Comments on: Inside Out: Marques Douglas http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:11:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eddie DiGio http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159655 Eddie DiGio Thu, 28 May 2009 23:18:19 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159655 Marques Douglas and Kenyon Coleman are the exact same player. They are 3-4 D ends who play on run downs. Pretty much would be second rate DT's in a 4-3 Tampa 2 type D. With the development of TiVo and NFL Sunday Ticket I watch a TON of football. I can assure any Jet fan who is worried about losing Kenyon Coleman that a suitable replacement has been found. Coleman was a guy Mangini wanted brought in from Dallas and huge contract kept him on the field more than his play warranted. If the Ravens could play the kind of D they played for the past few years with Douglas at D end, I m sure Rex knows just how to use him. I really dont think we will be saying "Kenyon Coleman would have made that play" all too much this coming season Marques Douglas and Kenyon Coleman are the exact same player. They are 3-4 D ends who play on run downs. Pretty much would be second rate DT’s in a 4-3 Tampa 2 type D. With the development of TiVo and NFL Sunday Ticket I watch a TON of football. I can assure any Jet fan who is worried about losing Kenyon Coleman that a suitable replacement has been found. Coleman was a guy Mangini wanted brought in from Dallas and huge contract kept him on the field more than his play warranted. If the Ravens could play the kind of D they played for the past few years with Douglas at D end, I m sure Rex knows just how to use him. I really dont think we will be saying “Kenyon Coleman would have made that play” all too much this coming season

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159642 SackDance99 Thu, 28 May 2009 21:35:50 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159642 Canadian Bacon, I'm not picking on you about the Pats, but it always seems to me that people assume certain things about the Pats and, when you actually look at the stats, then you realize the hype is not true. The Pats were atrocious against the pass last season. Football Outsiders ranked their pass defense 27th of the 32 NFL teams. Plus, their front 7 is aging (Seymour never seems to play a full season and how much longer can Warren and Wilfork escape the injury bug?) and will be weaker pass rushing (Vrabel, IMO, was over-rated as a pass rusher, but whose his replacement?). Bottom line is that the Pats have an elite, overpowering offense, but a very questionable defense that has not been able to make up for the loss of Assante Samuel and Rodney Harrison. We may want more depth on the Jets, but the Jets likely have the AFC East's best defense (as they did last season), although that doesn't mean much if the offense doesn't score. Canadian Bacon,

I’m not picking on you about the Pats, but it always seems to me that people assume certain things about the Pats and, when you actually look at the stats, then you realize the hype is not true. The Pats were atrocious against the pass last season. Football Outsiders ranked their pass defense 27th of the 32 NFL teams. Plus, their front 7 is aging (Seymour never seems to play a full season and how much longer can Warren and Wilfork escape the injury bug?) and will be weaker pass rushing (Vrabel, IMO, was over-rated as a pass rusher, but whose his replacement?). Bottom line is that the Pats have an elite, overpowering offense, but a very questionable defense that has not been able to make up for the loss of Assante Samuel and Rodney Harrison. We may want more depth on the Jets, but the Jets likely have the AFC East’s best defense (as they did last season), although that doesn’t mean much if the offense doesn’t score.

]]> By: JesusRevis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159629 JesusRevis Thu, 28 May 2009 20:22:25 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159629 Coleman was only considered "good against the run" whe Jenkins entered the lineup. He made absolutely no impact on the defense. Coleman was only considered “good against the run” whe Jenkins entered the lineup. He made absolutely no impact on the defense.

]]> By: Vinny Interceptaverde http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159628 Vinny Interceptaverde Thu, 28 May 2009 19:55:15 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159628 Coleman was a decent player. He had no pass rush ability whatsoever, but he was very good against the run. That isn't worth the money the Jets were paying him, but the question is "who replaces him?" I'm not so sure the Jets have an answer. Maybe Devito can do that, but has mentioned above he is unproven. Coleman was a decent player. He had no pass rush ability whatsoever, but he was very good against the run. That isn’t worth the money the Jets were paying him, but the question is “who replaces him?” I’m not so sure the Jets have an answer. Maybe Devito can do that, but has mentioned above he is unproven.

]]> By: JesusRevis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159621 JesusRevis Thu, 28 May 2009 18:55:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159621 ridinmywave, I shouldn't have said "better than". All I meant was based on what i've seen from Coleman along with what I know about Douglas, it seems they are very similar players and the defense shouldnt skip a beat from the loss of Coleman. Also, Douglas should know the defense pretty well which should give him an edge. I watched Coleman do absolutely nothing for the past few seasons, I cant imagine Douglas doing any less. ridinmywave,

I shouldn’t have said “better than”. All I meant was based on what i’ve seen from Coleman along with what I know about Douglas, it seems they are very similar players and the defense shouldnt skip a beat from the loss of Coleman. Also, Douglas should know the defense pretty well which should give him an edge. I watched Coleman do absolutely nothing for the past few seasons, I cant imagine Douglas doing any less.

]]> By: ridinmywave http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159619 ridinmywave Thu, 28 May 2009 18:50:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159619 Revis, I am no kenyon coleman fan, but how in the hell is douglas possibly an upgrade from coleman? Revis,

I am no kenyon coleman fan, but how in the hell is douglas possibly an upgrade from coleman?

]]> By: JesusRevis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159610 JesusRevis Thu, 28 May 2009 18:02:48 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159610 Cabras, "What position on this team has depth? Tannenbaum program = low # of draft picks, high # free agents, makes it hard to have depth." We have great depth at RB, LB, and in the secondary. Douglas is just as good if not betterthan Kenyon Coleman, so we are exactly where we were last year as far as the defensive line. Cabras,

“What position on this team has depth? Tannenbaum program = low # of draft picks, high # free agents, makes it hard to have depth.”

We have great depth at RB, LB, and in the secondary.

Douglas is just as good if not betterthan Kenyon Coleman, so we are exactly where we were last year as far as the defensive line.

]]> By: Canadian Bacon http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159607 Canadian Bacon Thu, 28 May 2009 17:57:46 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159607 Sankdance 99 Every year the Pats seem thin at DB and every year they lose 1 or 2 of there starting DB's to make that position every more vulnerble. And yet every year they don't get burnt like toast. Reason being is the pressure the front 3 put on. They have by far the best 3-4 DL. Their LB's are good too but you win the game in the trenches on both sides of the ball Sankdance 99

Every year the Pats seem thin at DB and every year they lose 1 or 2 of there starting DB’s to make that position every more vulnerble. And yet every year they don’t get burnt like toast. Reason being is the pressure the front 3 put on. They have by far the best 3-4 DL. Their LB’s are good too but you win the game in the trenches on both sides of the ball

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159605 Bent Thu, 28 May 2009 17:41:49 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159605 That's not how I saw it. Coleman (who led all NFL defensive linemen in tackles in 2007, don't forget) took on a different role whereby he took on blockers, enabling others to make stops. His statistical productivity was way down, but he was as much a part of the Jets success against the run in the first half of last season as anyone. Douglas is capable of playing the same role though, so he'll hopefully be able to come in and do a solid job, although I doubt he'll get many plaudits for it. I am not yet convinced Howard Green can make this team. That’s not how I saw it. Coleman (who led all NFL defensive linemen in tackles in 2007, don’t forget) took on a different role whereby he took on blockers, enabling others to make stops. His statistical productivity was way down, but he was as much a part of the Jets success against the run in the first half of last season as anyone.

Douglas is capable of playing the same role though, so he’ll hopefully be able to come in and do a solid job, although I doubt he’ll get many plaudits for it.

I am not yet convinced Howard Green can make this team.

]]> By: GlockNSoul http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159603 GlockNSoul Thu, 28 May 2009 17:36:51 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/05/28/inside-out-marques-douglas/#comment-159603 Coleman was great lat year, if your definition of "great" is not appearing in any frame that also included the ball. Coleman was great lat year, if your definition of “great” is not appearing in any frame that also included the ball.

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