Comments on: The Effect of the Uncapped Year? http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dean Barbella http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132391 Dean Barbella Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:55:21 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132391 Free Agent Shopping List: 1. Bart Scott, ILB, Ravens (Yes) would be awesome, because he's in his prime, knows Rex's defense and fills a big hole heading into the draft. 2. Ray Lewis, ILB, Ravens (No) is too old. I don't want to sunset our saeson by paying for a fighthard, blowhard HOF-player in his twilight years. We've already got cheerleaders! 3. Mike Nugent, K, Jets (Yes) or Jay Feely 4. Jim Leonhard, S, Ravens (Yes) he will fill a need and give us more flexibility heading into draft plus another Rex Ex. Still, I would love to get SS Patrick Chung (Oregon) in the draft. 5. Tony Richardson, FB, (Hell Yeah!) We need him and thankfully, we are close to a new deal. Assuming we sign Ravens: Scott & Leonhard and Jets: Richardson & Feely, our remaining needs can be solved in draft: 1st Round with CB's: DJ Moore or Vontae Davis Top 2nd Round: SS Patrick Chung Bottom 2nd Round: NG Ron Brace (Trade Up from 3rd). Free Agent Shopping List:

1. Bart Scott, ILB, Ravens (Yes) would be awesome, because he’s in his prime, knows Rex’s defense and fills a big hole heading into the draft.

2. Ray Lewis, ILB, Ravens (No) is too old. I don’t want to sunset our saeson by paying for a fighthard, blowhard HOF-player in his twilight years. We’ve already got cheerleaders!

3. Mike Nugent, K, Jets (Yes) or Jay Feely

4. Jim Leonhard, S, Ravens (Yes) he will fill a need and give us more flexibility heading into draft plus another Rex Ex. Still, I would love to get SS Patrick Chung (Oregon) in the draft.

5. Tony Richardson, FB, (Hell Yeah!) We need him and thankfully, we are close to a new deal.

Assuming we sign Ravens: Scott & Leonhard and Jets: Richardson & Feely, our remaining needs can be solved in draft:

1st Round with CB’s: DJ Moore or Vontae Davis

Top 2nd Round: SS Patrick Chung

Bottom 2nd Round: NG Ron Brace (Trade Up from 3rd).

]]> By: DAVID http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132358 DAVID Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:32:02 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132358 breaking news!!!!! COLES RELEASEd!!!!!!!!!! they jus said it on NFL LIVE breaking news!!!!! COLES RELEASEd!!!!!!!!!! they jus said it on NFL LIVE

]]> By: B http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132355 B Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:17:37 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132355 There will be a cap. No doubt. If I were to guess I would say the 2011 Collective Bargaining agreement will include a rookie pay scale and guaranteed contracts (to at least some extent). The NFL CBA is unique in that the year before a new CBA is agreed on, is uncapped. This has served as a "double poison" that has prevented the league and the player's association from wanting to bargain. It has worked until now with this opt out. Should be interesting. There will be a cap. No doubt. If I were to guess I would say the 2011 Collective Bargaining agreement will include a rookie pay scale and guaranteed contracts (to at least some extent). The NFL CBA is unique in that the year before a new CBA is agreed on, is uncapped. This has served as a “double poison” that has prevented the league and the player’s association from wanting to bargain. It has worked until now with this opt out. Should be interesting.

]]> By: J http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132338 J Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:26:24 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132338 No Cap = Death, see MLB, football will be history as we know it. No Cap = Death, see MLB, football will be history as we know it.

]]> By: B http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132321 B Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:36:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132321 My bad on the numbers. Still worth noting. Also, maybe Lewis will take a 1 year deal knowing he can make a big chunk of change in 2010. Should be interesting to see how 2010 and 2011 play out. They will definitely go back to a cap but I think they may be able to get guaranteed contracts in the new Collective Bargaining Agreement. The big losers in the new CBA will be the incoming rookies. They are probably going to implement a pay scale for rookies (because the "future rookies" aren't in the union yet they are most likely get screwed. The current players are NOT happy about the kind of money that the Jake Long's of the world are getting eating up cap space). My bad on the numbers. Still worth noting. Also, maybe Lewis will take a 1 year deal knowing he can make a big chunk of change in 2010. Should be interesting to see how 2010 and 2011 play out.

They will definitely go back to a cap but I think they may be able to get guaranteed contracts in the new Collective Bargaining Agreement. The big losers in the new CBA will be the incoming rookies. They are probably going to implement a pay scale for rookies (because the “future rookies” aren’t in the union yet they are most likely get screwed. The current players are NOT happy about the kind of money that the Jake Long’s of the world are getting eating up cap space).

]]> By: D$ http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132319 D$ Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:31:50 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132319 Players have made it clear that if they hit an uncapped year, they’re going back to a cap. I think you mean they're NOT going back to a cap. It's in the best interest that they keep a cap though, otherwise, it's probably the end of small markets competing in the NFL. In baseball, you can build through the draft and collecting prospects, but in the NFL, buying players will be much more effective since there's no minor league system to keep and groom prospects. Players have made it clear that if they hit an uncapped year, they’re going back to a cap.

I think you mean they’re NOT going back to a cap. It’s in the best interest that they keep a cap though, otherwise, it’s probably the end of small markets competing in the NFL. In baseball, you can build through the draft and collecting prospects, but in the NFL, buying players will be much more effective since there’s no minor league system to keep and groom prospects.

]]> By: mole57 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132316 mole57 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:28:11 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132316 B, 6 million to 9 million is a 50% increase in salary. 6 million to 7.8 million is a 30% increase. B,
6 million to 9 million is a 50% increase in salary.
6 million to 7.8 million is a 30% increase.

]]> By: B http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132314 B Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:25:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132314 I would say offering Ray Lewis $6 million this year and (+%30) $9 million in 2010 is still worth noting considering cap space. Lewis would then know he won't be released in 2010 because there is little incentive for a team to release a player when they don't have to worry about the cap for that season. This could in turn allow Lewis to accept less money than he typically would because the 2010 money would be essentially guaranteed. I would say offering Ray Lewis $6 million this year and (+%30) $9 million in 2010 is still worth noting considering cap space. Lewis would then know he won’t be released in 2010 because there is little incentive for a team to release a player when they don’t have to worry about the cap for that season. This could in turn allow Lewis to accept less money than he typically would because the 2010 money would be essentially guaranteed.

]]> By: mole57 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132290 mole57 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:39:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132290 Jason, Disregard my last post. I missed the LTBEs as being part of that. Jason,
Disregard my last post. I missed the LTBEs as being part of that.

]]> By: mole57 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132288 mole57 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:49 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/25/the-effect-of-the-uncapped-year/#comment-132288 Jason, That can be easily hidden with incentives that are practically guaranteed he'll reach. Jason,
That can be easily hidden with incentives that are practically guaranteed he’ll reach.

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