Newsday FOBs (friends of the blog) Bob Glauber and Erik Boland are reporting that the Jets might have interest in former first round draft choice and recently released (because of additional run-ins with the law) WR Matt Jones.
Former Jaguars receiver Matt Jones, who was released earlier this week after spending nearly a week in prison for a probation violation, could draw interest from the Jets and Cowboys, league sources have indicated.
What has to happen before any team signs Jones is for the NFL to decide whether he faces additional sanctions for his probation violation. Jones was suspended three games last year after being arrested in a cocaine possession incident.
First thing, no mustaches like that … please. Jones is a physical freak, 6 feet 6 inches tall, 242 pounds, 4.4 timed 40 yard dash and a 39.5 inch vert. During his career he’s averaged 13.0 YPC.
The bottom line with Jones is that he’s an amazing physical talent, but there’s the potential he’s still chasing the dragon. I think we’ve all made our fair share of mistakes, and everyone’s worth a second chance. If he’s available, he’s worth a look and could be the Plaxico Burress style receiver for this offense that it could definitely use. I coveted him in the 2005 Draft and followed him since. He’s been a productive player, but never lived up to the buzz that accompanied the QB convert during the 2005 Draft.
nice pic. was he in boogie nights?
I wish this guy luck to stay clean for his mother’s sake.
Now let’s sign the coke head to a one year deal, and roll the dice.
I know that’s mean but the Jets could use him. Jones is tall and fast for a WR, and the Jets are lacking in this area. He would make it easier for what ever QB starts for Gang Green in September.
Who knows it might turn out well if he is clean!
Then again it might not. Then again he might be like LT?
Remember when Lawrence Taylor was in his prime, and told the media that the reason he played with the extra intensity was because of his cocaine addiction. Of course he didn’t remember playing some of those games, but he did help the Giants to a few super bowls!
PS – Don’t do drugs!!
I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to take a chance on this guy under two conditions. 1) That they meet him and he really is contrite and reasonable, and 2) That his film shows good talent at the WR position. After that, it’s all about a short-term, back loaded, club option, cap friendly deal with incentives for receptions. What could be bad about that? If he turns out to be a bad influence in the clubhouse, you cut him.
Absolutely not…this guy is a scumbag, keep him off the team thank you Rex
awwww, now that’s pretty mean matty. At least put some reasons behind that.
I would take a shot and I could care less if he does drugs or not just catch freakin TDS but……..
Everybody screams about chemistry (even though I think its overrated) and what if this guy comes in and gets caught again for drugs. You dont think that messes with team chemistry??
i dont think its a lock we can offer this kid a 1 year contract loaded with incentives and call it a day. a lot of other teams would be interested in a WR that is 6-6 and runs a 4.4 40…i dont care what mistakes he has made in the past.
we are kidding ourselves if we dont think that a team like oakland will throw some money at this kid
but if we can get him for a reasonable 1 year deal, i am all for it. the team would have to develop a support system – maybe jenkins can talk some sense into him
You guys have to stop with the 6’6″ and runs a 4.4 40 bulldink.
This guy had two TD’s last year, and four TD’s for both of the prior years. What makes all of you think he is this killer Wide Reciever. He has mediocre stats for a TE, let alone a WR.
We can do much better than Jones. Let the other teams deal with the problems.
Harvlis, I think everyone here knows Matt Jones is not going to be a big time wide receiver for us, but hes good great size, hes young, hes talented, he should come cheap, and hes better than what we got. Thats enough to make it worth our while.
Mediocre stats for a TE? Check the league leading tight ends from last season. How many of them do you think put up 65 catches and 761 yards. I havent checked, but my guess is 5 or 6, if that many.
65 catches 761 yards
I say give it a try. A guy in his position can’t be offered too much money elsewhere, and hence would be a low-cost, potential high-gain acquisition.
And dear Lord what a wonderful mustache!
I HATE Matt Jones. He’s almost as big a jerk as Cutler. ( and 3x the crackhead)
JRevis,
Two TD’s. It was his fourth year in the league. If this guy is talented, why two TD’s?
I would rather see Marcus Henry receive the reps that Jones would get.
physical freaks dont translate into good football players…a la vernon gholston
Harvlis, Jason Witten is arguably the best tight end in football, and in comparison he only had 4 TD’s, plus he plays with a much better QB. But the Tight End comparisons are stupid because all I was trying to say is Jones’ number were far better than any mediocre tight end. Marcus Henry couldnt even crack the roster, what makes you think he can make any impact, we already know Jones would make an impact.
Matty D, Terrell Owens, Adrian Peterson, Adrian Wilson, Randy Moss, just to name a few physical freaks who are stud players
NO!!!
1 yr. deal: His freakish size and ability make him worth the risk. Just make sure he isn’t already suspended for 1/2 the season when you sign him. In his defense, wouldn’t you have to do cocaine to live in Jacksonville.
Sign him!
dave had it a ways back. This guy doesn’t take anything seriously. Why should we think the Jets will change him? Pass.
JRevis,
Henry looked good last year. After seeing him in pre-season, I would have given him a shot. He could have had a big impact in the red zone, instead of having to throw fades to LC. Unfortunately, Mangini and Schottenheimer felt otherwise. That does not mean that he will not be a good player. They handled Gholston and Keller poorly, as well.
We disagree on Jones. That is OK. Only time will tell, if he is Doug Jolley or if he blossoms into a player. He is going into his fifth year and he has gone downhill with his TD numbers and his life. He either turns it around or fades away. I just hope the Jets don’t figure in the experiment.
You want a star WR that takes things seriously? Now you’re asking for too much now. But where’s the reports of diva behavior about this guy that says we should stay away from him? I mean he got caught sniffing some coke and drinking some beer. And that was dumb but I wouldn’t go so far as to say he doesn’t take anything seriously. Can we get a little more dirt on this guy before we close the door on him?
Marcus Henry – Harvalis I wish you could see me scrunching up my face right now. Marcus Henry? So on defense you’re cool with chasing down Marquis talent like Bart Scott. But when it comes to the offense… ‘Oh, we’ll just go with Marcus Henry.’ Come on.
Igs,
What would you know about Marcus Henry? Nothing. How can you think he will automatically never be anything in the pros. He was a rookie who was being broken in slowly. I never claimed that Henry was Terrell Owens or that we shouldn’t persue a big, fast, talented wide receiver. All I have said is that Jones’ stats don’t impress me, his personal life is hurting, and I don’t think he is the answer.
As I said to JRevis, you can disagree.
Harvalis,
And I am disagreeing. What I’m saying to you is that the same attitude we take with our defense we have to take with our offense. If the Jets said ‘let’s not sign Bart Scott. We can let Barton go and use a MLB from our practice squad. Noone’s ever seen this guy do anythng. He wasn’t impressive in college and he hasn’t cracked the active roster but let’s see what he can do for a season.’ That wouldn’t make you happy. It would piss you off.
Now I really think that the naysayers are not giving Jones enough cred for making the transition from QB to WR. Relative to that transition and the games he missed I think he put up pretty good numbers the past season. He’s brimming with potential and hasn’t really done anything to deserve a bad reputation. I’d love to be the team that gives this guy a shot.
Igs,
What part of the sentence “I never claimed that Henry was Terell Owens or that we should not persue a big, fast, talented wide receiver” did you not understand.
But, as long as you want to continue the argument, let me enlighten you about Marcus Henry. Henry played for a very good Kansas team, in his senior year. He averaged 18 yards per catch, having a long reception in just about every game. He ended with ten TD’s and caught one in the Orange Bowl, where Kansas beat Virginia Tech. He is a true 6’4″ receiver. He is not a QB who was converted to a receiver and never made it at the position. Henry has all the potential and tools to be a solid big receiver. Like most fans — If the media doesn’t tell you that he will be good, you assume he is nothing. Only time and opportunity will tell. It wouldn’t take much for him to have a better career than Jones.
harvalis,
You never claimed he was TO, but you did say you’d rather see him get the reps that Jones would get, which means you would rather see him be our #1 downfield guy, basically a starter and us not sign Jones and that’s what I disagree with. I Henry is going to be a star he has to prove it. The Saints didn’t just anoint Marques Colston. Colston gave the Saints something to believe in although he was the last player drafted that year. Henry hasn’t cracked the roster for a reason.
I’m also saying that you should give Jones more credit. It’s hard eough to cme into the league as a WR and break through, but to make the transition from QB to WR and still get playing time says a lot about his potential. That he put up the numbers he did last season, minus 3 games also says a lot about his potential.
You talk about the guy as if he came in expecting to be the next Randy Moss and just hasn’t done anything. I think he’s done a lot relative to the circumstances of said transition and is still rising as a WR.
Igs,
I said Jones had two touchdowns in his fourth year in the league. With his 6’6″ frame, with his 4.4 speed, and with three years experience – 2 TD’s. You say he’s done alot. What did he do? Get caught for coke.
Yes, I would want Marcus Henry to get the reps that Jones would get because Jones already had his opportunity, did nothing with it, and Henry could be a player. Just because Mangini and Schottenheimer didn’t take advantage of Henry — It doesn’t mean anything. As I said before, they mis-handled Gholston and Keller, as well.
Surprisingly im gonna agree with lgs here. I’m not saying Marcus Henry will not be good, but the logic behind taking a guy who wasnt even on the roster last year, over a solid proven WR like Jones is extremely flawed. Just like those who say we should go with Ratliff as opposed to Cutler, its a big risk. Now the risk of utilizing Henry over signing Jones obiously isnt as important, but whose to say we cant sign Jones and play Henry?
Harvalis, it’s been 4 years. You can say that most WRs take about 4 to 6 years or even longer to become dominant Now add to that the transition from QB to WR and it seems like Jones is right on track. Again, you talk as if the guy has bombed. His career is still new. All things considered he’s on an upswing.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug!! Matt Jones is a hell of an athalete
The Jones/Henry debate is interesting. Igs, I don’t think Harvlis is looking at Jones or Henry as a starter. Personally, I view the red zone WR and deep threat roles as just that…roles. If you can get a guy that does both, great, but I don’t think either of them would expect to userp the starters (currently Stuck and Cotch, but possibly soon to be rookie and Cotch with Stuck as the slot guy). Maybe Clowney could be the deep threat and Henry the big target, or maybe Jones could be both, but I don’t think your comparison of Bart Scott being brought in to start at MLB is in direct contrast to Harvlis wanting Henry to get a chance to be a role player.
I know you like your skill players, Igs, so I do see where you are coming from.
Anyway, I see Henry as an underneath possession guy, despite his big yards per catch average. He was not physical at all for his size in college, so I don’t know if he can be that red zone threat. Having said that, the reason they drafted him and then stashed him was obvious: He will have spent the last 12 months bulking up and learning to get off the line. Since that all went on out of the public eye, nobody can predict whether or not he’ll be successful. Like Harvlis, I am interested to see what he can do in camp, but as I previously said, I would certainly consider Jones and the fact Henry may or may not be the real deal would not affect my decision. (I *would* need Jones to be cheap and to convince me about his attitude though).
Jones has 15 TDs in 4 years, btw, so even though he only had two last year he is still a threat. And last year was hardly a down year because he had a career high in catches and yards. I’d take 65 catches and nearly 800 yards from my third receiver.
Good morning, lol. A couple of places I agree and disagree with you Bent,
So you agree that Jone’s career is still on an upswing and he decidedly is not a bust? A lot of things could still happen with him. He could be a bust. He could become a red zone guy, a la Travis Henry. Or he could be an amazing WR in the mold of Plaxico Burress, who himself just became an amazing WR before he shot himself in the leg. But decidedly the guys career is still in it’s early phases. And Harvalis seems to speculate that the guy is dead meat.
And I think we can speculate all we want about Marcus Henry, but my point is that, unlike Marques Colston or even David Clowney, Henry has not shown the org anything to say this guy needs to get more touches right away. Therefore I would not let that stop me from taking a shot on a guy with a lot of potential like Jones. Which was my only point as far as Henry goes.
And I think the Bart Scott comparison is viable. Because if they proposed that Marquis Cooper’s talent should stop us from pursuing Scott, everyone on this board, including myself, would be pissed. If we take a 1st rate approach to fixing our D, let’s atleast take a 2nd rate approach to fixing the offense. That’s Jones, a 2nd rate player that could blossom into a pro-bowler.
For the record I don’t especially love the skill positions. But I do like having ability and flexability. I’m actually more of a defensive minded person but I’ve learned over the years with the Jets that there’s no point in having a monster defense if they’re going to be on the field and worn down all the time. Best defense is a good offense…
* meant Marquis Cooper’s potential
Igs,
Good morning. You keep putting your own spin on what I am saying. As Bent mentioned, I am not saying that Henry is a star. I am saying that he has potential and I would rather see the Jets find out if he can be their big target, rather than spend money and time on Jones. This does not mean that the Jets should not continue to look for a big receiver. I would hope that Ramses Barden falls to them in the third round. I would want to give him a chance, before i take a proven mediocre player like Jones.
I realize you think that Jones can grow into a dangerous weapon. I think four years in an organization would let you know if this would be possible. If the Jets had a WR and he had the stats that Jones had, plus the off-field non-sense — we would cut him, as did the Jags. As opposed to Bent and yourself, I feel his stats are mediocre at best.
By the way, Justin McCairens had 700 yds and four tds for us, in his first year with us. Then he had 700 yds and two tds. Then he fell off the table.
And his career stats are better than Jones
Harvalis, I’m not putting a spin on what you’re saying:
“I am saying that he has potential and I would rather see the Jets find out if he can be their big target, rather than spend money and time on Jones.”
This means that you’d rather them see what they can do with Henry than sign Jones and I’m saying that that kind of thinking is skewed, it’s de-prioritizing the offense. Henry has showed me nothing to warrant not taking a chance on a player like Jones. Now I don’t mind working with Henry, but not passing on a big potential guy for him.
And no, 4 years is not enough to make the transition from WR in the NFL. Most WR take longer to become dminant, and if said WR was a college QB, I would expect it to take even longer. Which I keep saying and you don’t seem to take that into account.
Lol, Harvalis, you just refuse to acknowledge the QB transition. YOu usually make good points but I think you’re way off here.
I liked what I saw from Henry in preseason last year. There’s a substantial quality to him. He doesn’t drop balls and he runs routes fairly well.
He clearly wasn’t at NFL speed, though, last year but he was a guy that looked like he might develop into something.
I think the team is already evaluating what they’ve got especially in second year guys. If Henry’s got something, it ought to be obvious. I read that they’ll be doing some limited drills this week. That may determine whether a guy like Scott will savor the brew or if Henry’s potential has translated into an NFL receiver.
Jacksonville TO would barley get 700 yds in jac give him a breack
He would have had a 1000 yds anywhere else and would have in jac if not suspended for 3 games . This guy should not be compared to burress or pacman he’s only been in major trouble once. Also if he was such a cokehead addict don’t you think the judge would have put him in rehab!