Finally, they are worse off than most other teams, so although they are OK in terms of being under the cap, if prices escalate in a bidding war, they may be forced to go to a cheaper option.
The cap situation is closer to 2005 (releases, plus cheap replacements) than 2007 (big spending spree), but the difference this time is that they have several different approaches they could take (the new coach can decide between cutting ties with some long tenured veterans and rebuilding with younger talent or retaining most of the current team and building on it over the next few years. Admittedly, the possibility of an uncapped 2010 muddies the waters a lot.
Come on seriously, before the draft and you can look it up, I said we needed to get Mayo. Gholston was the rage, and how did that turn out? He came from the LITTLE 10, and Mayo come from the SEC which is hands down the best conference in College football. He was a big fish in a little pond. I hope that is part of why Mangini is gone is that he had a hand in drafting this bust, not just the collapse of our team at the end of the season. A coach is supposed to be able to evaluate talent along with the GM to make good team decisions personnelwise.
Ryan gives us the best shot as a coach and evaluator of talent when it comes to FA’s or Draft Choices. I feel bad for Cleveland fans because they will get nothing but emotionless mediocre play from a ballboy turned HC led team. If Favre comes back we will make due, if he doesn’t then we find a qb from within our ranks.
The future is bright.
GO JETS!!!!!
For all you cap guru’s out there who want Peppers, you have to consider who you cut, and the dead cap money involved with that player if cut. It is not that easy, take a look at this site. It will explain the whole cap situation for the New York Jets. So if you think you can cut Kenyon Coleman and save all that money against the cap, look again. Coleman has only a $900,000 cap savings the rest is all DEAD MONEY which counts against the cap.
http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary09.html
looks like weiss will get fired at notre dame and the jets will hire him as head coach with donnie henderson as d-cordinater.good move for jets!
The 2008 was $116 million, the 2009 cap will be 1 $123 million, thats an extra $7 million the Jets (and all teams) will have to play with not counting any players that come off the books, like Favre. Our first priority should be to re-sign our own good players.
It looks like Ryan is the man and I’m psyched about it. I like his defense’s blitz philosophy and like all Jets fans, I love the Buddy Ryan bloodline. I thought the story about Buddy teaching both sons the 46 defense when they wanted to be coaches was just awesome…like Yoda with Luke Skywalker. I haven’t been excited about the Jets defense since old no. 99 quit midway through the 1988 season.
As for the Peppers talk. That’s a pipe dream, plus if the Jets had the cap money, I’d rather have Suggs. He knows Ryan’s defense and he’s younger (and, IMO, may be better…he averages fewer sacks, but more tackles and forced fumbles). I still hope Bart Scott can be signed to replace Barton (although that might mean Harris shifts to the strong side ILB position, which he might be better suited for anyhow). I think Scott might be relatively cheap because he’s not in a glamour position and the Ravens have to re-sign Suggs and Lewis.
The Jets should go with Scott to replace Barton, that would solidify the LB corps, if he comes on the cheap. Does anyone know if that Safety for Balt., Leohnard is under contract for next year?
Listen, we need to get rid of Sione Pouha, Eric Barton, Brett Favre, Coles, David Barrett, Bryan Thomas, and Chris Baker.
How did JR Reed make almost one million? He didn’t even see the field!
Cut Eric Smith, Drew Coleman, and Jessie Chatman.
Maybe after all this, we will have some money to sign actual football players like Julius Peppers or Anquan Boldin. Instead, we continue to waste money on posers and busts? This front office is a joke, and I still can’t believe how much money Gholston & Pouha made. I want to puke in Tannenbaum’s face over and over again.
GOOD post JAY M and from the looks of the 2009 payroll we are about 2 million under the projected 132 milliion we can spend before cuts,signing FA,and the draft…I think its going to be a quite year for the Jets in the FA market unless brett does not come back,current players restructure,or we trade players and get good value for them…
I’m hopeful (a curse word for Jet fans) about Ryan providing the one thing the Jets have sorely lacked for decades: an identity.
I think Mangini’s a smart guy with solid philosophical ideas but a cool, dispassionate, cerebral approach just isn’t going to do it for an organization with a long-standing, low self-esteem complex. The Jets need someone who can give them a strong persona to overcome the default to lethargic self-doubt.
An attacking, hell-bent defense could easily define an attitude for the whole team.
Forget about signing any major free agents. Even without Favre, Barrertt, Barton and Franks, there will be barely enough cap space to re-sign Leon and pay the dreftees.
Charlie Weis is not getting fired at least fnot until after the 2009 season. If he doesn’t produce with all the great recruiting classes in 2009, he could get fired. But he is not available nor do I want him for the JETS. His recruiting skills make him well suited for the college ranks. Let’s see if he makes it in 2009.
It does say something about the Bellicheat era and all the failures of his proteges (Crennl and Mangini specifically). Maybe cheating made them look much better than they were.
Having said the above, I am looking forward to the Rex Ryan era. The Ravens with great “D” have proven that minimal offense can win with great Defense. So if Brett doesn’t come back, I am optimistic the JETS can win with Clemens or Ratliff.
someone up on this list said he wanted Marty Schottenheimer! what is wrong with you? we don’t have enough s**t to deal with? Marty Schottenheimer and Norve Turner are nice guys who will NEVER win a SB. we know all about the playoffs records and to tell you the truth i don’t give a f… because we need to get into the SB not just the playoffs!!!!!! its been long enough. we need someone to come in and kick some a**. nice guys finish last and it shows in our Jets history. Ryan sounds good to me.
one more thing, why is LC getting paid more than Cotchery? he is NOT a better player and i would like to trade him for sure. we need a big time WR to compliment Cotch.LC needs a skirt for the amount of complaining and crying he does.