Buzz: Jets Interested in Matt Jones?
Newsday FOBs (friends of the blog) Bob Glauber and Erik Boland are reporting that the Jets might have interest in former first round draft choice and recently released (because of additional run-ins with the law) WR Matt Jones.
Former Jaguars receiver Matt Jones, who was released earlier this week after spending nearly a week in prison for a probation violation, could draw interest from the Jets and Cowboys, league sources have indicated.
What has to happen before any team signs Jones is for the NFL to decide whether he faces additional sanctions for his probation violation. Jones was suspended three games last year after being arrested in a cocaine possession incident.
First thing, no mustaches like that … please. Jones is a physical freak, 6 feet 6 inches tall, 242 pounds, 4.4 timed 40 yard dash and a 39.5 inch vert. During his career he’s averaged 13.0 YPC.
The bottom line with Jones is that he’s an amazing physical talent, but there’s the potential he’s still chasing the dragon. I think we’ve all made our fair share of mistakes, and everyone’s worth a second chance. If he’s available, he’s worth a look and could be the Plaxico Burress style receiver for this offense that it could definitely use. I coveted him in the 2005 Draft and followed him since. He’s been a productive player, but never lived up to the buzz that accompanied the QB convert during the 2005 Draft.
117 Responses to Buzz: Jets Interested in Matt Jones?
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JesusRevis says:
If you want cocaine you can get it anywhere, it makes no difference where he plays. If he wants to sniff coke, he is going to do it, if hes trying to change, then he wont. Playing in NY makes no difference.
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The D says:
Get this guy. A one year deal would be a nice place to start.
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With a name like Jesus, I am confident you have no idea about cocaine or the effects of addication it has on a person. Cocaine is the drug that never sleeps, NYC is the city that never sleeps. Do that math
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its still worth a shot, you gotta figure Jones is going to get a modest contract wit a lot of out clauses to protect whatever team signs him.
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sec108 says:
He’s got to support that habit somehow, no better way than to redeem himself with a big year or two for the jets and then get a fat new contract :).
Seriously though, he may not get another chance after this so if he realizes that it might just pay off, trusting Tanny does a low risk deal there is potential for high reward here, so I would do it under those circumstances
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I’ll pass on Matt Jones…yes he is a great physical specimen but he is an under acheiver who lacks motivation.
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Sig says:
lets do it! he’s a freak
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Hooligan, im not here to discuss my familiarity with cocaine, but as my man Rick James says “Cocaine is a hell-of-a drug”. If Jones was in Jacksonville and he wanted coke he could get it, if hes in NY and wants coke he will get it there too. It all comes down to his decision, not his location.
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True True, but the bars in jacksonville close at 2 am, the bars in NY don’t close…they even have after hour clubs that open at 5 am and go til about 2 pm.
if hes clean, then hes clean…but if there is any little urge, he’s f**Ked
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dave b says:
These comments about drugs-NYC are just ridiculous. If you’re a wealthy person, there is no dearth of cocaine anywhere in America. So I don’t think that should be the focus of criticism.
In terms of personality issues, I’m more concerned with events like showing up to a court ordered hearing and having alcohol traces in the BAC test, violating your terms. It means that you don’t take this stuff seriously.
Also, I agree with Basset’s remarks about his productivity. He’s never really done much, and it’s not like he was in a system where he was upstaged by some other widereceiver…I beleive he’s been paired with the likes of Ernest Wilfolk and such. I’ve always had him on the bench in my fantasy leagues, thinking that sooner or later his number would catch up with his talent.
In the end, we’ve already got a physical freak who isn’t living up to expectations (See: Vernon Gohlston), and Matt Jones has frankly never done anything that makes him attractive for this franchise. Coupled with his off-the-field problems, this just seems like a bad bet.
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p.s. I think his mustache would be his most significant contribution to the team.
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ramble914 says:
Swizzle,
That was funny “keeping his nose clean”! lol
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mole57 says:
This is a video of Matt Jones being sentenced in Drug Court last week. You can debate the body language all you want.
http://www.kfsm.com/kfsm-news-nwa-matt-jones-drugs-breaking,0,2151566.story
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Wouldn’t that mustache get in the way of snorting?
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JohnnyCornSqueezins says:
He looks like a Porn Star from the ’70′s.
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jim says:
No matt jones….no jay cutler….
good guys we like and can root for..remember?
besides…we can find a better reciever in the draft….and win with clemens or ratliff….no drama…no drug abuse…
for chrissakes…come on
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ken says:
I’m for this one. we need a tall WR and this one sounds good. go for it.
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Igs says:
Go get ‘em Captain Whitney! lol. I’m all for it. The guy has great radius and is just about to hit his stride as a WR.
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The Dude says:
I’d be willing to make a wager that Matt Jones is but one of many NFL players who uses or has used cocaine. The difference with Jones? He got caught. I’d take the low-risk, high-reward flyer, so long as it appears he will try to act like a good citizen.
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So how realistic is this? Any moves being made yet?
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jr says:
abilty and character aside…that porn stash should 100% be a jet
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If we can get him at a nice value i would take a chance but there is a pretty good chance he is going to screw up…. Look at that picture of him. He just looks like a jackass.
BUT……if he catches TD’s and makes plays I will go and buy the blow for him.
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We have to wait and see what the NFL is going to do. He might get suspended.
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k.c. says:
he WOULD be a nice addition. And we could probably get him cheap.
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vinnywasthebest says:
I love how everyone is ASSUMING that this guy still is doing blow and hanging at creepy crackhouses and killing babies and …….
He HAD an incident where he got CAUGHT doing a little coke. So did our last prez. Give it a break. Hes a talent that WE NEED.
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His last arrest was a B.S. test that found he had tiny traces of alcocol in his blood after he had three beers while golfing. This was against the terms of his probation agreement, ok, he did pay a fine and got arrested. The authorities moved on and so should the league.
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Vinny, bad example, look at our economy…
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Bent says: The Jets should absolutely be looking into this. He’s got the best size/speed combo to his the open market this off-season, is fully seasoned, fills two needs at once (deep threat and big red zone target) and is likely to be dirt cheap, so the risk involved is next to nothing.
If he reverts to drugs, then that’s the end of that and you move on. It’s not a move with a potential downside that could set the franchise back.
Drugs are always a concern, but maybe he has learned his lesson – or maybe the Jets will give him a contract offer to convince him to do so. (ie you don’t get paid if you don’t stay clean).
If you meet with him and he’s a jerk then you don’t make him an offer and what’s the harm? It makes sense to consider this.
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I was just using an example. Lots of people have tried the drug and moved on to have clean sober successful lives. Myself included. But, I cant catch a football and am only 5’10″. Matt Jones can catch any pass thrown his way and is 6’6″. Lets get this deal done.
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mole – I watched the video, I thought Jones looked sorry
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I agree he has what we need, and maybe he’s learned from his mistakes, but I can’t help be reminded of Quincy Carter. Another guy who supposedly cleaned up his act but ultimately couldn’t deal with his demons.
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Scott says:
I’m all for giving someone else a second chance, and Matt Jones would definitely be a welcome addition to the Jets. You just have to wonder why some are willing to give him a chance of redemption and not others.
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I know, Vinny, just joking.
Bent, and the part I like best is the “well seasoned” part. I hear Jones got some soft hands too.
Considering that it takes time for receivers to get hip to the game plus his age, he possibly is a better option than a round 1 WR. That is if we take a latter round guy like Barden or Murphy to develop.
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I see this as a good opportunity with low risk to grab a solid deep threat WR. Everyone make mistakes. So the guy is hard core, If he gets it done on the field and stays out of trouble going forward, he could be a steal. I was against TO because he destroys entire teams. Jones doesn’t have a history of that so lets give the guy a chance. I like it.
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I agree
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Brett Justin says:
GET IT DONE!!!! low risk high reward he wont cost much and he was coming into his own last year… hes only 25 and would complment cotchery nice considering hes better then all the wideouts we have now besides cotch and if he slips up again you can jst cut him.. i think its worth it
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barrack hussein says:
if were going after criminals, id rather get burress for WR.
Then maybe pacman to help our secondary.
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How good is he getting of the line? He’s kinda skinny. Anybody see film?
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bozzie says:
Git R Done including growing back that 70′s porn stash!
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rj says:
This would be an embaressing move by the Jets… He’s not even that good… I really hope this is BS
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He has to keep the mustache though. Let’s get a boogie-nights feel to this team.
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swizzle81 says:
He is obviously not that good at anything, except running in a straight line for 40 times. Just take a look at his career stats not a very well polished WR.
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plus we can check the ‘stache for cocaine.
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lgs, hes a big body. Not great at getting off the line, but he doesnt struggle either.
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JD says:
Yea, I’d give the guy a shot, hopefully he won’t be a bad influence on the younger players, and if he was I’m sure Rex would dump him.
LT was the biggest party animal on the planet and he sure would have looked better in green than blue. -
I think what ppl are saying is the difference between NYC and Jacksonville are the amount of temptations…I don’t know how many of you have experience or a lot of experiences with coke heads/the party scene. But I throw parties for a living the issue here is there is much more temptation in NYC then there is in Jacksonville. I left the party scene and got drawn back in…the difference I drink but I don’t do drugs…I did when I was a lot younger but I learned my lessons…I have the pleasure and ability to hang out with athletes/celebs on a constant basis…I dont know how to draw a comparison but people are different….I live near philly so my good friends that are athletes are from this area…The problem is the guys that like to party will always party…There are the guys that know when to say when and the guys that dont….TO amazingly knows when to call it a night….Ryan Howard does not….Now neither them do drugs but they do drink…I know some guys that do drugs and those guys never know when to say when
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swizz, the guy was a college QB. You gotta give him credit for the time it takes to transition. You gotta figure between this season and next is whre normally a guy like this would flourish.
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To compare Matt Jones to Burress is unfair. Burress is a trouble maker in the locker room. I don ‘t see Jones adding any drama. The guys should feel lucky once he is let back in and if he continues to screw off we cut him. I see this as a win win even if he is just average The threat he brings to stretch the field will open things up not only in the passing game but in the running game as well.
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thanks revis
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PS: If we got Matt Jones on an incentive laden contract aka Ricky Williams I’m all for it….He maybe motivated by money to clean up his act
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Dean Barbella says:
The only white lines I care for are hash marks. If he’s a physical freek like Plax with 13-yards after the catch – Get ‘em!
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Buress’s problem is not the locker room.
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Burress doesnt have a problem in the locker room, but he definitely causes problems within the organization, missing meetings, not showing up on time, etc etc
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exactly, his problem is despondency
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lol. just saying. burress is a headcase. Jones has an addiction problem. Owens is in another galaxy to both of them.
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I am remembering another NY guy with an addition problem. Lawrence Taylor- he wasn’t bad. I don’t care what you put up your nose as long as the law doesn’t find out and you put up on the field I am happy. I think most would be as well.
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Darryl Strawberry?
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Remember the yankee guy? The manager? No addictions but he was looney toons.
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Harvlis says:
Jones is either mediocre, an underachiever, or his coaches were horrible. I lean towards mediocre. Add mediocre to drugs and you get – Mistake. I would stick with Marcus Henry, Larry Brackins, or Ramses Barden.
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JustAGreenGuy says:
Igs- Do you mean Billy Martin?
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Thats very true…the problem is once someone gets nailed he has a big target on his back so its inevitable he will get nailed again….It almost sounds stupid but its a different world now…I’m 30 and things have changed in 10-12yrs that I have been getting myself in trouble…Law enforcement is different now…it used to be if u knew someone or were famous you got away with stuff…nowadays its not like that….which even though it has negatively affected me its better in whole for a society…With media scrutiny police cant take the chance anymore
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He played in a crappy offense and put up stats. He is young tall and fast. He also has good hands. We didnt get T.O. thats a good thing, no Torry Holt either, but we need an offensive weapon with experience. This deal should get done soon and on the cheap, lets get him in a minicamp.
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Yeah, Billy martin was nutsoooooo
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He was a drunk too.
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that too. i hear he damned near lived in a bar.
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Is this guy good? don’t know enough about him.
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96debacle says:
i’m not sure you would go as far to say he’s addicted, more like stupid with his candy.
you sign the guy with the correct contract, high reward low risk. hell, its not like he’s coveted or anything. just make sure you can dump him if he plays like he has been up too this point.
personally i dont think we sign him many #18 jerseys would be bought by opening day.
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Lets just say the guy is a bonehead. Stupid idea to have some beers on the golf course when you have a blood test coming up. Should he be excomunicated because of it? No. He has been a decent WR so far and this might just be the final kick in the pants that staightens him out. I just think he will add a new dynamic to our offense. If he doesn’t and continues to get in trouble we get rid of him. It is now on him to put up or shut up. It is well wiorth the risk for us. As for how good he is… he will be better this year then any other WR in the draft will be, so lets roll the dice. Rex will put him in check hopefully.
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Brendan says:
He’d be interesting to pick up because he can’t cost much at all. Tanny can throw a behavior-related clause so we can dump him with no cap penalties or whatever. Give the guy a shot he is huge and can win a jump ball with just about anybody.
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RK says:
To me this is more about the team than the player.
Yes it’s up to him if he gets clean.
But wherever he goes, if he goes anywhere, they will have to deal with his addiction and whatever else his presence brings. I don’t know what problems the Jets have with drugs, if any, but perhaps they can help him assimilate into the fold and help him stay clean. That is what teams have to think about.
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Matt in Maine says:
First, keep the ‘stache! Second, if he wants an eightball he’ll be able to find in New York or Antarctica. If we can sign him to a reasonable, incentive based contract I say do it.
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steviek says:
nice pic. was he in boogie nights?
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Jets-Fan-4-Life says:
I wish this guy luck to stay clean for his mother’s sake.
Now let’s sign the coke head to a one year deal, and roll the dice.
I know that’s mean but the Jets could use him. Jones is tall and fast for a WR, and the Jets are lacking in this area. He would make it easier for what ever QB starts for Gang Green in September.
Who knows it might turn out well if he is clean!
Then again it might not. Then again he might be like LT?Remember when Lawrence Taylor was in his prime, and told the media that the reason he played with the extra intensity was because of his cocaine addiction. Of course he didn’t remember playing some of those games, but he did help the Giants to a few super bowls!
PS – Don’t do drugs!!
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Andrew Weiss says:
I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to take a chance on this guy under two conditions. 1) That they meet him and he really is contrite and reasonable, and 2) That his film shows good talent at the WR position. After that, it’s all about a short-term, back loaded, club option, cap friendly deal with incentives for receptions. What could be bad about that? If he turns out to be a bad influence in the clubhouse, you cut him.
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Matty D says:
Absolutely not…this guy is a scumbag, keep him off the team thank you Rex
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awwww, now that’s pretty mean matty. At least put some reasons behind that.
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I would take a shot and I could care less if he does drugs or not just catch freakin TDS but……..
Everybody screams about chemistry (even though I think its overrated) and what if this guy comes in and gets caught again for drugs. You dont think that messes with team chemistry??
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brian311 says:
i dont think its a lock we can offer this kid a 1 year contract loaded with incentives and call it a day. a lot of other teams would be interested in a WR that is 6-6 and runs a 4.4 40…i dont care what mistakes he has made in the past.
we are kidding ourselves if we dont think that a team like oakland will throw some money at this kid
but if we can get him for a reasonable 1 year deal, i am all for it. the team would have to develop a support system – maybe jenkins can talk some sense into him
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You guys have to stop with the 6’6″ and runs a 4.4 40 bulldink.
This guy had two TD’s last year, and four TD’s for both of the prior years. What makes all of you think he is this killer Wide Reciever. He has mediocre stats for a TE, let alone a WR.
We can do much better than Jones. Let the other teams deal with the problems.
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Harvlis, I think everyone here knows Matt Jones is not going to be a big time wide receiver for us, but hes good great size, hes young, hes talented, he should come cheap, and hes better than what we got. Thats enough to make it worth our while.
Mediocre stats for a TE? Check the league leading tight ends from last season. How many of them do you think put up 65 catches and 761 yards. I havent checked, but my guess is 5 or 6, if that many.
65 catches 761 yards
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DSmizzle says:
I say give it a try. A guy in his position can’t be offered too much money elsewhere, and hence would be a low-cost, potential high-gain acquisition.
And dear Lord what a wonderful mustache!
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BigKatFan says:
I HATE Matt Jones. He’s almost as big a jerk as Cutler. ( and 3x the crackhead)
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JRevis,
Two TD’s. It was his fourth year in the league. If this guy is talented, why two TD’s?
I would rather see Marcus Henry receive the reps that Jones would get.
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physical freaks dont translate into good football players…a la vernon gholston
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Harvlis, Jason Witten is arguably the best tight end in football, and in comparison he only had 4 TD’s, plus he plays with a much better QB. But the Tight End comparisons are stupid because all I was trying to say is Jones’ number were far better than any mediocre tight end. Marcus Henry couldnt even crack the roster, what makes you think he can make any impact, we already know Jones would make an impact.
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Matty D, Terrell Owens, Adrian Peterson, Adrian Wilson, Randy Moss, just to name a few physical freaks who are stud players
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Steven says:
NO!!!
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alex says:
1 yr. deal: His freakish size and ability make him worth the risk. Just make sure he isn’t already suspended for 1/2 the season when you sign him. In his defense, wouldn’t you have to do cocaine to live in Jacksonville.
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Bo Healey says:
Sign him!
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ED says:
dave had it a ways back. This guy doesn’t take anything seriously. Why should we think the Jets will change him? Pass.
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JRevis,
Henry looked good last year. After seeing him in pre-season, I would have given him a shot. He could have had a big impact in the red zone, instead of having to throw fades to LC. Unfortunately, Mangini and Schottenheimer felt otherwise. That does not mean that he will not be a good player. They handled Gholston and Keller poorly, as well.
We disagree on Jones. That is OK. Only time will tell, if he is Doug Jolley or if he blossoms into a player. He is going into his fifth year and he has gone downhill with his TD numbers and his life. He either turns it around or fades away. I just hope the Jets don’t figure in the experiment.
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You want a star WR that takes things seriously? Now you’re asking for too much now. But where’s the reports of diva behavior about this guy that says we should stay away from him? I mean he got caught sniffing some coke and drinking some beer. And that was dumb but I wouldn’t go so far as to say he doesn’t take anything seriously. Can we get a little more dirt on this guy before we close the door on him?
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Marcus Henry – Harvalis I wish you could see me scrunching up my face right now. Marcus Henry? So on defense you’re cool with chasing down Marquis talent like Bart Scott. But when it comes to the offense… ‘Oh, we’ll just go with Marcus Henry.’ Come on.
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Igs,
What would you know about Marcus Henry? Nothing. How can you think he will automatically never be anything in the pros. He was a rookie who was being broken in slowly. I never claimed that Henry was Terrell Owens or that we shouldn’t persue a big, fast, talented wide receiver. All I have said is that Jones’ stats don’t impress me, his personal life is hurting, and I don’t think he is the answer.
As I said to JRevis, you can disagree.
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Harvalis,
And I am disagreeing. What I’m saying to you is that the same attitude we take with our defense we have to take with our offense. If the Jets said ‘let’s not sign Bart Scott. We can let Barton go and use a MLB from our practice squad. Noone’s ever seen this guy do anythng. He wasn’t impressive in college and he hasn’t cracked the active roster but let’s see what he can do for a season.’ That wouldn’t make you happy. It would piss you off.
Now I really think that the naysayers are not giving Jones enough cred for making the transition from QB to WR. Relative to that transition and the games he missed I think he put up pretty good numbers the past season. He’s brimming with potential and hasn’t really done anything to deserve a bad reputation. I’d love to be the team that gives this guy a shot.
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Igs,
What part of the sentence “I never claimed that Henry was Terell Owens or that we should not persue a big, fast, talented wide receiver” did you not understand.
But, as long as you want to continue the argument, let me enlighten you about Marcus Henry. Henry played for a very good Kansas team, in his senior year. He averaged 18 yards per catch, having a long reception in just about every game. He ended with ten TD’s and caught one in the Orange Bowl, where Kansas beat Virginia Tech. He is a true 6’4″ receiver. He is not a QB who was converted to a receiver and never made it at the position. Henry has all the potential and tools to be a solid big receiver. Like most fans — If the media doesn’t tell you that he will be good, you assume he is nothing. Only time and opportunity will tell. It wouldn’t take much for him to have a better career than Jones.
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harvalis,
You never claimed he was TO, but you did say you’d rather see him get the reps that Jones would get, which means you would rather see him be our #1 downfield guy, basically a starter and us not sign Jones and that’s what I disagree with. I Henry is going to be a star he has to prove it. The Saints didn’t just anoint Marques Colston. Colston gave the Saints something to believe in although he was the last player drafted that year. Henry hasn’t cracked the roster for a reason.I’m also saying that you should give Jones more credit. It’s hard eough to cme into the league as a WR and break through, but to make the transition from QB to WR and still get playing time says a lot about his potential. That he put up the numbers he did last season, minus 3 games also says a lot about his potential.
You talk about the guy as if he came in expecting to be the next Randy Moss and just hasn’t done anything. I think he’s done a lot relative to the circumstances of said transition and is still rising as a WR.
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Igs,
I said Jones had two touchdowns in his fourth year in the league. With his 6’6″ frame, with his 4.4 speed, and with three years experience – 2 TD’s. You say he’s done alot. What did he do? Get caught for coke.
Yes, I would want Marcus Henry to get the reps that Jones would get because Jones already had his opportunity, did nothing with it, and Henry could be a player. Just because Mangini and Schottenheimer didn’t take advantage of Henry — It doesn’t mean anything. As I said before, they mis-handled Gholston and Keller, as well.
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Surprisingly im gonna agree with lgs here. I’m not saying Marcus Henry will not be good, but the logic behind taking a guy who wasnt even on the roster last year, over a solid proven WR like Jones is extremely flawed. Just like those who say we should go with Ratliff as opposed to Cutler, its a big risk. Now the risk of utilizing Henry over signing Jones obiously isnt as important, but whose to say we cant sign Jones and play Henry?
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Harvalis, it’s been 4 years. You can say that most WRs take about 4 to 6 years or even longer to become dominant Now add to that the transition from QB to WR and it seems like Jones is right on track. Again, you talk as if the guy has bombed. His career is still new. All things considered he’s on an upswing.
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GoalieTJ1 says:
Cocaine is a hell of a drug!! Matt Jones is a hell of an athalete
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Bent says:
The Jones/Henry debate is interesting. Igs, I don’t think Harvlis is looking at Jones or Henry as a starter. Personally, I view the red zone WR and deep threat roles as just that…roles. If you can get a guy that does both, great, but I don’t think either of them would expect to userp the starters (currently Stuck and Cotch, but possibly soon to be rookie and Cotch with Stuck as the slot guy). Maybe Clowney could be the deep threat and Henry the big target, or maybe Jones could be both, but I don’t think your comparison of Bart Scott being brought in to start at MLB is in direct contrast to Harvlis wanting Henry to get a chance to be a role player.
I know you like your skill players, Igs, so I do see where you are coming from.
Anyway, I see Henry as an underneath possession guy, despite his big yards per catch average. He was not physical at all for his size in college, so I don’t know if he can be that red zone threat. Having said that, the reason they drafted him and then stashed him was obvious: He will have spent the last 12 months bulking up and learning to get off the line. Since that all went on out of the public eye, nobody can predict whether or not he’ll be successful. Like Harvlis, I am interested to see what he can do in camp, but as I previously said, I would certainly consider Jones and the fact Henry may or may not be the real deal would not affect my decision. (I *would* need Jones to be cheap and to convince me about his attitude though).
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Bent says:
Jones has 15 TDs in 4 years, btw, so even though he only had two last year he is still a threat. And last year was hardly a down year because he had a career high in catches and yards. I’d take 65 catches and nearly 800 yards from my third receiver.
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Good morning, lol. A couple of places I agree and disagree with you Bent,
So you agree that Jone’s career is still on an upswing and he decidedly is not a bust? A lot of things could still happen with him. He could be a bust. He could become a red zone guy, a la Travis Henry. Or he could be an amazing WR in the mold of Plaxico Burress, who himself just became an amazing WR before he shot himself in the leg. But decidedly the guys career is still in it’s early phases. And Harvalis seems to speculate that the guy is dead meat.
And I think we can speculate all we want about Marcus Henry, but my point is that, unlike Marques Colston or even David Clowney, Henry has not shown the org anything to say this guy needs to get more touches right away. Therefore I would not let that stop me from taking a shot on a guy with a lot of potential like Jones. Which was my only point as far as Henry goes.
And I think the Bart Scott comparison is viable. Because if they proposed that Marquis Cooper’s talent should stop us from pursuing Scott, everyone on this board, including myself, would be pissed. If we take a 1st rate approach to fixing our D, let’s atleast take a 2nd rate approach to fixing the offense. That’s Jones, a 2nd rate player that could blossom into a pro-bowler.
For the record I don’t especially love the skill positions. But I do like having ability and flexability. I’m actually more of a defensive minded person but I’ve learned over the years with the Jets that there’s no point in having a monster defense if they’re going to be on the field and worn down all the time. Best defense is a good offense…
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* meant Marquis Cooper’s potential
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Igs,
Good morning. You keep putting your own spin on what I am saying. As Bent mentioned, I am not saying that Henry is a star. I am saying that he has potential and I would rather see the Jets find out if he can be their big target, rather than spend money and time on Jones. This does not mean that the Jets should not continue to look for a big receiver. I would hope that Ramses Barden falls to them in the third round. I would want to give him a chance, before i take a proven mediocre player like Jones.
I realize you think that Jones can grow into a dangerous weapon. I think four years in an organization would let you know if this would be possible. If the Jets had a WR and he had the stats that Jones had, plus the off-field non-sense — we would cut him, as did the Jags. As opposed to Bent and yourself, I feel his stats are mediocre at best.
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By the way, Justin McCairens had 700 yds and four tds for us, in his first year with us. Then he had 700 yds and two tds. Then he fell off the table.
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And his career stats are better than Jones
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Harvalis, I’m not putting a spin on what you’re saying:
“I am saying that he has potential and I would rather see the Jets find out if he can be their big target, rather than spend money and time on Jones.”
This means that you’d rather them see what they can do with Henry than sign Jones and I’m saying that that kind of thinking is skewed, it’s de-prioritizing the offense. Henry has showed me nothing to warrant not taking a chance on a player like Jones. Now I don’t mind working with Henry, but not passing on a big potential guy for him.
And no, 4 years is not enough to make the transition from WR in the NFL. Most WR take longer to become dminant, and if said WR was a college QB, I would expect it to take even longer. Which I keep saying and you don’t seem to take that into account.
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Lol, Harvalis, you just refuse to acknowledge the QB transition. YOu usually make good points but I think you’re way off here.
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I liked what I saw from Henry in preseason last year. There’s a substantial quality to him. He doesn’t drop balls and he runs routes fairly well.
He clearly wasn’t at NFL speed, though, last year but he was a guy that looked like he might develop into something.
I think the team is already evaluating what they’ve got especially in second year guys. If Henry’s got something, it ought to be obvious. I read that they’ll be doing some limited drills this week. That may determine whether a guy like Scott will savor the brew or if Henry’s potential has translated into an NFL receiver.
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hogzilla says:
Jacksonville TO would barley get 700 yds in jac give him a breack
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He would have had a 1000 yds anywhere else and would have in jac if not suspended for 3 games . This guy should not be compared to burress or pacman he’s only been in major trouble once. Also if he was such a cokehead addict don’t you think the judge would have put him in rehab!
Cocaine is obviously easier to find in NY/NJ. Jones would have trouble keeping his nose clean here.