Comments on: News: Clowney-Smith WR Battle Sounds like Clemens-Ratliff II http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:06:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: News: Clowney-Smith WR Battle Sounds like Clemens-Ratliff II | JetsVine http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154752 News: Clowney-Smith WR Battle Sounds like Clemens-Ratliff II | JetsVine Fri, 01 May 2009 14:49:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154752 [...] thejetsblog.com. Please read the complete article and let us know what you think [...] [...] thejetsblog.com. Please read the complete article and let us know what you think [...]

]]> By: NickyLibs http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154718 NickyLibs Fri, 01 May 2009 12:47:02 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154718 Guys, the game plan is to RUN the ball more this year. If Cothery has 6-8 catches a game, Keller has 4 or 5, and Leon has 4 or 5. Than what is the big deal if we have Clowney getting a few here and there and Brad Smith doing the same. I mean, the most we need to get out of Stuckey/Clowney/Smith combined is 6-8 catches a game. Lets be happy, we drafted a solid RB like Shoon Greene, and continue to work on our defensive schemes. Guys, the game plan is to RUN the ball more this year. If Cothery has 6-8 catches a game, Keller has 4 or 5, and Leon has 4 or 5. Than what is the big deal if we have Clowney getting a few here and there and Brad Smith doing the same. I mean, the most we need to get out of Stuckey/Clowney/Smith combined is 6-8 catches a game. Lets be happy, we drafted a solid RB like Shoon Greene, and continue to work on our defensive schemes.

]]> By: jetsfaninmiami http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154668 jetsfaninmiami Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:36:57 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154668 If there is no trade I would like to see.......1-cotch, 2-clowney, 3-stucky. I wouldnt mind seeing smith split time with stucky but overall stucky is a better slot WR. Our in-house WRs have alot of potential and I am really happy to see that the jets realize this instead of making a trade before they even evaluate the WRs we already have. If the end of June comes and the coaches do not like what they see then I trust them to make a trade. I like this new logical approach to the jets off season as opposed to the irrational thought of prior years!!! If there is no trade I would like to see…….1-cotch, 2-clowney, 3-stucky. I wouldnt mind seeing smith split time with stucky but overall stucky is a better slot WR. Our in-house WRs have alot of potential and I am really happy to see that the jets realize this instead of making a trade before they even evaluate the WRs we already have. If the end of June comes and the coaches do not like what they see then I trust them to make a trade. I like this new logical approach to the jets off season as opposed to the irrational thought of prior years!!!

]]> By: rick http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154654 rick Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:46:38 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154654 brad smith hasnt made a big impact, idk about his status but he cant be a starting WR... cotchery, clowney, stuckey in the slot sounds OK but not enought to win games through the air. this WR dillemma revolves around two things a) smith or clowney stepping up at camp; clowney will, smith wont b) jones' contract situation clowney outperforms smith, we go forward with clowney as #2, stuckey in the slot, smith and possibly jones are expendable and enough trade bait... its gonna b a long wait till the june camp though brad smith hasnt made a big impact, idk about his status but he cant be a starting WR… cotchery, clowney, stuckey in the slot sounds OK but not enought to win games through the air. this WR dillemma revolves around two things a) smith or clowney stepping up at camp; clowney will, smith wont b) jones’ contract situation clowney outperforms smith, we go forward with clowney as #2, stuckey in the slot, smith and possibly jones are expendable and enough trade bait… its gonna b a long wait till the june camp though

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154636 Bent Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:25:33 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154636 MattyMurph: The Jets have been allocated approximately $3.4m to sign their picks. It should be possible to get Sanchez to sign for a big money deal with a cap number of about $3m (my estimate was 6 years, 67m, with guaranteed money of 24.5m). They would probably achieve this by having about half the guaranteed money paid as option or roster bonuses in 2010 or later years. Greene and Slauson should fit into the remaining part of the rookie cap. According to the figures floating around at this time, this leaves cap room of $9m, which sounds good, but bear in mind that Jason from nyjetscap.com has identified potential incentives that could accumulate during the year of $5m (including $3.6m to Gholston alone), so we anticipate the Jets will have to set that money aside. The remaining $4m (or thereabouts) would appear to be available to sign players, although they would probably like to have some left over for in-season flexilbility. That number could rise (or fall) though, if any more veterans are released or traded. Also, they may be planning to advance money or bring forward guarantees for existing players. $4m, if that's what's available, doesn't appear to be enough to sign Chad Johnson based on his current salary. It doesn't appear to have been enough to sign Owens or Holt either. Boldin or Braylon would require a new (big) contract to be drawn up, which theoretically could be backloaded I suppose, but I don't get a realistic sense of how desperate they are to add a WR. If they are really confident of an uncapped 2010, maybe they will be prepared to make that committment. I think the Pats have (or had...I don't know if that deal is dead now) a similar dilemma with Peppers. MattyMurph: The Jets have been allocated approximately $3.4m to sign their picks. It should be possible to get Sanchez to sign for a big money deal with a cap number of about $3m (my estimate was 6 years, 67m, with guaranteed money of 24.5m). They would probably achieve this by having about half the guaranteed money paid as option or roster bonuses in 2010 or later years. Greene and Slauson should fit into the remaining part of the rookie cap.

According to the figures floating around at this time, this leaves cap room of $9m, which sounds good, but bear in mind that Jason from nyjetscap.com has identified potential incentives that could accumulate during the year of $5m (including $3.6m to Gholston alone), so we anticipate the Jets will have to set that money aside.

The remaining $4m (or thereabouts) would appear to be available to sign players, although they would probably like to have some left over for in-season flexilbility. That number could rise (or fall) though, if any more veterans are released or traded. Also, they may be planning to advance money or bring forward guarantees for existing players.

$4m, if that’s what’s available, doesn’t appear to be enough to sign Chad Johnson based on his current salary. It doesn’t appear to have been enough to sign Owens or Holt either. Boldin or Braylon would require a new (big) contract to be drawn up, which theoretically could be backloaded I suppose, but I don’t get a realistic sense of how desperate they are to add a WR.

If they are really confident of an uncapped 2010, maybe they will be prepared to make that committment. I think the Pats have (or had…I don’t know if that deal is dead now) a similar dilemma with Peppers.

]]> By: frustratedjetfan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154635 frustratedjetfan Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:15:28 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154635 We do need someone to split time at nose tackle or Kris will fade at year's end. However, worst case, I believe that Rex will be true to form and devise plays with different combos that will provide a breather. I do not agree that we have plenty of weapons on offense (and will be okay) just because we're dedicated to the running game. First of all, baring an occasional breakaway by Leon it takes many run attempts vs. 8 in the box and many first downs to march the length of the field and score. Without being able to spread the field, we'll get stuffed by the better D-lines. Secondly, having a rookie QB always makes "cheating" to stuff the run even worse. NE. Buffalo and even Miami will jam our receivers on the line and dare the rookie QB to beat them. How many times did Farve get sacked or intercepted last year with the same offensive line, with TJ leading the league in rushing and with our same receivers PLUS Coles? And now we lost Coles who was our #1. Bottom line is this article is right-on. The Jets know we need help and will either pick up a veteran FA or trade for an impact WR. We do need someone to split time at nose tackle or Kris will fade at year’s end. However, worst case, I believe that Rex will be true to form and devise plays with different combos that will provide a breather.

I do not agree that we have plenty of weapons on offense (and will be okay) just because we’re dedicated to the running game. First of all, baring an occasional breakaway by Leon it takes many run attempts vs. 8 in the box and many first downs to march the length of the field and score. Without being able to spread the field, we’ll get stuffed by the better D-lines. Secondly, having a rookie QB always makes “cheating” to stuff the run even worse. NE. Buffalo and even Miami will jam our receivers on the line and dare the rookie QB to beat them.

How many times did Farve get sacked or intercepted last year with the same offensive line, with TJ leading the league in rushing and with our same receivers PLUS Coles? And now we lost Coles who was our #1.

Bottom line is this article is right-on. The Jets know we need help and will either pick up a veteran FA or trade for an impact WR.

]]> By: al http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154622 al Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:25:28 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154622 we have plenty of weopons in the passing game to score enough to win games, especially with the new power running game. Also we going to revert back to multiple motion & pre snap hurry up offense that Farve could not run last year. What we should be concern about is if Kris Jenkins gets hurt, who is going to replace him? we have plenty of weopons in the passing game to score enough to win games, especially with the new power running game. Also we going to revert back to multiple motion & pre snap hurry up offense that Farve could not run last year.

What we should be concern about is if Kris Jenkins gets hurt, who is going to replace him?

]]> By: SB http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154612 SB Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:02:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154612 uhhh, I guess all these comments (or most) are from the same folks who were bashing the Sanchez deal and eager to head into the season with Clemens and Ratliff. David Clowney has one career reception. One. As in, one. Brad Smith? Were we watching different games? Yes, he has talent. Yes, we should look to get him the ball more. No, he hasn't given any indication he is an average receiver, let alone a #2 or #3 starter who will consistently contribute. He looked completely lost at the position last year. Granted, we'll see what's happened in a year, but you can't go into the season with this WR scenario no matter how much they've improved or how much ground and pound awaits. uhhh, I guess all these comments (or most) are from the same folks who were bashing the Sanchez deal and eager to head into the season with Clemens and Ratliff. David Clowney has one career reception. One. As in, one. Brad Smith? Were we watching different games? Yes, he has talent. Yes, we should look to get him the ball more. No, he hasn’t given any indication he is an average receiver, let alone a #2 or #3 starter who will consistently contribute. He looked completely lost at the position last year. Granted, we’ll see what’s happened in a year, but you can’t go into the season with this WR scenario no matter how much they’ve improved or how much ground and pound awaits.

]]> By: Joe B. http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154590 Joe B. Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:18:39 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154590 It's nice to know that there's at least a plan with the WRs and we're not putting everything into either Clowney or Smith becoming super awesome. It’s nice to know that there’s at least a plan with the WRs and we’re not putting everything into either Clowney or Smith becoming super awesome.

]]> By: Brad http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/04/30/news-clowney-smith-wr-battle-sounds-like-clemens-ratliff-ii/#comment-154580 Brad Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:56:42 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=12153#comment-154580 ocho cinco for TJ and we give cinci 2-3rd pick! ocho cinco for TJ and we give cinci 2-3rd pick!

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