Comments on: ABMD: With the 17th Pick … http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:30:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: LAJetsFan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140637 LAJetsFan Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:24:00 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140637 What a coincidence. On the same day "we" pick Tyson Jackson in a mock draft, I read all about how unimpressive he's been this offseason, with subpar performances at both the combine and the Pro Day. Notably, word is he's going to fall into the second round, and rightfully so. Taking that into account, and the fact that I'd like to Jets to go offense in the first round, it sounds like this is probably what they'll actually do. And for the umpteenth draft I'll be disappointed in our first round selection. What a coincidence. On the same day “we” pick Tyson Jackson in a mock draft, I read all about how unimpressive he’s been this offseason, with subpar performances at both the combine and the Pro Day. Notably, word is he’s going to fall into the second round, and rightfully so.

Taking that into account, and the fact that I’d like to Jets to go offense in the first round, it sounds like this is probably what they’ll actually do. And for the umpteenth draft I’ll be disappointed in our first round selection.

]]> By: Lance Mehl http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140567 Lance Mehl Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:59:37 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140567 A safe pick .. solid .. not a great one .. like the idea of this pick going to Denver for Cutler though .. A safe pick .. solid .. not a great one ..

like the idea of this pick going to Denver for Cutler though ..

]]> By: KyleNumbers http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140513 KyleNumbers Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:46:04 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140513 Great pick, exactly how I would have went. Great pick, exactly how I would have went.

]]> By: Kirk http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140454 Kirk Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:30:44 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140454 Brian: The cap charge for Cassel is probably much higher than Cutler and the Pats needed to dump Vrabel - making a direct comparison based solely on the Pats/Chiefs trade not as strong. Brian: The cap charge for Cassel is probably much higher than Cutler and the Pats needed to dump Vrabel – making a direct comparison based solely on the Pats/Chiefs trade not as strong.

]]> By: Brian311 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140395 Brian311 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:38:59 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140395 i dont particularly want cutler - but as a reference point, the pats traded cassel and vrabel for a 2nd rounder. we should not trade #17 for cutler - who may be a better player and has a longer track record - but he is clearly a headcase. who knows if he could cut it in NY/NJ? i dont particularly want cutler – but as a reference point, the pats traded cassel and vrabel for a 2nd rounder. we should not trade #17 for cutler – who may be a better player and has a longer track record – but he is clearly a headcase. who knows if he could cut it in NY/NJ?

]]> By: nyr2k2 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140337 nyr2k2 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:45:39 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140337 I'd be livid if we picked a DE at 17. QB or WR all the way. I have a feeling, though, that I'll be seriously disappointed come draft day. I’d be livid if we picked a DE at 17. QB or WR all the way.

I have a feeling, though, that I’ll be seriously disappointed come draft day.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140333 Bent Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:57 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140333 Editor - I think Bassett is using the royal "we"...I know I had no input into the selection (although I think he knows that if he'd asked me, I would have said I don't know). Still, the 3rd running back touched the ball seven times last year (for 13 yards). Are you sure you want to use a 3rd round pick on someone that might have next to no effect on the season if there are no injuries again (especially with Leon's increased role)? Might be a good pick for next year, but maybe the RB class will be stronger next year too. Not ruling it out - just playing devil's advocate. "Mr. Clemens simply had the misfortune of having an injury in his senior year which reduced his draft position." I dispute this. He was never discussed as a potential first rounder before getting hurt and was actually viewed as a mid-rounder before the experts interrogated film in March/April and his stock began to rise. If anything, maybe the injury helped him, by limiting his total number of bad mistakes for the year and preventing the end-of-season downturn often suffered by college QB's as teams get more film on their offense during the season (eg Matt Ryan). Editor – I think Bassett is using the royal “we”…I know I had no input into the selection (although I think he knows that if he’d asked me, I would have said I don’t know).

Still, the 3rd running back touched the ball seven times last year (for 13 yards). Are you sure you want to use a 3rd round pick on someone that might have next to no effect on the season if there are no injuries again (especially with Leon’s increased role)? Might be a good pick for next year, but maybe the RB class will be stronger next year too. Not ruling it out – just playing devil’s advocate.

“Mr. Clemens simply had the misfortune of having an injury in his senior year which reduced his draft position.”

I dispute this. He was never discussed as a potential first rounder before getting hurt and was actually viewed as a mid-rounder before the experts interrogated film in March/April and his stock began to rise.

If anything, maybe the injury helped him, by limiting his total number of bad mistakes for the year and preventing the end-of-season downturn often suffered by college QB’s as teams get more film on their offense during the season (eg Matt Ryan).

]]> By: starz31 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140331 starz31 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:31:50 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140331 We should certainly seriously consider a trade for Cutler...the problem is, we won't be alone in that. There are other teams, with better draft picks that need QBs. It would have to be a creative trade and most likely whoever gets him, will be overpaying. That said...the kid might be worth it. We should certainly seriously consider a trade for Cutler…the problem is, we won’t be alone in that. There are other teams, with better draft picks that need QBs. It would have to be a creative trade and most likely whoever gets him, will be overpaying. That said…the kid might be worth it.

]]> By: DSmizzle http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140330 DSmizzle Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:31:46 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140330 Gregory Rasputin: I think it is a little optimistic to say that the only way Clemens does not pan out as a legitimate NFL starter is if Ratliff is even better! Gregory Rasputin:

I think it is a little optimistic to say that the only way Clemens does not pan out as a legitimate NFL starter is if Ratliff is even better!

]]> By: Gregory Rasputin http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/03/15/abmd-with-the-17th-pick/#comment-140329 Gregory Rasputin Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:25:10 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=10605#comment-140329 I don't find any quarterback in the draft this year tempting. I appreciate that at this moment Kellen Clemens has no value in thee eyes of other franchises or most fans. But I suspect that by the middle of the season that this evaluation will have changed ...substantially. AND-if it hasn't...that's because Mr.Ratliff has performed even better. I do not think that Mr.'s Sanchez or Freeman are any more credentialed than Mr. Clemens was at their age. Mr. Clemens simply had the misfortune of having an injury in his senior year which reduced his draft position. Also I would like to mention that Mr. Clemens as a wide-eyed rookie did as well or slightly better as the experienced and very savvy Mr.Pennington when he was asked to play behind Mr. Adrian Clarke at left guard. Why say this? We don't need to waste picks on stockpiling quarterbacks. Mr.Clemens is a least the equal of ability to any Quarterback in the draft this year and has had many years time to have ripened on the vine in this system watching to very different and quite successful Quarterbacks play in front of him. I'm not predicting Mr.Clemens to go to the Probowl this year.I simply think that he will win the job and do well... Which is why we don't need more QBs! I don’t find any quarterback in the draft this year tempting.

I appreciate that at this moment Kellen Clemens has no value in thee eyes of other franchises or most fans.

But I suspect that by the middle of the season that this evaluation will have changed …substantially.

AND-if it hasn’t…that’s because Mr.Ratliff has performed even better.

I do not think that Mr.’s Sanchez or Freeman are any more credentialed than Mr. Clemens was at their age.

Mr. Clemens simply had the misfortune of having an injury in his senior year which reduced his draft position.

Also I would like to mention that Mr. Clemens as a wide-eyed rookie did as well or slightly better as the experienced and very savvy Mr.Pennington when he was asked to play behind Mr. Adrian Clarke at left guard.

Why say this? We don’t need to waste picks on stockpiling quarterbacks. Mr.Clemens is a least the equal of ability to any Quarterback in the draft this year and has had many years time to have ripened on the vine in this system watching to very different and quite successful Quarterbacks play in front of him.

I’m not predicting Mr.Clemens to go to the Probowl this year.I simply think that he will win the job and do well…

Which is why we don’t need more QBs!

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