Do not change the subject. My argument was about Matt Cassel and that he is more ready than Brady is to win a championship. He doesn’t have a “safety” blanket at tight end with Gonzales gone but he can rely on Bowe, Webb, Darling, and Bradley all who hurt the jets last season to pick up where he left off. He has Larry Johnson and Jaamal Charles as a one two punch. I said their o-line mixed experience (Brian Waters, Mike Goff, and Damion McIntosh as the older linemen. Brandon Albert, Wade Smith (ex-Jet), and Rudy Niswanger as the younger linemen.) Contrary to what you think they are not thin at the line. They have a similar blend of talent and experience that the Jets have just not overpaid free agents (Woody and Faneca). If you think that Cassel cannot be as effective with his receiving corps now as he was in new england you are mistaken. He can benefit from Bradley and Darling similar to what he had with Gaffney, Kelly Washington, and Kevin Faulk. They are just as reliable as those players.

Look at your posts,

fonzie said:

“SackDance99 sorry man you can pull all your stats but the Jets can only win against the pats is if we have an ultra-aggressive gameplan.”

I wasn’t saying anything about the Jets’ gameplan, but implicit in my comment was the idea that the Jets should pressure the Pats up the middle because their interior OL can’t handle Big Jenks. Interior blitzing is a very aggressive tactic. So, in context, your comment was, to say the least, puzzling.

Moreover, I know you have a man crush on Mangini. Yet, Mangini’s signature game plan (in Foxboro in 2006) wasn’t “ultra-aggressive.” His plan, which worked great, was to confuse Brady by dropping multiple players in coverage. Of course, that plan worked pre-Welker and Moss. As we saw in last season’s game in Foxboro, Mangini’s “passive” plan of dropping 8 men in coverage and not even having Jenks in nearly cost the Jets the game.

As for Cassell, I just don’t know how he’ll deal without Welker, the premier slot WR in the NFL, and Moss, a top 3 deep threat. I like Bowe, but KC’s OL and thin receiving corps without Gonzo, should cause Cassell to struggle. More ready than Brady to win a Super Bowl?!? Even if I didn’t think that Brady was a great QB, Brady’s weapons could make even a mediocre QB good-to-great. The Pats’ offense should be great, except if they get into obvious passing downs, that weak interior OL pass-blocking has to be a concern.

What’s the matter Sack? Did I confuse you by providing too much information? My point is clear.

I am saying that Cassel is PERSONALLY more ready than Tom Brady to win a championship right now. He has a good team (see above) behind him and with PIOLI they will make drastic improvements in the next couple of years.

I am not saying the Chiefs team is better than the patriots right now. I am not saying their going to win a championship right now but they, sure as heck are going to be as competitive as the patriots and jets.

Don’t worry about it, I was half kidding. I figured your view would be that Cassel was a good enough player to one day win and that while the Chiefs are not exactly a contender right now, perhaps they have the potential to become one.

Personally, I’m not all that impressed with Cassel, but then I wasn’t that impressed with Brady after his first season either. Cassel is at a disadvantage though compared to Brady, by joining an inferior franchise. I like Dwayne Bowe, but he’s no Randy Moss and the Chiefs don’t have safety valves the cailber of Welker, Faulk and the TEs.

“Hey Bent do you think the Chiefs can get by with smoke and mirrors like the Jets did in 2006 this year?”

It’s funny you should say that because I think that’s the ONLY way they can get by this year and 2006 is a perfect comparison because once again a new coach takes over a franchise that Herm took backwards.

“Bent would this team scare you now that Thigpen is third on the roster behind Cassel and Croyle? Thigpen almost beat the jets defense last year and almost outplayed FARVE.”

No, but they scare me more now that Herm is gone! As I said above, I don’t rate Cassel that highly and Thigpen was one of a string of guys the Jets struggled with that they had never faced before (like the Mets, who always struggle against pitchers they’ve never seen before, the Jets tended to fare better against teams they had a lot of film on, perhaps due to Mangini’s meticulous preparation).

I like some of their guys, but am not quite so prepared to list as many of them as key players. Jeff Webb, for example, caught just 5 passes last year – is he any more likely to be an impact player than Clowney? Jamaal Charles is fast, so always a threat to make a long run, but can’t stay on the field because he is so poor at pass protection. Hali is dangerous, but Thomas, Beisel and Vrabel are old.

Finally, Thigpen DID outplay Favre that day, who despite the comeback win was terrible!

I cited both a fact, the Pats OL sucked in pass protection (48 sacks), and specific game examples that I watched: Jenkins, Williams and Hampton dominated the interior of the Pats OL. I have no idea what your point was.

Pats fans, crow all you want. The Pats have been great, but if I’m right and the Pats interior OL pass blocking is weak, pray for Brady, because he’ll be beaten up. I’m not saying the Jets will take Brady out, but the Pats play some pretty good defenses (Jets, Baltimore,Tennessee, Miami) in the first 8 games. If he can’t be protected, then Brady could be limited.

OLBs Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Turk McBride, with veterans Mike Vrabel, Zack Thomas, and Monty Beisel are in the interior LB positions make up the LB corps.

I am not saying the Chiefs are going to win their division this year or even come close to the Patriots but what I am saying is that Cassel on this day is ready to win a championship more than Brady. He has more pressure on him to bring the Chiefs higher than Brady who just has to show up to camp to have all his weapons at his disposal. Cassel has more hunger and determination than Brady does surprising as that may sound he needs to believe in his team something I said to “rex” a long time ago.

Cassel right now is ready to win. Obviously his team is not a strong or experienced as the patriots which I didn’t explain myself clearly. His attitude and state is growing now that he has had a year under his belt and he has another dimension that Brady doesn’t have which is the ability to run on key plays. Brady is a traditional pocket passer but Cassel can hurt you with his legs just the same. He not a Vick but he doesn’t have to be one he just needs to know the playbook to beat you which is why he believed in Josh McDaniels last year. He had three years to learn the playbook and develop into a good quarterback with a good offensive line.

The Chiefs are building their team this year pretty much like the Jets did in 2006. Their o-line consists of young and old players. They have a similar virginia tackle like the jets had in Brandon Albert and some experience with Brian Waters and Damion McIntosh. They have a strong running game with Jaamal Charles (he gashed the jets on certain occasions last year when we played against them on long runs) and of course Larry Johnson who can be so unpredictable ( really bad versus good). Dwayne Bowe presents problems towards our secondary. Even though Revis contained him last year for some part he is dangerous when in single coverage just like Randy Moss. He may not be a Moss but he can be deadly in his own way. Jeff Webb is an interesting player in their recieving corps who will have his role increased with the departure of Tony Gonzales. Mark Bradley (scored a touchdown against the jets last year before halftime) and Devard Darling will have their role increased. So Cassel has a somewhat good team around him. The defense is loaded with talent at the ends with Tamba Hali (on third downs) and Tyson Jackson, and Glenn Dorsey (who will be making his most interesting position change DT to DE). Tank Tyler is in the middle holding the fort. Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Turk McBride, and veterans Mike Vrabel ( yes he can still play) and Zack Thomas are in the interior with Monty Beisel. The secondary looks almost the same as last year with Bernard Pollard and Jerrad Page at the safeties and Brandon Flowers (yes he intercepted FARVE’s pass last year for a touchdown late in the game a scary moment) and Brandon Carr. This is the first year the Chiefs have a 3-4 defense. Hey Bent do you think the Chiefs can get by with smoke and mirrors like the Jets did in 2006 this year? Special teams are up in the air with all their undrafted free agents. Bent would this team scare you now that Thigpen is third on the roster behind Cassel and Croyle? Thigpen almost beat the jets defense last year and almost outplayed FARVE.

The ineffectiveness of the Jets offense will mean the Jets D, which should be an above average D, will be on the field for 40 per game—leading to fatigue and possible injuries. Unlike the Patriots, which has always been a deep team, the Jets lack depth, really only being pretty good at RB and having a solid O-Line