News: Miles Austin Pursuit ‘Dead’
Rich Cimini reports tonight that the Jets are ending their pursuit of Cowboys WR Miles Austin.
The Jets’ courtship of Cowboys WR Miles Austin is “dead,” according to a person with knowledge of the situation.
So much for that flirtation.Evidently, the Jets came to their senses, realizing it would’ve been crazy to part with a second-round pick — the compensation that would’ve been required to land Austin, a restricted free agent.
Austin was an intriguing option, but the Jets have thought the best of giving up a second round draft pick.
52 Responses to News: Miles Austin Pursuit ‘Dead’
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dave04 says:
a-friggin-men.
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Igs says:
THE PERSONNEL INTELLIGENCE LATELY IS THOROUGHLY APPRECIATED.
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Lucas says:
YES! YES! You have no idea how happy I am about this.
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Bobby C says:
What a relief
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bozzie says:
Build through the draft please!!!!!!! :)~~
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Dylan says:
I think it would have been a good signing. I guess we will know by the end of the season though. Lets see what we can do in the draft.
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hank/naples says:
Dylan;
I agree. I also think it would have been a good signing. With TO gone the Cowoys will now make him their #2 receiver. This kid is bigger, stronger AND faster than Wes Welker. Loook for him to have a great year. Can’t wait to see who Tannenbaum drafts w/2nd pick.
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Before you put any “wills”in fron of anything about Austin, you gotta put the big “If”. As in ‘If he can actually stay on the field.
What happens to him in the future doesn’t really have any bearing on us. If the boys keep him and he becomes a stud, well, they didn’t have to give anything up to get him. He was already there. It was smart not to take the risk. You build championship teams through the draft and by making smart FA moves and smart trades. This would not have been smart. Kudos Mike Tannenbaum.
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PS. What happened to Tannenbaum’s PATENTED “poison pill”. It must be losing its potentecy (Cutler, Kemo and now Miles).
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lgs:
Great thinking there guy, that’s why we’re 40 years and counting.
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Drafting a WR is so much more risky than signing a FA WR, even if it does mean giving up a 2nd rounder. I just hope they don’t reach for a WR like DHB or Harvin in the 1st round. If he does have a great season for the Cowgirls, there are gonna be a lot of Jets fans eating there words on this blog…
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ramble914 says:
Thank God, I can’t think of a more foolish deal then this one.
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Hopefully the Jets will go and get Holt now. I do not want to go into the season with what they have now and a rookie at WR! Since when are Jets fans all about “building through the draft”? Our team would SUCK if the Jets hadn’t done so much in FA and through trades over the last couple years. Wouldn’t you all just love to see our team without Jenkins, Pace, Faneca, Woody, Scott, Leonard, Lito and TJ just to name a few…
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Well Hank, we’re 40 years in counting because in the past this is exactly the kind of backward thing the Jets would have done. The reason this off season has made me so happy is that the jets are doing things way different than what they’ve done in the past. And if they keep doing it, i bet you in 3 years Ryan will be hoisting a Lombardi Trophy.
The key peice missing right now is that down feild threat. So I know Austin looked good. But you just don’t throw a 2nd round pick at an injury prone FA that has had 18 catches in 3 years. Which is why no one else beside the boys and the Jets are even buzzing about Austin.
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BTW, can anyone tell me the last time a team gave up a 2nd round pick for an RFA that had previously produced that little? What’s the precedent?
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Jeff says:
your right igs. He got 18 catches in 3 seasons in the league. Hardly a resume warranting a 2nd round pick. Id rather draft a receiver who caught 100+ passes in 3yrs in college vs a player who caught 18 in the same timespan
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TheRealRK says:
Phew! Dodged a bullet there. Thank God
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Reprocity says:
Due dillagence…. We can still trade for him. Call me crazy but I’d trade for Posciak back.
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Rich R. says:
back to the likes of Kenny Britt, Hakeem Nicks & company?
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kc. says:
just sayimg,I think he(austin) is probably “better” than any reciever coming out in the draft! Yeah,maybe not FIVE years down the line,but right now??
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James in TN says:
smart move, get holt.
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Daniel says:
Great news. The Rex Ryan honeymoon period continues. It might still end if we draft Freeman or Pettigrew though.
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JetOrange says:
It is almost dead, the Jets are not interested in the players demands or are not willing to pay the Cowboys a second round pick, If it is the player, his agent has until thursday to fix it with Tanny. If the Jets are just not willing to pay a second round pick, well its in Jerry’s court. The Cowboys do not have a number one pick, but do have 11 draft pick in 2009. The only way Jerry can get into the first round ( if thats desirable) is to package Miles Austin with several draft picks to the Jets.
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jim says:
AGAIN – trade down and take Kenny Brit…he’s taller and faster than Laverneus….with the extra pick take the best d lineman and/or running back….maybe that blocking tight end Quinn
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Once again if Jerry wants to get this deal done and get an extra second round pick, all he has to do is kick in one of his two 4th round picks ( he has two fourths and 3 fifths). The Jets wind up with Austin and a fourth and the Jets send Dallas 52
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Bent says: Hank – Not sure if you were joking, but the poison pill is practically infallible. The fact that they didn’t get Austin means that the Jets chose to balk at the price, not that they wanted him but couldn’t get him. If they made the offer, Austin would be a lock, because there’s no way the Cowboys could risk matching the offer when they would have to pay the whole value of the contract to Austin even if he got hurt (again) or never lived up to expectations.
If this originally had a Justin McCareins feel about it, it now reminds me of the Jeb Putzier situation. That was another time when a guy who hadn’t done much was almost picked up based on his potential and then the Broncos matched. In the end, the Jets were lucky in that Putz did virtually nothing in the NFL since that time, although when they turned to plan B (Doug Jolley) I don’t have to tell you how that went. Let’s just hope the Jets have a better Plan B lined up this time.
Ultimately, I was expecting them to make an offer on Thursday and for the headlines the next day to read “Austin 4/16 says ‘I just wrecked your draft’”. I was not looking forward to having to call him Kilometers Austin as well (because I live in Europe). Ummm, and something about Austin Powers too.
(Glad that’s out of my system).
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Torry holt time now, I believe the jets will get into the mix if his price is reasonable
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I know everyone is “thrilled” this will not happen but we had no WR’s guys…. Even if we get a 1st round WR there is a great chance he will not contribute much in year 1. We need a guy with some experience to line up oppisite Cotch. Clowney and Stuckey are not the answers right now.
I think guys like R Curry, J Porter,
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Hank Baskett, DJ Hackett, Drew Bennet are still available. They will be very cheap and can give us some experience on the outside.
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will says:
I like for the Jets to have maximum flexibility come draft day. I think D-line depth and RB are more important for the long term health of the Jets than a WR, and I’d like to see them draft these positions in the first two rounds.
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The closer we get to the draft the more I believe we are going to trade down to get extra picks so I hope freeman is available at 17 that will increase our chances, trading out of the 1st rd will save us a lot of cap space so what ever needs we don’t adressed we will still have plenty of cap space left to pick up veterans that are going to get cut from their respected clubs
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Bent :
Isn’t “practically infallible” like being…. “almost pregnan”t. Every trade, draft, FA or UFA signing hinges on the value you place on that player? By using the term “poison pill” it is implied that there is a magic clause that will give an unfair advantage ( “magic power”) over your opponent every time you want to use it. Value is always in the eye of the beholder. To say that outbiding your opponent was something invented by Tannenbaum is absurd. By you saying that….” The fact that they didn’t get Austin means that the Jets chose to balk at the price, not that they wanted him but couldn’t get him” Isn’t the word ” BALK ” the operative word here ? Doesn’t that prove exactly my point?
On a separate note, Pete57 and I have agreed that Bassett would be perfect to decide the winner of our QB competition argument. Has Bessett agreed?
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vinnywasthebest says:
We need to examine FA options right now. Torry Holt would be a great option for a two, three year contract. MAYBE Curry, but leave Jerry Porter alone, he is a disaster(worth a gamble is cheap enough). But, without a clear cut no. 1 receiver, :
-How will our QB develop? who will he have confidence to throw to? especially a fade to the corner of the end zone?
- How will we be able to keep opposing defenses out of the box for a run-oriented offense?
-How will we stretch the field? cotchery? please…
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We have been on the same page here Hoz….trade down and get extra picks. The talent is the same from 16 – 32 in this draft
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mole57 says:
Hank, From what you’re writing, I don’t think your concept of a “poison pill” is the same as ours. For these discussions, they are for signing restricted free agents and placing a clause in the contracts that would make it impossible (or incredibly imprudent) for the other team to match. An example (for Austin) would be placing a clause in the contract that says if he plays more than 5 games a year in Texas, his entire contract will be guaranteed. This clause wouldn’t trigger if he plays on the Jets, but would if he played for the Cowboys. Hope that clears things up a bit.
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mole57:
I understand perfectly what the concept of a ” poison pill ” is. Please give me a little bit more credit than that.
I also understand your example, but what is there to prevent the Jets from guaranteeing Miles contract from the get go, if they wanted to. Remember that ALL contracts must be REASONABLE and ATTAINABLE to be legal and binding, so I don’t see where this MGIC Tannenbaum invented is. This suck-up gets more credit for everything that he trully deserves. The proof will be in the puddin. He failed with Farve/Pennington he over paid for half of the FA last year, he got lucky on Moore and contrary to veryone’s opinion on this blog, the jury on Mangini is still out. He was lucky to have Mangini for the draft and he’s lucky (I think) to have Rex this year. Like I said, the acid test is yet to come. I’m betting against this guy. He is a phony, just like the owner. -
mole/57/Bent:
As far as clauses in a contract goe, IF ANYTHING, the advantage always goes to the person with the RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL (AKA Restricted Free Agency)
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Hank,
Exactly. That’s why the poison pill is important: so the people with right of first refusal no longer have the advantage. -
mole57:
See, this is where the ” tilting ” part of the story comes in. That advantge is not TAKEN AWAY. In this country, you can not take anything away that it’s legally yours. It was simply NOT EXERCISED. Hutch makes it sound like Tannenbaum fathered this idea and he’s considered a WIZ for it. And that is flat out wrong. And to make Hutch doubly wrong, it was Parcells that originated and approved the trade. He gives no mention of that whatsoever.
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mole57:
See, this is where the ” tilting ” part of the story comes in. That advantge is not TAKEN AWAY. In this country, you can not take anything away that it’s legally yours. It was simply NOT EXERCISED. Hutch makes it sound like Tannenbaum fathered this idea and he’s considered a WIZ for it. And that is flat out wrong. And to make Hutch doubly wrong, it was Parcells that originated knew what it would take and approved the trade. Hutch gives no mention of that whatsoever in order to credit Tannenbaum
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mole57:
Sorry for the double post, it was not my intent.
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Bent says:
“I also understand your example, but what is there to prevent the Jets from guaranteeing Miles contract from the get go, if they wanted to. ”
That would be an enormous financial risk. The beauty of the poison pill is that the Jets don’t have to do that to get Austin, but the Cowboys do have to do that if they want to keep him. For Dallas, there is no way around this. And Tannenbaum did come up with the idea.
But your central argument is correct…Mike shouldn’t get credit for being a brilliant football mind because he found a legal loophole. However, I don’t think either myself or Mole would dispute that.
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What Bent said.
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Le'Sean Roberts says:
It’s just terribly amazing to see that people are sold on Austin because he’s hyped by Jones. We’re talking about a receiver with virtually no credentials. Just for the record, what has really worked out well in Dallas besides Parcells, his drafts and Romo…..nothing!nothing!….you can’t anything. Them Cowboys are just another annual Titanic. Please!…Miles Austin…hahaha. You all have lost it. I understand you guys are invigorated by change…just don’t get drugged out/OD on it.
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Green dream says:
So now we get Britt in the 2nd? Personally, I hope we can trade down, pick up another 3rd or 4th rd draft pick. We need a WR,DE, NT ( to groom because it takes 2 years for a NT to understand the pro game), OG or OT ( maybe both, DO you really trust Wayne Hunter if Fergie goes down?) and a Blocking TE.
My draft: TysonJackson 1st, Britt 2nd, Duke Robinson 3rd maybe a rb in the 4th or a big fat NT from some out of the way spot because Pouha is a goner and green is a one year fix.
My alternate draft is maclin 1st, gilbert 2nd, duke Robinson 3rd or Ron Brace
Austin smacks too much of McCa…….. OMG I can’t say his name.
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Talk about being in the minority, I want to revive the Austin deal but at a different price. If Jerry wants to get this done he needs to kick in a fourth round pick (101)
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Bent says:
JetOrange – I don’t understand your logic. I thought the deal was that Jerry wanted to retain Austin, but might not be able to due to Dallas’ cap constraints (and the use of a poison pill clause). Why would he now accept less than he would have got under that scenario? Unless I missed something, the Cowboys weren’t interested in getting a 2nd round pick, it was just what they would have to have settled for had Austin been poached (as he still could be by any NFL team).
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Bent:
Question: How come Tannenbaum did NOT use the ” poison ” pill on the Broncos for Cutler? A 1st and a 3rd is the same compensation we gave for Martin and Cutler supposedly having a better upside than Martin did then?
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Bent says:
Hank – there are several reasons, but the main one is that the poison pill does not work in a normal trade scenario, only where there is a restricted free agent and a team makes an offer that the other team can match (although the poison pill element might make it impossible to do so).
Two different situations – the Broncos could command whatever price they wanted for Cutler and always had right of first refusal because he is under contract. A restricted free agent is not under contract, so the other team will have the right to match an offer but that’s all.
The draft pick compensation is fixed for a restricted free agent, whereas it is negotiable for a player under contract that is being traded.
Similarly, a poison pill would not work for an unrestricted free agent, because any team doesn’t have to match your offer, they can draw one up however they choose.
The poison pill in this context only works in certain circumstances. You can also include a poison pill in a trade (recent example – don’t trade Favre to the NFC North or you forfeit draft picks), but that’s something different and I don’t think Tannenbaum was the originator of such practice.
If you need further clarification, let me know and I’ll get back to you later.
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Bent:
Thanks, but you don’t need to clarify it any further. Actually you did a very good job.
However………..I must disagree in your analogy of the Farve trade. The clause by GB “not to trade ” farve to the NFC North was simply a demand, not a “poison pill “. It was a stipulation, a condition that must be met by the aggreeing party. Please don’t give these writers any ideas about Tannenbaum possibly being the originator of a standard contractual clause or conditions, ie. ["but that’s something different and I don’t think Tannenbaum was the originator of such practice"]. He already gets credit for everyhting good and Mangini slammed for everythig bad.
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Bent says:
Hank, yes I agree. I just mentioned it because it was the media that called that clause a poison pill too, so I wanted to make sure you didn’t confuse the two.
Our esteemed genius of a cap wizard (now I’m just being sarcastic) cannot take credit for that one and the media would be wrong to suggest that.
thank god!