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		<title>By: seanmac31</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/06/quarterback-sneak-who-will-lead/comment-page-1/#comment-128642</link>
		<dc:creator>seanmac31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah....

I wouldn&#039;t touch Josh Freeman with a ten foot pole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t touch Josh Freeman with a ten foot pole.</p>
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		<title>By: Bent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All we need now is for seanmac to call Joshy Ice a terrible pro prospect and then we can relive last year&#039;s debate to end all debates!

PS - I agreed with pretty much all of seanmac&#039;s post, although for non-football and non-financial reasons (mainly the media circus), I am less inclined to give the idea of Favre returning as much of an endorsement (although it would not surprise me at all if he outperforms Clemens, Ratliff, Ainge, Cassel, Sanchez, Freeman and anyone else named in this post next year for another team).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All we need now is for seanmac to call Joshy Ice a terrible pro prospect and then we can relive last year&#8217;s debate to end all debates!</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I agreed with pretty much all of seanmac&#8217;s post, although for non-football and non-financial reasons (mainly the media circus), I am less inclined to give the idea of Favre returning as much of an endorsement (although it would not surprise me at all if he outperforms Clemens, Ratliff, Ainge, Cassel, Sanchez, Freeman and anyone else named in this post next year for another team).</p>
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		<title>By: seanmac31</title>
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		<dc:creator>seanmac31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, not necessarily.  We may be absolutely awful with those three.  There just aren&#039;t any notably better options out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not necessarily.  We may be absolutely awful with those three.  There just aren&#8217;t any notably better options out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvlis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvlis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seanmac,  Like I said -- We will be just fine with Clemens, Ratliff, and Ainge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seanmac,  Like I said &#8212; We will be just fine with Clemens, Ratliff, and Ainge.</p>
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		<title>By: seanmac31</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/06/quarterback-sneak-who-will-lead/comment-page-1/#comment-128602</link>
		<dc:creator>seanmac31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the best option for 2009 would be for Favre to come back, but I don&#039;t expect it to happen and in any event, it wouldn&#039;t do anything to help the long-term development of the franchise.  So you&#039;re looking at one of three options- you can draft a quarterback, you can make a major bid to get one through trade or free agency, or you can bring in a veteran to compete with the players on the roster.

The draft is very, very weak.  Mark Sanchez is a nice looking player, but his number of college starts is a huge red flag.  The second tier group of last year&#039;s prospects- Brian Brohm, Chad Henne, Joe Flacco- are all arguably more attractive than Matthew Stafford, who could go #1 overall.  It&#039;s just not a good group.  Throw in the fact that drafting a quarterback this year means that you can&#039;t draft one next year in what looks to be a superior QB crop and it just doesn&#039;t seem like a great idea.

The big name on the market is Matt Cassel.  There are two things that make him an unattractive and/or an unlikely option.  The first thing is that he&#039;s a Patriot, and New England would undoubtedly extract a bigger package from us than from a non-divisional team (in fact, should the Pats be willing to trade Cassel to us, it should give us serious pause as to whether or not we actually want him).  The second thing is that he wasn&#039;t very good this year.  He was 17th in DYAR and 20th in DVOA while playing with the best offensive unit in football.  Now, Cassel was better than Ben Roethlisberger, who is currently sporting two rings, and he was better than Brett Favre, but it&#039;s not like he had the kind of performance that convinces you he&#039;s not a product of the system and the surrounding talent.  Moreover, giving up first and third round picks to an opponent who is able to take sixth and seventh round picks and turn them into franchise level quarterbacks just puts you further and further in the hole.  What would be nice is if the Jets could develop their own quarterback prospects instead of paying top dollar for someone else&#039;s. 

That leads to the third option- seeing what Ratliff and Clemens and Ainge have.  It&#039;s certainly the cheapest thing to do, which is no small consideration on a team as cap-strapped as we are.  It also gives us flexibility come free agency and the draft in 2010.  You would still bring in a veteran to compete (by far the most attractive option is Byron Leftwich), but you rely on your own scouting decisions instead of chasing other people&#039;s players around.

The fourth option, which folds into the third one, is to try to make a lower-profile trade to bring in someone to compete with Ratliff and Clemens.  Obvious targets would be recently drafted players who are sitting behind established veterans, or guys who were put onto the bench by recent draft picks.  If the Cardinals and Eagles give new deals to Kurt Warner and Donovan McNabb, for instance, you might want to see what it would take to pry away Matt Leinart or Kevin Kolb.  Derek Anderson figures to be available in Cleveland, but then again, Mangini may feel differently about Brady Quinn than Crennel and Savage did, so that&#039;s unclear.  You would also be looking at players like Alex Smith and Sage Rosenfelds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best option for 2009 would be for Favre to come back, but I don&#8217;t expect it to happen and in any event, it wouldn&#8217;t do anything to help the long-term development of the franchise.  So you&#8217;re looking at one of three options- you can draft a quarterback, you can make a major bid to get one through trade or free agency, or you can bring in a veteran to compete with the players on the roster.</p>
<p>The draft is very, very weak.  Mark Sanchez is a nice looking player, but his number of college starts is a huge red flag.  The second tier group of last year&#8217;s prospects- Brian Brohm, Chad Henne, Joe Flacco- are all arguably more attractive than Matthew Stafford, who could go #1 overall.  It&#8217;s just not a good group.  Throw in the fact that drafting a quarterback this year means that you can&#8217;t draft one next year in what looks to be a superior QB crop and it just doesn&#8217;t seem like a great idea.</p>
<p>The big name on the market is Matt Cassel.  There are two things that make him an unattractive and/or an unlikely option.  The first thing is that he&#8217;s a Patriot, and New England would undoubtedly extract a bigger package from us than from a non-divisional team (in fact, should the Pats be willing to trade Cassel to us, it should give us serious pause as to whether or not we actually want him).  The second thing is that he wasn&#8217;t very good this year.  He was 17th in DYAR and 20th in DVOA while playing with the best offensive unit in football.  Now, Cassel was better than Ben Roethlisberger, who is currently sporting two rings, and he was better than Brett Favre, but it&#8217;s not like he had the kind of performance that convinces you he&#8217;s not a product of the system and the surrounding talent.  Moreover, giving up first and third round picks to an opponent who is able to take sixth and seventh round picks and turn them into franchise level quarterbacks just puts you further and further in the hole.  What would be nice is if the Jets could develop their own quarterback prospects instead of paying top dollar for someone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>That leads to the third option- seeing what Ratliff and Clemens and Ainge have.  It&#8217;s certainly the cheapest thing to do, which is no small consideration on a team as cap-strapped as we are.  It also gives us flexibility come free agency and the draft in 2010.  You would still bring in a veteran to compete (by far the most attractive option is Byron Leftwich), but you rely on your own scouting decisions instead of chasing other people&#8217;s players around.</p>
<p>The fourth option, which folds into the third one, is to try to make a lower-profile trade to bring in someone to compete with Ratliff and Clemens.  Obvious targets would be recently drafted players who are sitting behind established veterans, or guys who were put onto the bench by recent draft picks.  If the Cardinals and Eagles give new deals to Kurt Warner and Donovan McNabb, for instance, you might want to see what it would take to pry away Matt Leinart or Kevin Kolb.  Derek Anderson figures to be available in Cleveland, but then again, Mangini may feel differently about Brady Quinn than Crennel and Savage did, so that&#8217;s unclear.  You would also be looking at players like Alex Smith and Sage Rosenfelds.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rather see Woody Johnson play  QB than take Vince Young.</description>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>think about this people ratliff is the natural choice favre retires so we go with baby brett the &quot;other&quot; brett and he wears number 5!!! favre wears 4 its a natural progression its fate!!just kidding plus kellen reminds me of the 07 season we stunk it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>think about this people ratliff is the natural choice favre retires so we go with baby brett the &#8220;other&#8221; brett and he wears number 5!!! favre wears 4 its a natural progression its fate!!just kidding plus kellen reminds me of the 07 season we stunk it up</p>
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		<title>By: Harvlis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvlis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Favre lovers are nuts.  The guy is 40 years old, had 22 Ints with a decent offensive line and plenty of weapons.  How many throws did he make when nobody was open?  I pray he retires.  Ball control is where it&#039;s at.  

New York fans are spoiled.  They are used to the Mets and the Yanks buying up all the leagues great players.  You don&#039;t need superstars at every postion to win.  Between Clemens, Ratliff, and Ainge -- we will be fine.  Clemens will be much better, having had some regular season experience, and I am excited to see if Ratliff can put up a repeat performance of last year&#039;s pre-season.  If Ratliff shows that last year wasn&#039;t a fluke -- he can not only do the job but, he might be exciting, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Favre lovers are nuts.  The guy is 40 years old, had 22 Ints with a decent offensive line and plenty of weapons.  How many throws did he make when nobody was open?  I pray he retires.  Ball control is where it&#8217;s at.  </p>
<p>New York fans are spoiled.  They are used to the Mets and the Yanks buying up all the leagues great players.  You don&#8217;t need superstars at every postion to win.  Between Clemens, Ratliff, and Ainge &#8212; we will be fine.  Clemens will be much better, having had some regular season experience, and I am excited to see if Ratliff can put up a repeat performance of last year&#8217;s pre-season.  If Ratliff shows that last year wasn&#8217;t a fluke &#8212; he can not only do the job but, he might be exciting, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: j0e</title>
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		<dc:creator>j0e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vince Young!</description>
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		<title>By: GANGGREEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GANGGREEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt Warner and Kerry Collins are availible....Neither the Cardinals or the TiTans have extended their contracts yet....I still say that Clemens and Ratliff should get their opportunities 1st but these two veterans make the most sense due to the fact that they were both on playoff contenders rosters last year...I think Ratliff is the real deal even though he only played the preseason but he has the size and arm strength we need at quarter back if no other options are availible....Clemens has the most time and knowledge of the two but has made horrible reads and decisions with the football when he has had his chances...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt Warner and Kerry Collins are availible&#8230;.Neither the Cardinals or the TiTans have extended their contracts yet&#8230;.I still say that Clemens and Ratliff should get their opportunities 1st but these two veterans make the most sense due to the fact that they were both on playoff contenders rosters last year&#8230;I think Ratliff is the real deal even though he only played the preseason but he has the size and arm strength we need at quarter back if no other options are availible&#8230;.Clemens has the most time and knowledge of the two but has made horrible reads and decisions with the football when he has had his chances&#8230;</p>
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