Comments on: The TJB20: We Must Protect This Haus http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:18:14 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147303 SackDance99 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:15:50 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147303 Alex, I think it's Josh Freeman's "tangibles" that have seen him rise. First, if you round up, he's 6-6...tremendous height for a QB. Second, he matches that height with great mobility and the ability to throw on the run, especially deep. Third, he has a cannon arm...as good as anyone in the NFL today. Plus, unlike Vince Young, or even JaMarcus Russell, Freeman was in a pro-style offense, not the spread. So, he may be more NFL-ready than many people think. On the negative side, he's a junior, he was from a terrible program, and he's been inconsistent. IMO, he's worth a first-round pick because of his potential...he really has a unique skill set...more like Elway or pre-injury Culpepper than Young or Russell. The Jets defensive moves have been spot on. Both Scott and Leonhard haven't reached their NFL ceilings, yet and I can't believe that Lito's skills eroded as much as it seemed the past 2 seasons. If Gholston gives them any sort of production, the defense could be special. Izzo makes the special teams better and adds another fiery leader to the team. If the Jets get lucky with average QB play, the team could be very good. Alex,

I think it’s Josh Freeman’s “tangibles” that have seen him rise. First, if you round up, he’s 6-6…tremendous height for a QB. Second, he matches that height with great mobility and the ability to throw on the run, especially deep. Third, he has a cannon arm…as good as anyone in the NFL today. Plus, unlike Vince Young, or even JaMarcus Russell, Freeman was in a pro-style offense, not the spread. So, he may be more NFL-ready than many people think. On the negative side, he’s a junior, he was from a terrible program, and he’s been inconsistent. IMO, he’s worth a first-round pick because of his potential…he really has a unique skill set…more like Elway or pre-injury Culpepper than Young or Russell.

The Jets defensive moves have been spot on. Both Scott and Leonhard haven’t reached their NFL ceilings, yet and I can’t believe that Lito’s skills eroded as much as it seemed the past 2 seasons. If Gholston gives them any sort of production, the defense could be special. Izzo makes the special teams better and adds another fiery leader to the team. If the Jets get lucky with average QB play, the team could be very good.

]]> By: blee http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147284 blee Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:13:22 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147284 getting Rex Ryan alone puts this offseason as an instant success.. To add Bart Scott, Lito Shepperd, and Leonard makes it a very successful offseason. getting Rex Ryan alone puts this offseason as an instant success.. To add Bart Scott, Lito Shepperd, and Leonard makes it a very successful offseason.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147224 Bent Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:36:26 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147224 Drack - I actually do think Leonhard will be a big upgrade. Elam practically lost the Denver game on his own, so he's a best a work in progress. Corey - It's JIM Leonhard. Brian is the ex-Rutgers FB currently with the Rams. Don't worry though, Bassett has done this himself at least twice and I'll probably do it too before all's said and done! As for Seanmac's Hackett comment, sorry DKnyj, but it does make some some sense. What Sean said is true but wasn't a glowing endorsement of Hackett...I'm sure Sean would still concede that his play calling was terrible, which is the main reason we all (rightly) wanted him gone. Nobody could question he built a solid offense...he just couldn't drive it. Drack – I actually do think Leonhard will be a big upgrade. Elam practically lost the Denver game on his own, so he’s a best a work in progress.

Corey – It’s JIM Leonhard. Brian is the ex-Rutgers FB currently with the Rams. Don’t worry though, Bassett has done this himself at least twice and I’ll probably do it too before all’s said and done!

As for Seanmac’s Hackett comment, sorry DKnyj, but it does make some some sense. What Sean said is true but wasn’t a glowing endorsement of Hackett…I’m sure Sean would still concede that his play calling was terrible, which is the main reason we all (rightly) wanted him gone. Nobody could question he built a solid offense…he just couldn’t drive it.

]]> By: JD http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147221 JD Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:29:55 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147221 re - KC NO !!! re – KC

NO !!!

]]> By: SoFlaJets http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147215 SoFlaJets Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:38:26 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147215 One question who is this "Max" guy from JetNation anyway? One question who is this “Max” guy from JetNation anyway?

]]> By: Harvlis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147195 Harvlis Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:12:22 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147195 I had no problem getting rid of Mangini but, I would have cleaned house and gotten rid of Schottenheimer and Sutton. Neither deserved to stay, any more than Mangini. Schottenheimer hasn't been good for two years and Sutton has never been anything. If you try and tell me about passing yards, rankings, or wins -- I put that all on the players. They were succeeding despite poor coaching. With the proper coaching, who knows how far last years' team could have gone. As for the player pick-ups, only time will tell. I don't agree with Drack on Free Agents. There are good free agent pick-ups and bad ones. Last year, free agents rounded out our Offensive and Defensive lines. A GM has to use everything in his power to formulate a winning team. Our team had four wins, prior to Tanny's superior FA pick-ups. I am a big fan of homegrown talent but, in todays sports world, it is rare for a player to stick with one team. There is money to be made and that is a big reason for them playing the game. I had no problem getting rid of Mangini but, I would have cleaned house and gotten rid of Schottenheimer and Sutton. Neither deserved to stay, any more than Mangini. Schottenheimer hasn’t been good for two years and Sutton has never been anything. If you try and tell me about passing yards, rankings, or wins — I put that all on the players. They were succeeding despite poor coaching. With the proper coaching, who knows how far last years’ team could have gone.

As for the player pick-ups, only time will tell.

I don’t agree with Drack on Free Agents. There are good free agent pick-ups and bad ones. Last year, free agents rounded out our Offensive and Defensive lines. A GM has to use everything in his power to formulate a winning team. Our team had four wins, prior to Tanny’s superior FA pick-ups. I am a big fan of homegrown talent but, in todays sports world, it is rare for a player to stick with one team. There is money to be made and that is a big reason for them playing the game.

]]> By: kc. http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147193 kc. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:02:13 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147193 ONE QUESTION.....Kellen Clemens isnt better than Jim Mcmahon? Rex Grossman? Craig Morton? David Woodley? Tony Eason? ONE QUESTION…..Kellen Clemens isnt better than Jim Mcmahon? Rex Grossman? Craig Morton? David Woodley? Tony Eason?

]]> By: john http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147192 john Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:57:52 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147192 miles austin wide redcvier from dallas is going to come for a vist source rotoworld miles austin wide redcvier from dallas is going to come for a vist source rotoworld

]]> By: Brandon from Illinois http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147188 Brandon from Illinois Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:47:59 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147188 The happiest moment of the off season for me so far , isn't a move the Jets made, but a move that they didn't. I can be proud to be a Jets fan this season, no matter what their record is, which is something I couldn't say had they brought Cutler into the mix. I'm just happy to root for a team that isn't led by an arrogant QB without integrity or class. I'd of had a hard time truly rooting for that scumbag. The happiest moment of the off season for me so far , isn’t a move the Jets made, but a move that they didn’t. I can be proud to be a Jets fan this season, no matter what their record is, which is something I couldn’t say had they brought Cutler into the mix. I’m just happy to root for a team that isn’t led by an arrogant QB without integrity or class. I’d of had a hard time truly rooting for that scumbag.

]]> By: Jets-Fan-4-Life http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/comment-page-1/#comment-147185 Jets-Fan-4-Life Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:36:39 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/07/the-tjb20-we-must-protect-this-haus/#comment-147185 NYC Your right its not fair to say KC is a bust, however logic points most of us to believe he will be. Here is why, even with the same O-line in ‘07 noodle arm Chad who was injured yet again still had better stats then KC. Then during the off-season KC still couldn't win the spot from Chad even with the additional push he was getting from the front office. After Brett Favre retired KC was interviewed and instead of saying positive stuff like my team, my guys, I will lead us to victory, KC chose to say that Ratliff is great, the team is fine, it will be a tough challenge I face this summer in QB competition. The end result this guy has no confidence, the team knows it, the fans know it, and the front office knows it too. He has been given ample amounts of time and opportunities to clam the starting spot but he just is not good enough to get it. IMO the Jets will build him up for trade value and then look to trade him when Ratliff beats him this year. NYC
Your right its not fair to say KC is a bust, however logic points most of us to believe he will be. Here is why, even with the same O-line in ‘07 noodle arm Chad who was injured yet again still had better stats then KC.

Then during the off-season KC still couldn’t win the spot from Chad even with the additional push he was getting from the front office. After Brett Favre retired KC was interviewed and instead of saying positive stuff like my team, my guys, I will lead us to victory, KC chose to say that Ratliff is great, the team is fine, it will be a tough challenge I face this summer in QB competition. The end result this guy has no confidence, the team knows it, the fans know it, and the front office knows it too. He has been given ample amounts of time and opportunities to clam the starting spot but he just is not good enough to get it. IMO the Jets will build him up for trade value and then look to trade him when Ratliff beats him this year.

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