Daily Links: Jets Want to Give Their Dreams a Chance
- Not talking any X’s and O’s, Gary Myers reports on the Jets’ hopes to smack their logo on New Jersey lottery tickets.
- Bob Glauber discusses Jones’ contract and touches on the precedent the Jets set when they guaranteed Coles final two years.
- The Fish are looking for that No. 1 receiver on their roster, too.
- A very obscure bit of information here, but are the Jets looking at an Arkansas wide receiver from Arena Football’s minor league? Name is Rod Harper, he’s 6’1″, 205 pounds, played at Murray State and was a UDFA for the Packers in 2008. I couldn’t find less about him.
5 Responses to Daily Links: Jets Want to Give Their Dreams a Chance
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Angel Navedo says:
Harlan, I’m completely with you. Truthfully, I don’t think Jones needs an extension or a new contract. If he fears for his job security in 2010, then oh well. That’s why he requested a frontloaded contract to begin with.
His argument is predicated on his performance in 2008 as if his improvement didn’t coincide with the millions of dollars the Jets spent on getting Faneca and Woody. Jones doesn’t have the leverage here.
And if we want to be a little crazy, a lot of it had to do with defenses respecting Favre’s arm at first. When they learned he lost his accuracy, they no longer feared any deep threats and stacked the box on Jones.
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hank/naples says:
I really think B.Glauber has lost part if not all his mind.
What does he mean mean whae he says ” I realize the Jets don’t want to set a precedent here, and I realize that one of the reasons they released Laveranues Coles from his contract was because of that.”
Tannenbaum HAD guaranteed the last two years of his contract before they released him.Another mistake by the great one. See link. -
Bent says: That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me either. The only reason they released Coles was because Coles let them by walking away from the guaranteed money.
There is a comparison to be made, I guess, because TJ appears to be seeking a similar guarantee, but it isn’t expressed very clearly.
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miketaliaferro says:
Guys, this is exactly what I was saying the other day. The precedent is, in fact, LC. Tanny’s earlier blunders actually turn out to be the way out of this morass, as Glauber points out.
LC made a stink. At first for a new contract or an extension but, as in Basic Negotiating 101, “settled” for what he most likely really wanted — a guarantee for what was ALREADY LEFT IN HIS CONTRACT, 2 yr./$11 mill.
(NOTE: It’s the ol’ MTA ploy. They want a $.25 fare hike, so they announce a $.50 to $1.00 fare hike coming. We run around with our hair on fire, yowling, “How can this be?! This is terrible!” Finally, the MTA happily takes the $.25 they wanted in the first place, and we’re silly enough to think we got a bargain. They’ve been doing this since the fare was $.30.)
Of course, Tanny had no Plan B — LC was popular in the clubhouse and in the fan base, and the Jets simply had no WR ready to replace him, even though he was starting to trail off. If anyone was in the wings, LC was gonzo. LC had to have known this, so wouldn’t back down or, more importantly, shut up, so Tanny said, “OK. We don’t want another Kendall, so we’ll guarantee the frickin’ money. But, geeesh, just shut up about it.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/03/29/2008-03-29_jets_guarantee_laveranues_coles_11m.htmlThe next year, LC encouraged the Jets to release him from his contract, since he did, in fact, want more money and knew the Jets weren’t going to give it to him. LC knew the Jets FO would chew their respective legs off to get out of paying that last year they owed him under the guarantee they made the year before. So they were more than happy to save that last $6 mill. LC, it turns out, was right. Sure enough, some team was willing to pay him more than he would have made with the Jets (Cincy, @ $7 mill.)
To my understanding, that is really all Jones is pushing for, and is how he’s going about it — asking for the extension, but would be happy with any or all of the remainder of what the Jets promised him guaranteed. With the added push that he’s coming off two good years (incl. AFC rushing title), whereas LC was in eclipse.
This year, having learned his lesson with Kendall and LC, Tanny went out and found a viable (though untested) Plan B in Greene.
Yes, that cut deeply into TJ’s negotiating position. But, as with Kendall and LC, drafting Greene doesn’t help repair the PR hit the FO takes within the clubhouse — is there ANY Jet today who trusts Tanny? At all? I would hope not. You’d hope that you have a roster of smart players, and smart players could not have let this go by unnoticed. How is Mangold or Brick going to approach THEIR contract renewals? After the last three years, Tanny has made the Jets a contractual free-fire zone. Forget the agents, they’re useless. I’d want the best, shrewdest lawyers I could afford to sit a the table with Tanny to make sure I was taken care of, contractually.
As Glauber notes, moving the $3 mill bonus into this year seems a thoroughly appropriate compromise. You can make some small case for Tanny’s handling of LC, but please explain to me — how do you justify how they’ve treated The AFC Rushing Champ to the players who busted their asses to get him that crown? You simply can’t.
Harlan & Angel, why do you continue to proclaim yourselves the staunch guardians of Woody’s (oh so hefty, inherited) wallet.
That full 4 yr./$20 million TJ contract is ALREADY FACTORED INTO THE Jets working capital budget. If it’s not, you then fire the entire FO for incompetence.
But in this one-sided NFL world, their jobs are expressly to keep from paying out any more of the contracts they’ve signed than they can possibly get away with.
You keep acting like TJ is seeking something extra, something to which he is not entitled. As far as anything I can see here, he’s only asking for an acknowledgment that he’ll actually get what the Jets promised was coming his way — when they were so hot to get him from Chicago. Period.
Ranting and venom aimed at TJ will not change this, and honestly makes no sense whatsoever. It makes folks sound like interns working in Tanny’s office.
I am sick and tired of Mediaots who want to throw Woody’s money away on players who have already been well reimbursed, signed a contract knowing the situation (and whose agent did too).
The fact that throwing money at one player limits what you can pay another is one problem. The fact that it creates a one way contract (where the owner is obligated to pay what is on the contract or let the player become a FA plus pay any guaranteed money), while if the player does well he has no obligation to play for what he agreed to play for is another problem. And, the fact that it creates a precedent is an even worse problem.
It makes even less sense in TJ’s case because he at his age, with the drafting of Shonn (and all the draft picks we invested in him), and the typical production AND VALUE of older backs, he is not worth an longer term investment.
What annoys me is that the mediaots are needlessly creating controversy with this type of BS and their tripe justifies players and agents using this strategy to try to get more money.
harlan